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Tj 0785 said:
It will be fine the seal is below the broken bit just the clip might be a bit lose. You ain't having much luck with it recently are you
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Seems to be a daily feature of S3 ownership,the more reading,the worse it seems.How's the RSN-E going?

At least you'll know the exact GPS position of your S3.

Stuart B said:
Mine is still "okay" / (fun) to drive but considering no oil went in the catch can for a year and now 50cl in 2 months, after I ran it too low on oil. now it has too much positive crankcase pressure. same as you had, with dip stick puffing.
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You bought the wrong colour :yes:

You guys certainly know how to make me feel better,well just a bit.I'm dreading doing the VVT gaskets next as I'm liable to break something there,everything I touch seems to turn into skittles :blink:,also after fumbling about under the inlet manifold for a couple of hours my wrists look like I've been interrogated by the Trump establishment!

I did wonder about fashioning a jubilee clip around the housing but I might squash it further.
 
araldite? :)

the massive circlip has plenty to grip onto on the broken side. I really struggled to wiggle mine out and broke off some of the bakershite back down the oil filter hole, in slow motion - nooooo oooo oooo / f*ck it - then broke the other end off getting the 19mm silicon hose on :)

my god these S3's are both fun and dog poop.
 
tcg said:
How's the RSN-E going?
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Like the car nowhere haha I'm just waiting on the pins to add them extra wires from the guide you sent me funnily enough I spoke to that company about coming out to sort it a week before you sent that over but they never got back to me


tcg said:
At least you'll know the exact GPS position oYou guys certainly know how to make me feel better,well just a bit.I'm dreading doing the VVT gaskets next as I'm liable to break something there,everything I touch seems to turn into skittles :blink:,
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If it does go wrong maybe we can get a group buy on engine rebuilds
 
I fixed a "push rod tube" on my VW camper van after drilling straight through the bell housing with an 8mm drill into the soft tube, I waited for all the oil to leak out overnight and fixed it 2 hours before driving on our first holiday and owned the camper for 5 years after without a leak - I have never looked back since. :)
 
What a difference a day makes-twenty four little hours :yes:

After a couple of hours sleep back at it today and within half an hour I had the PCV hard pipe back on the filter housing.Did end up using the old 'o' ring but it's on and plumbed back in...

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Double clipped for peace of mind,a few more bruises and cuts to go with it.

Thanks for the input guys,much appreciated

Just waiting for my VVT tensioner tool to arrive,late from ebay,as usual!

Need to get on with that,hopefully fire it up instead of set it on fire as I wanted to do yesterday.Then I can enjoy laying underneath for the sump removal and oil pump change.

Best get on with my housework,hoover on up!
 
Ah!

Lady Luck raises her head again,I seem to be repeating myself far too much...sump off today to change the oil pump and apart from a few niggles,it's cleaned up and ready to go back on.

Unfortunately I'm not as when I started to remove the baffle plate to get to the oil pump the nut had already been rounded off so I tried with a 5mm hex key and yes that has rounded as well :rage:

It must have been done up by some man with the strength of ten so now I feel the next step will have to be drilling it out unless somebody has got any better ideas,please don't shoot,I'm unarmed.

Certainly don't have that Friday feeling today :coldsweat: looks like the car will spend another week sat in my garage just as I renew my insurance.I wonder if I could just get cover for alternate months.
 
I felt like a fire has been an option on mine for a while, but I have a Michael Jackson "Bad" CD out of reach under the seat at the moment.
 
Ladies and Gentlemen I'd like to introduce to you my new BFF...

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Smacking that onto the mashed 10mm bolt head has done the trick :yes:

Just for you youngsters out there A/F is imperial just like old money used to be :blink:

Getting the old pump off was surprisingly easy,no need to remove the cog which I thought I might have to do after reading some of the comments on here.The new one went on just as easy,loosely fitted for now,so just waiting for some new bolts to arrive at Audi and hopefully the sump will be back on by next week.

Then we'll find out if all this work has cured the low oil pressure problem,fingers (plus anything else possible) crossed.
 
good work - Get yourself a 4 pack of Stella - or some pills.

I hope it cures your problem - did you replace the Oil Pressure Valve? at least you know you are halfway there ready to change the turbo now too.
 
Stuart B said:
good work - Get yourself a 4 pack of Stella - or some pills.
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Both for me,my neck feels like I've been stuck in a ruck for most of the game.

Stuart B said:
I hope it cures your problem - did you replace the Oil Pressure Valve?
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Couldn't get hold of a oil pressure relief valve,it seems you have to have a new oil filter housing and that's too much plus I don't really want to remove the housing for fear of breaking more stuff.

As it is,I couldn't get the bracket off to get a socket on the long gearbox to sump bolt,due to a rusted nut and bolt on the pipe bracket,so had to resort to old fashioned spanner driven by a lump hammer.I'll use the same procedure to torque that one up...TT,TTF.

Stuart B said:
at least you know you are halfway there ready to change the turbo now too.
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Guess that could be the next thing to go bang :blow: hope I'm not tempting fate.

How's Michael,still hiding under the seat?...at least,You are not alone.
 
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it'll all come good in the end - did you notice if the oil pressure light only came on under idle or under load.
 
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if the pressure valve is jammed open - then the oil pressure will be too low at idle but fine when running on revs, maybe when it is cold and thicker oil the pressure is okay - or perhaps if it is cold it takes a different route?
 
Stuart B said:
if the pressure valve is jammed open - then the oil pressure will be too low at idle but fine when running on revs, maybe when it is cold and thicker oil the pressure is okay - or perhaps if it is cold it takes a different route?
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It always takes the same route at present...my house,along the A40 to Wheatley,then back again :blackrs4:
 
I think I could say that about quite a few of the cars I've owned :yes: I am determined not to be beaten by this one.

It was my choice so I have to live with that,and smack myself in the face with a wet fish daily,just to remind me!
 
Probably would.

My GF works for Renault,but she won't bring home one of those lovely yellow ones from the factory unfortunately :grumpy:
 
tcg said:
Ladies and Gentlemen I'd like to introduce to you my new BFF...

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Smacking that onto the mashed 10mm bolt head has done the trick :yes:

Just for you youngsters out there A/F is imperial just like old money used to be :blink:

Getting the old pump off was surprisingly easy,no need to remove the cog which I thought I might have to do after reading some of the comments on here.The new one went on just as easy,loosely fitted for now,so just waiting for some new bolts to arrive at Audi and hopefully the sump will be back on by next week.

Then we'll find out if all this work has cured the low oil pressure problem,fingers (plus anything else possible) crossed.
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So is it literally a couple of 10mm bolts and then you can wiggle the oil pump free? I wanna do mine... but it'll be in situ
 
IanPG said:
So is it literally a couple of 10mm bolts and then you can wiggle the oil pump free? I wanna do mine... but it'll be in situ
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I did it with this much clearance mate although I am a skinny runt so can crawl under small gaps...

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There's three bolts holding the pump on,10mm socket or 5mm hex (Allen) key,obviously the first one you have to undo is the one holding on the plastic baffle plate.Audi seem to make their bolts with soft heads so they can 'round off' quite easily.I did take off the oil pick up pipe before removing the oil pump.

The Haynes Manual states to use a screwdriver to ease back the chain tensioner but I found it easier to undo the mounting bolts then push back the chain where it touches the tensioner with one hand whilst tilting the oil pump sprocket end upwards,lifting that end as much as possible,then running my fingers down the chain from the tensioner and easing the chain off the cog.Sort of the reverse of what you did as a kid when the chain came off your bike,I'm sure you can remember that far back :blink:

I think the hardest bit is the fact that my gloves were covered in oil so it was a bit like handling a slippery eel.A bit like you mate I thought it might be a challenge but honestly it is a lot less daunting than you think.

Or maybe it's because where I come from it's not unusual to have three hands and everyone in my village is related :yes:

Having seen what you've done to your S3 you'll have it done in no time.
 
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tcg said:
Or maybe it's because where I come from it's not unusual to have three hands and everyone in my village is related :yes:
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haaaahahahahahahahaha as if you said that. What a pisser!!!
Cool sounds not too hard then. Have removed the sump 3 times already. What's another LOL

Thanks for the thorough description. Now I can visualise it in my mind it does sound simple as :)
 
IanPG said:
Thanks for the thorough description. Now I can visualise it in my mind it does sound simple as :)
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If I can do it I'm sure you'll have no trouble.Mine's been sat like that for a few days now waiting for the new mounting bolts to arrive at Audi,gives the treacle oil plenty of time to drain out!

Good luck,not that you'll need it.
 
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Had to play the insurance roulette game today as it is up for renewal,maybe a bit premature as it is still on axle stands!

When I got the car last year,as most often happens,had to stay with Flux and the price was higher than my last car (GT4) :blink:

When my renewal quote came through I decided it was too much and tried one on here which wasn't much better so did a comparison site and got it down to a similar 'package' at two thirds of the original quote.

And yes,you guessed it,after speaking to Flux they were able to beat my lowest quote so at least I saved around £100.Just a shame after 18 years of loyalty that they would have fleeced me if I hadn't checked it out.

Such a shame we live in a world like this.
 
Finally got the sump back on today,did have a panic attack when one of the awkward bolts fell into the abyss of the flywheel housing and had that 'what do I do now' syndrome,where I didn't know whether to take off the sump and start again or crack on and torque the rest up.Did the latter and spent what seemed like an eternity fishing the rogue bolt out.

Hopefully the sump was tight enough around the other bolts to form a seal,time will tell I guess.Thought I'd better leave it overnight and start with a clear head in the morning and double check the torques,fit the undertrays,and fill it with oil.

Tomorrow is D-Day :blink:

Will it start?
Will it leak?
Will it have cured the low oil pressure problem?

God I hope it's a no,no and yes.

If you're in the Oxford area tomorrow there's a good chance you'll either hear a massive sigh of relief or a harrowing scream!
 
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fingers crossed you will get to the bottom of the issue soon :)
 
tcg said:
Finally got the sump back on today,did have a panic attack when one of the awkward bolts fell into the abyss of the flywheel housing and had that 'what do I do now' syndrome,where I didn't know whether to take off the sump and start again or crack on and torque the rest up.Did the latter and spent what seemed like an eternity fishing the rogue bolt out.

Hopefully the sump was tight enough around the other bolts to form a seal,time will tell I guess.Thought I'd better leave it overnight and start with a clear head in the morning and double check the torques,fit the undertrays,and fill it with oil.

Tomorrow is D-Day :blink:

Will it start?
Will it leak?
Will it have cured the low oil pressure problem?

God I hope it's a no,no and yes.

If you're in the Oxford area tomorrow there's a good chance you'll either hear a massive sigh of relief or a harrowing scream!
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i HATE those 3 awkward bolts with a passion!!! i found it really helps locate them properly if you shine a light into the hole before the one you're working on. you can clearly see where it need to go from there. to help the universal joint from swinging loosely i tape it up with electrical tape. that way it "holds" it's position better yet still swivels to be able to get those 3 bitches on tight enough.

ah well it's all done! and one 10mm bolt isn't going to affect the sump in a bad way. just as long as the rest are torqued correctly you will be fine :)
 
tcg said:
Finally got the sump back on today,did have a panic attack when one of the awkward bolts fell into the abyss of the flywheel housing and had that 'what do I do now' syndrome,where I didn't know whether to take off the sump and start again or crack on and torque the rest up.Did the latter and spent what seemed like an eternity fishing the rogue bolt out.

Hopefully the sump was tight enough around the other bolts to form a seal,time will tell I guess.Thought I'd better leave it overnight and start with a clear head in the morning and double check the torques,fit the undertrays,and fill it with oil.

Tomorrow is D-Day :blink:

Will it start?
Will it leak?
Will it have cured the low oil pressure problem?

God I hope it's a no,no and yes.

If you're in the Oxford area tomorrow there's a good chance you'll either hear a massive sigh of relief or a harrowing scream!
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i HATE those 3 awkward bolts with a passion!!! i found it really helps locate them properly if you shine a light into the hole before the one you're working on. you can clearly see where it need to go from there. to help the universal joint from swinging loosely i tape it up with electrical tape. that way it "holds" it's position better yet still swivels to be able to get those 3 bitches on tight enough.

ah well it's all done! and one 10mm bolt isn't going to affect the sump in a bad way. just as long as the rest are torqued correctly you will be fine :)
 
Stuart B said:
fingers crossed you will get to the bottom of the issue soon :)
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Spent so much time scrabbling about under the car I'm sure I've started to fashion a groove in my garage floor that's slowly becoming an inspection pit.
 
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IanPG said:
i HATE those 3 awkward bolts with a passion!!! i found it really helps locate them properly if you shine a light into the hole before the one you're working on
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With an inspection lamp,head & hand torch that third hand of mine was a bonus.Got nervous though every time an aircraft went over in case it thought it was the landing lights for Heathrow airport's third runway.

IanPG said:
to help the universal joint from swinging loosely i tape it up with electrical tape. that way it "holds" it's position better yet still swivels to be able to get those 3 bitches on tight enough.
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Should of asked you in advance after you telling me how much you enjoy taking it off as often as you have in the past :blush: all the bolts are in and torqued so it just a case of hoping there was enough pressure to seal the sump while I was arsing around chasing that bolt.

Double check everything today,including my sanity,then 'fire up the Quattro!'
 
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Took the car out this morning,round the block to warm it up then the usual test route to see how it was...

tcg said:
Tomorrow is D-Day :blink:

Will it start?
Will it leak?
Will it have cured the low oil pressure problem?
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Yes it did
Looks like so as there is a drop of oil under the sump so may have to 'Eat,Sleep,Rave,Repeat' that job
No low pressure symbol/warning as of yet although my paranoia is stopping me from getting too complacent

I need to take it for a longer run tomorrow/next day when my confidence is higher and if the sump is not leaking too much.

Yesterday when I lost that bolt in the flywheel housing I had that feeling from your childhood when you had broken something and you knew that when your dad found out he was going to 'lay' one on you.

Today when I got back from the test run,I had that feeling from your childhood when you had found your dad's secret stash of porno mags.

Well until I saw the drip of oil under the sump :blink:
 
Went out to the car this morning and checked the 'oil drip' cardboard under the car and no more spots so that was a positive start.

Decided to take the S3 out for a slightly longer test run,just took it easy until up to temperature then picked up some speed on boost and instead of the 'woosh' sound you normally get when doing this it sounded more like a 'grating' noise and underpowered :grumpy: looked behind in the mirror and loads of smoke.

Limped home and the car is bellowing out smoke on tickover.I'm guessing it would be turbo related but need to get someone with a brain to confirm.Even then,without researching,I bet it's a pain in the **** to do and even more money and time off the road.

Seriously pi$$ed off with it now,only positive,if you can call it that,was that no 'low oil pressure' warnings have come up YET!

Need to go and look for a length of rope,strong enough for a skinny runt to suspend from.
 
aarrrrggghhhhhh how frustrating

i don't get how an oil pump change could've done that.... or do you think maybe oil starvation has happened?
 
IanPG said:
i don't get how an oil pump change could've done that.... or do you think maybe oil starvation has happened?
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Maybe right mate.Really not exactly sure if it is the turbo at the moment but right now I've had a belly full of my car.Need to get someone to have a look and confirm then decide what to do next.

I'm sure I can do a turbo swap if that's all that's wrong with the car but just from reading a few posts it seems like a pretty big job and no doubt most of the bolts/nuts involved will be seized :blink:

Nice launch control you have there mate,shame your not close to me as I'd get you to park in front of my S3 and launch,maybe your flames could ignite my car and we'd all be happy.
 
sorry to hear the bad news :(

what was the grating sound?
lack of lubrication in the turbo after the oil pump change and the turbo dying, or from inside the engine?
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is it the next bit of the original low oil pressure issue?
or
Maybe the new oil pump working at 100% pumped some debris previously blocking an oil way all the way through to an oil pipe from engine block to turbo?

if it is the turbo is the oil basically leaking straight into the turbo and burning in the downpipe?

This is so incredibly frustrating for you - you have been so meticulous with all of your improvements.

Buy a runabout and get a rebuilt engine with Badger 5 ATE Turbo et-al with replacement internals and map(s) to suit you exact needs - you can be 100% sure that all that will be perfect - then the engine will match all the external bits you have.
 
*** never seems to go your way does it.

Stuart B said:
get a rebuilt engine with Badger 5 ATE Turbo et-al with replacement internals and map(s) to suit you exact needs - you can be 100% sure that all that will be perfect - then the engine will match all the external bits you have.
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That my plan, it will cost a few quid but at least you will enjoy driving it again
 
I wish the grating sound was just my teeth,I could only hear it when I accelerated 'on boost'.The engine did sound ok but my paranoia is taking over and my brain is mashed and with my luck right now,who knows.

Been searching on here for a turbo swap guide but can't seem to find a clear guide if I need to do that.Changed the turbo on my last car but that was at the front of the engine so a bit easier,whereas this one looks like a pi$$ of a job.With that job the turbo couldn't be rebuilt so had to go secondhand and that was still £400 plus me fitting it.If I get a garage to do it,plus the price of a turbo rebuild or replacement then the cost will no doubt be the price of another car.

Stuart B said:
Buy a runabout and get a rebuilt engine with Badger 5 ATE Turbo et-al with replacement internals and map(s) to suit you exact needs - you can be 100% sure that all that will be perfect - then the engine will match all the external bits you have.
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This car has given me enough of a runaround to last a lifetime.I don't want to waste any more money than I have to,I have spent far too much already.I don't want hybrid or extra power,just a car that's reliable and fun to drive,neither at the moment.

Tj 0785 said:
*** never seems to go your way does it.
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Seems to be a common phrase on here,perhaps we should start a thread :yes:

Really don't know which way to turn,I hate being beaten but I've also had too much of getting beaten up,my S3 is beginning to 'bully' me...into submission!
 
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