I have done a search on here but there does not seem to many people on here running the MTM maps. To the people who do run them what do u think of them? Why are there only a few MTM s3's out there?
Only problem is the person who knows MTM's the best is QST & they are right stuck up ****'s & unbelievably expensive, .
About 310lbft??
Plenty make that!!! LOL
My suspension was done at APS which im sure many will know of on this forum have a great service, have time to discuss things and that counts along way for repeat biz....anyways im tired now lol...with regards to MTM remaps, as a brand name then yes go with them, as for bang for buck i'd look elsewhere as there are many companies doing maps, and lets face it they're all gonna come out roughtly the same bhp/torque unless you start modifying other elements.
Just out of curiosity Nigel, but do you have personal experience of custom remapping of turbo cars, and the pitfalls a custom map might entail?
I don't know if AMD do custom maps, but people regularly report of 15-20 runs on the dyno at Jabba for a custom map to get it to the point where they are satisfied to give it back to the customer. I am happy for them to do 30 runs if that's what it takes to get my car right.
It most definitely isn't a "load the generic map and tweak it at 4.5k" half hour job.
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Well some strong opinions there. I should have added that my car is already chipped by jabbasport according to the previous owner. However im not that happy with it im sure the s3 has more to come. It seems to struggle to gain anything on my mates S3 that is standard. With regards to QST, i know Kim well. He basically built my UR Quattro and has worked on my S2 and S4. I think you need to build a relationship with them over a period of time. I think they get a lot of people wasting there time, now i have been there a number of times i get on well with them and always found there work to be very good. Never had an MTM chip though as i have always bought cars ready mapped mainly by MRC.
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Glad I'm not the only one with that impression, they are very much like that, problem is the prices are to high & they do think there **** dont stink, ok so he put an RS4 engine into an S3 & he may know his stuff which is impressive, but & I say but serious attitude change needed in order for people to swallow the price or even consider going there
They talk to you sarcastically making as though you are like 2 years old sometimes cause you should know everything they do about cars, especially the woman who works there, very snooty & up there's, its there attitude that made me wanna learn more about my cars which I'm glad I do as I wont go back there for anything whatsoever, I'd rather drive 500 fecking miles to a garage on the back of an AA truck than go to them even if they were next door to me, lol, lol.
Its a family business so you can see why they are mostly like that, runs in the genes, lol.
But still I emailed them about my car & some work I needed doing while back, they never responded, all Kim's interested in is the big earners he isnt bothered about the silly little electrical issues, trumps up a front bush issue when it was perfectly ok, went in with noise come out with the noise, I told them it was in the Gbox, fecking idiot, just added the bush issue so he could charge more time & parts.
DONT YOU LISTEN KIM, IT MAKES A NOISE FROM THE CLUTCH GEARBOX, IT ONLY DOES IT WHEN YOU LET THE CLUTCH OF SO HOW THE HELL CAN IT BE A BUSH YOU STUPID ****.
I'm no master mechanic but my dad was, so I know what a clutch noise sounds like especially when you are depressing/releasing & noise is there, obvious to a 2 year old as stated above, lol.
Only problem is the person who knows MTM's the best is QST & they are right stuck up ****'s & unbelievably expensive, but seem to know there stuff, didnt do **** for me though £400 later after I went to them with a clutch noise, waste of time & much friendlier/cheaper companies out there.
I believe Jabba has a good rep & my mate AMD are also good as I've used them for years with no faults at all, just ask about bit more before making the plunge to MTM as they are highly priced TBH.
The problem with MTM is it usually ends up spending more than the mapping as most MTM's I've known have spent alot more money than standard remap, usually an uprated clutch is one of them added given the amount of torque as yours will eventually get fecked, where as the more generic maps which are also ****** good TBH & plenty more power for you, can work happily with the existing clutch, depends how much dollar you have but if you are a 1st timer, go generic for about 4-500 as I think you'll be more than happy with that from your stock power trust me, it is plentyyyyyy of power to enjoy for now.
I've stated my opinion/fact & thats enough for me.
This thread has become pointless, I think we've gone completely of the subject, so I think its time to end the thread.
Personal rude insults dont have a place on this forum, you are fair to express your opinions/experiences & knowledge, but not to start creating an issue where none exists.
So move on to something more constructive for us all.
South east fella, but sold my S3 I'm afraid but there are plenty of them about you could easily hookup with someone.
I do miss the S3 TBH, look good & hell of alot of fun, lol.
Yeah that got me @ 1st with ECON, you can see the fuel tank just drainnnnnnnnnnn with aircon running, lol, lol.
The aircon only turns on when you have push the auto button or when you actually press the snowflake button, if you use ECON & use the individual controls for face, feet etc then it will remain on ECON, but its a bit **** TBH especially as they have now removed the OFF button on the A3 as I had the S3 with no OFF button, you had to press minus all the time to turn of fully, then S4 had the OFF button, which was great, then A3 they remove, *******, lol, lol.
I've got MTM remap on mine had it for 4 years now - and I echo almost all the comments thus far...
Plenty of torque (311 lb/ft for mine)
I needed a new clutch last year
It was expensive compared to what else was on offer
I found Kim and QST very arrogant.
Would I buy one again - probably, but I think I'd go to Germany and buy it directly from MTM themselves.
I've got MTM remap on mine had it for 4 years now - and I echo almost all the comments thus far...
Plenty of torque (311 lb/ft for mine)
I needed a new clutch last year
It was expensive compared to what else was on offer
I found Kim and QST very arrogant.
Would I buy one again - probably, but I think I'd go to Germany and buy it directly from MTM themselves.
This is from a 4 year forum member, so he's also full of **** is here, so thats 3 of us that have stated the same thing about QST, so are we all 3 of full of **** are we, I guess we all made it up that they are arrogant, if it was 1 person fair enough, your comments would hold water, but 3 different people that dont even know eachother.
If you have any common sense then this should tell you that maybe its true what we say about him.
And that's fair enough dude, but to call them stuck up ***** and all the rest of isn't on.
They may well be arrogant, but that's up to them and the business image they want to project. Only they can change their perception. They'll soon find out that their attitude is no good when the waiting room's empty!
The thing I took issue with, was the claim that a map is just loaded and tweaked. Yes, essentially that's what happens in laymans terms, but the logistics of it is much more involved. e.g. some engine codes (AGU's) necessitate the ECU being removed each time to upload. Do that 15-20 times!
People who think custom mapping is easy need to go and watch one being done.
Regardless of tuner, I think if you look hard enough, you will find those that have had bad experiences. Jusst happens that we didn't have to look.
Excuse me, but where exactly did I call them 'stuck up *****'. Please don't acuse me of saying things that I haven't.
I have no issue with the amount of work involved in a proper custom map and I have no problem paying more for it. I view MTM as a quality product which is why I chose it in the first place over the competitor products available at the time. I paid over £1300 for my map and exhaust in 2004 but I left the garage slighly uneasily.
In general most small garages have customer service problems. I've had some sort of problem with almost all garages I've dealt with - AmD, JBS, The Phirm, AH Autos etc. etc. I am happy to cut people some slack, but ultimately I am a customer, I give them money, I have certain expectations. If they aren't met, I don't go back. Perhaps I'm just too picky! However at this rate, I'm going to run out of VAG specialists to go to!
I can take the credit for the stuck up ***** comment, but he's also wrong saying I called them *******, I didnt call him a ****** atall did I? That was someone else.
It was me that said "waynekers" lol sorry, and who exactly said it related to Kim himself! Maybe it was a now X-worker? All I said was if thats peoples attitude towards, not just customers but slagging off other companies, then thats very unprofessional and therefore my opinion stands! I don't care who you are in the world, someone with attitude does'nt get any respect, why bad mouth other companies, if your good at your job there is no need to be like this. Love the Bi-Moto's tho have to say haha