I guess that depends on if you are after the fastest hatch out there or after something else?
I guess that depends on whether you measure "fastest" using numbers (bhp and lb/ft) or how quickly it will actually go when you drive it.
I guess that depends on if you are after the fastest hatch out there or after something else?
I'm no Jason Plato but I've "eaten" STs and old style Focus RS's on numerous track days (Anglesey, Silverstone, Oulton Park, Cadwell) in my S3. Don't think this is at all true. And I'm not trying to big myself up here - it was the car (rather than my average skill level) which was the reason.
But then again 265bhp standard re-mapped with Bluefin... it is bound to eat a std 223bhp ST - if the owner wasnt fortunate enough to be blessed with Code red or Dreamscience. So Its no much wonder.
Who was comparing mapped cars to standard?
I can confirm, my last car was a Focus ST-2, with Dreamscience Race + re-map. Car was dyno'd at 271.3 bhp. Which is a damn bit more than the prescribed 223 bhp which comes from factory!!!
After all my audi troubles - I have gone back to Ford again - and have ordered a ST-3 this time, and will be doing exactly same portable mod to the Ford again. It would easily Eat a standard S3, there is no reason for it not to! quote]
This was before my Bluefin - but fair point. Standard 265bhp v 223bhp. However (see my comments at the very start of the thread) standard Golf GTis with 197bhp were "eating" the STs too - because they handle better due to lower power/load going through the steering wheels.
I guess that depends on whether you measure "fastest" using numbers (bhp and lb/ft) or how quickly it will actually go when you drive it.
I know, a lot of 20 yr old jumped up Fords will beat most Audis on here. There are plenty of 5-600 bhp Sierra Cosworths knocking about and their handling isn't all that bad either.
haha, nice Alex
I forgot to mention. On the way back up from Luton a few weeks ago a red Renault Megane trophy sport F1 le mans 24 R26 with chequered flag on bumper came hooning past. (lol)
I had 4 in the car including me, but thought what the hey....basically he got served
Infact, he got served multiple times, everytime I pulled over far in front and letting off he came past time and again
Eventually he came to his junction and gave me a few flashes of the headlights as he pulled off
I guess depends on if you mean a 1/4 mile drag or round a track,
At the end of the day, I couldn't really give a toss, I drive a diesle so everything is faster but its fun watching everyone else get hot and bothered that some jumped up ford may beat their Audi
I can confirm, my last car was a Focus ST-2, with Dreamscience Race + re-map. Car was dyno'd at 271.3 bhp. Which is a damn bit more than the prescribed 223 bhp which comes from factory!!!
After all my audi troubles - I have gone back to Ford again - and have ordered a ST-3 this time, and will be doing exactly same portable mod to the Ford again. It would easily Eat a standard S3, there is no reason for it not to! Just because it is FWD, it is the best handling FWD Car in its class.... There has to be a reason ford haven't ported there 4wd chassis across from the Kuga.
I'm no Jason Plato but I've "eaten" STs and old style Focus RS's on numerous track days (Anglesey, Silverstone, Oulton Park, Cadwell) in my S3. Don't think this is at all true. And I'm not trying to big myself up here - it was the car (rather than my average skill level) which was the reason.
Anyone hot or bothered out there ?
Maybe not hot and bothered but you clearly feel you have a point to prove, which I find quite amusing to be honest
I say wait till the Stig get hold of both and puts them round a track. Its unfair to say on track days because driver talet comes into it and that is a HUGE variable!
Why's it amusing? I took it as just another point of view, isnt that what this place is about?
Man lets stick to the thread for once?
From comments such as "200bhp in a FWD car is the max tyres can handle" through to "My S3 trounced a xxx on a track day" are pretty worthless unless you have some fixed variables (same drivers, same weather conditions etc)
for what its worth, I would choose an S3 over any ford but again I guess that's not the point
Oh and my A3 diesel annihilated a Gallardo the other day.......
The reason I find it amusing is that people will find any excuse to theorise why a car not yet released will be worse/better than a car they own, a view that will clearly be one sided.
From comments such as "200bhp in a FWD car is the max tyres can handle" through to "My S3 trounced a xxx on a track day" are pretty worthless unless you have some fixed variables (same drivers, same weather conditions etc)
Im not sure, its your opinion, your welcome to air it. BTW, tell us what IS the point if you know???for what its worth, I would choose an S3 over any ford but again I guess that's not the point
Should I laugh or call you a ****??Oh and my A3 diesel annihilated a Gallardo the other day.......
Isnt that the topic of the thread? Or would it be more acceptable if we all sat quietly for you and refused to comment? Clearly any topic about the A3/S3 vs anything else in here is going to be slightly one sided, this is afterall an Audi Forum, weve been here bofre but you refuse to accept this simple fact. If I owned a Ford and didnt really rate Audi, I sure as **** wouldnt be wasting my time in here. *Groan*
Its not worthless, its peoples experiences; they took the time to write here, and I for one dont think its worthless.
Im not sure, its your opinion, your welcome to air it. BTW, tell us what IS the point if you know???
Should I laugh or call you a ****??
Anyway, I look forward to the RS coming out as I LOVE performance cars, especially hot hatches, and am interested to see what it'll be like!
Nah, im having a good day, sun is shining, thinking about having a BBQ later
I'll concede that we dont share the same opinion on anything at all.
I guess we should all welcome new hot hatches or in fact any form of perofrmance cars coming out
Why should we ? Because you say so ? I'll not be welcoming the release of "every performance car coming out" because I try to be discerning about these things.
Why should we ? Because you say so ? I'll not be welcoming the release of "every performance car coming out" because I try to be discerning about these things.
Why should we ? Because you say so ? I'll not be welcoming the release of "every performance car coming out" because I try to be discerning about these things.
LoL, you read my mind!