Audi A3 8V Reverse Camera (High) DIY Retrofit guide!!

DJAlix said:
Lol no. This kit is garbage as it does not integrate with your vehicles systems. No better than a cheap 3rd party aliexpress kit.
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Wow, didn’t know that. Do you have the right kit then? If yes, please PM me
 
Amused said:
Wow, didn’t know that. Do you have the right kit then? If yes, please PM me
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There is no official kit available. Retrofitters such as myself will build a parts list and order as needed. You may be able to find suppliers of kits online however. Expect to pay approx twice the price of the kit you listed.
 
DJAlix said:
There is no official kit available. Retrofitters such as myself will build a parts list and order as needed. You may be able to find suppliers of kits online however. Expect to pay approx twice the price of the kit you listed.
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Wow, twice the price of the genuine kit seems pretty unreasonable for a set of sensors.

Would you be kind to share the parts list, and perhaps sell some of the parts if you have them?

Picking up used stuff on eBay and other websites seems like a cheaper way than going for somebody’s kit.
 
A friend of my installed the original Audi A3 FL camera yesterday (a very tidy install, everything by the book), however we can't get it to work, the camera image does not appear on reverse.

The funny thing is this: after setting 5F > Information Electronics / Adaptions / Vehicle function list BAP-VPS_0x0B to activated, the car loses communication with the camera control module and VCDS can't recognise it anymore. So in order to establish communication again, we had to revert the above command to not activated. Did this several times. We only get this fault code: 1543 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded.

Any ides here?
 

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DJAlix said:
Can we get a full auto scan for context please
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Well, I guess I should have made the full auto scan yesterday when I had the VCDS at hand.

I would need to organise a new meeting with my friend to get the auto scan.

I have some log files if that may help.
 
@DJAlix, please see the auto scan. Thanks.
 

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Amused said:
@DJAlix, please see the auto scan. Thanks.
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"65796 - Infotainment CAN in One-Wire Mode"

First things first I think you need to go over your wiring. Disconnect the reversing camera and restore your coding. Once all is back as it was test everything and make sure you have no errors. If all is ok then reconnect the camera but do not code your 19 - CAN Gateway, 10 or 5F, just check via the VCDS "select" screen if the module shows up. If yes then start your coding again.
 
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DJAlix said:
"65796 - Infotainment CAN in One-Wire Mode"

First things first I think you need to go over your wiring. Disconnect the reversing camera and restore your coding. Once all is back as it was test everything and make sure you have no errors. If all is ok then reconnect the camera but do not code your 19 - CAN Gateway, 10 or 5F, just check via the VCDS "select" screen if the module shows up. If yes then start your coding again.
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Wow, that was blazing fast ;)

“Restore your coding” - how do I do that? :)
 
DJAlix said:
:)

Manually change it back to what it was before you changed it...
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The main problem lies with the 6C long coding. I was ticking and unticking boxes following the guide, without really knowing what I was doing because I had no explanation in VCDS (probably because of the new module I guess). Do I need to undo the changes there as well?

Regarding the rest of the coding job I did, I just added 6C as per the guide and changed BAP-VPS_0x0B to activated. Should I undo this as well?
 
Amused said:
The main problem lies with the 6C long coding. I was ticking and unticking boxes following the guide, without really knowing what I was doing because I had no explanation in VCDS (probably because of the new module I guess). Do I need to undo the changes there as well?

Regarding the rest of the coding job I did, I just added 6C as per the guide and changed BAP-VPS_0x0B to activated. Should I undo this as well?
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You need to rewind a bit further than, you have a wiring issue as your Infotainment Network is only communicating on a single wire and it should be over two. You need to get the basic network sorted before you can then move forward.
 
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DJAlix said:
You need to rewind a bit further than, you have a wiring issue as your Infotainment Network is only communicating on a single wire and it should be over two. You need to get the basic network sorted before you can then move forward.
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Got it, thank you so much. Could the problem lie with mixing the wires and pins during the installation?
 
@DJAlix, checked the wiring and it appears the installation guide is wrong. We changed some wires and pins and VCDS recognized the module. We coded everything as per the instructions but there is still no camera image on the MMI. VCDS throws only one fault for 6C Camera - No basic settings. I don’t have auto scan files at the moment.

Please see the installation guide provided by the seller.

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Any ideas how to solve the “no basic settings” problem and get the camera to appear on screen?
 
Amused said:
@DJAlix, checked the wiring and it appears the installation guide is wrong. We changed some wires and pins and VCDS recognized the module. We coded everything as per the instructions but there is still no camera image on the MMI. VCDS throws only one fault for 6C Camera - No basic settings. I don’t have auto scan files at the moment.

Please see the installation guide provided by the seller.

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Any ideas how to solve the “no basic settings” problem and get the camera to appear on screen?
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Basic settings = calibration = don’t bother unless it really bugs you as testing has proved it’s not needed.

The guide is correct to the best of my knowledge, and going by the lack of complaints :)

Will have a look at your posted information once I get home.

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As long as your wiring is correct, change the msg bus to : Terminal 15

If a FL car, while your in 5F adaptations, search for “PDC” and activate that also.
 
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DJAlix said:
Basic settings = calibration = don’t bother unless it really bugs you as testing has proved it’s not needed.

The guide is correct to the best of my knowledge, and going by the lack of complaints :)

Will have a look at your posted information once I get home.

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As long as your wiring is correct, change the msg bus to : Terminal 15

If a FL car, while your in 5F adaptations, search for “PDC” and activate that also.
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PDC is activated, I double checked that.

Tried Terminal 15, but I don’t remember whether it was before or after correcting the wiring.

Any other ideas?
 
Amused said:
PDC is activated, I double checked that.

Tried Terminal 15, but I don’t remember whether it was before or after correcting the wiring.

Any other ideas?
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Autoscan time, and need to know how the related adaptation channels are set in 5F and 19. Hard to work out / piece together otherwise.

Edit: and can you provide a link to the “kit” you purchased from K-Electric.
 
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DJAlix said:
Autoscan time, and need to know how the related adaptation channels are set in 5F and 19. Hard to work out / piece together otherwise.

Edit: and can you provide a link to the “kit” you purchased from K-Electric.
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The kit was purchased from vwmodul.de, however they don’t have it on their website at the moment.

I received this installation/coding guide from them:

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They got the wiring wrong, because only when we changed the wires and pins combination (basically installed it differently, not according to the above picture guide, I think they got the wire colours wrong) did the camera module appear in VCDS and the “one wire” fault was gone.

Coding-wise, we did everything as per the guide in the first post:

19 > Can Gateway
i. Installation List
ii. Add 6c Back up cam
iii. Adaption
iv. Ensure following coded - (108)-Installation list; specified installations-Node_0x6C
6C > Back Up Cam
i. Long Coding
ii. Select bits in bytes that are applicable to your vehicle
5F > Information Electronics
i. Adaptions
ii. following MMI screen / display needed to be activated:
1. (21)-Vehicle function list BAP-VPS_0x0B - activated
2. (22)-Vehicle function list BAP-VPS_0x0B_msg_bus - Comfort data
bus (here we tried both Comfort data bus and Databus infotainment, but to no avail)
3. Confirmed display_PDC was set to active
10 > Park/Steer Assist
i. Long Coding
ii. Byte 2 > Bits 4-5 = 10 (RVC installed)
 
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Did some additional reading on the Internet. Some people who installed OEM cameras into their A6’s, Q5’s and A5’s had to do this:

MMI Head Unit, Address 5f - (this is how the RVC shows up on the MMI screen) - In VCDS, go into Coding, Long Coding Helper, select "Byte 7" and turn "Bit 1" on. Now the camera will show up on your screen.

Should I give it a try? Is this the long coding of the 6C module?
 
Amused said:
MMI Head Unit, Address 5f - (this is how the RVC shows up on the MMI screen) - In VCDS, go into Coding, Long Coding Helper, select "Byte 7" and turn "Bit 1" on. Now the camera will show up on your screen.

Should I give it a try? Is this the long coding of the 6C module?
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Well as it says its 5F which is the MMI, but this is talking about MMI3G within MLB platform cars. You have MMI4G with MQB.

Trying to fault find other peoples installations and codings can be very hard when you don't have all the information and cannot actually see whats been completed physically. You have the attention of a lot of people here who are willing to help, professionals like myself also. Please supply us with a VCDS Autoscan so we can work out:

1) if the connections are correct
2) if the firmware on the camera is correct
3) if the parameters of the camera are correct
4) if the needed coding is correct
5) if you have a faulty camera
6) if you have the correct camera even

On the face of it what you have done so far is correct. Just need to crack the last bit :)_
 
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Well as it says its 5F which is the MMI, but this is talking about MMI3G within MLB platform cars. You have MMI4G with MQB.

Trying to fault find other peoples installations and codings can be very hard when you don't have all the information and cannot actually see whats been completed physically. You have the attention of a lot of people here who are willing to help, professionals like myself also. Please supply us with a VCDS Autoscan so we can work out:

1) if the connections are correct
2) if the firmware on the camera is correct
3) if the parameters of the camera are correct
4) if the needed coding is correct
5) if you have a faulty camera
6) if you have the correct camera even

On the face of it what you have done so far is correct. Just need to crack the last bit :)_
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Thank you so much for the support. My friend who has the original VCDS software is on vacation now, I will need to find somebody else with the necessary tools to do the auto scan. If not, then I will have to wait for 2 weeks.

If I don’t sort this out, my final option is to return the camera as faulty and get a proper one. We will be in touch.
 
Amused said:
Thank you so much for the support. My friend who has the original VCDS software is on vacation now, I will need to find somebody else with the necessary tools to do the auto scan. If not, then I will have to wait for 2 weeks.

If I don’t sort this out, my final option is to return the camera as faulty and get a proper one. We will be in touch.
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Where abouts are you?
 
Amused said:
8V0827566B

I believe I asked about this part number and you gave me the go ahead ;)
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Indeed and these should be no problem as the number is compatible. So now we just need to see what’s good no on by way of a diagnostic scan
 
DJAlix said:
Indeed and these should be no problem as the number is compatible. So now we just need to see what’s good no on by way of a diagnostic scan
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Sure, I scheduled a VCDS session for Tuesday afternoon. Hopefully, things should be clearer after the auto scan.
 
DJAlix said:
I was asking what time, in GMT, so I can see if I can be available to give some assistance while you have VCDS.
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Oh, sorry, I misunderstood your question.

I will have confirmation of the exact timing on Tuesday, it depends on the guy who has VCDS. I will let you know at least 2 or 3 hours before the session, or as soon as I have confirmation. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into this.
 
@DJAlix, we scheduled the coding session for 17.00h local time which is 16.00h London time.

Will you be available?
 
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For those monitoring @Amused retrofit project, the following was completed via a remote session yesterday, London to Serbia:
  • Camera Unit works correctly
  • CAN wiring correct
  • Video wiring looks correct
  • Various coding and adaptations tested
After testing all we could, and ended the session, I completed further research and have found that the MMI unit within the vehicle is a very very basic model, MIB2 STD with no Nav support, which does not include the needed hardware on its mainboard to be able to handle video input.
 
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Hi knowledgeable folks of the forum. I wanted to do something nice for my mom so I recently bought a new oem reverse camera unit with all the necessary wires and modules for her A3 8V sportback.

We got everything installed but have really been struggling with the coding. The mmi screen pops up the odd occasion that reverse is selected, though not every time. But the screen is just black and shows no image.

I took some photos of the autoscan, apologies for the glare. My installers laptop is ancient so can't connect to his WiFi lol. Hoping someone can point me in the right direction.

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