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Hi
can any one help with letting me know which FBMFSW can be fitted to B6 A4 ?
tried lookin but keep finding conflicting info
ie probs with single and dual stage airbags .
any info much appreciated also part no and what wheels fit

thx
Cheech
 
The FBMFSW is not an OEM option with 100% compatibility on the A4/B6.
The main issue as you have identified is the airbag - these are only dual stage on these wheels which the B6 precedes from a design perspective.
I believe, "Retrofitters" have got around this problem by joining the two communication wires together?
However, there are no tests to prove that this modification works - ideally a volunteer car would be needed for a crash simulation!!
 
I didn't do mine - I got a VAG electronics specialist to do it.



Not been crash tested, but they have been ignition tested (simulating the signal from the impact detectors and sending it to the high-impact bag).

From what I understand that you only wire up the HI sensor connectors, NOT both!

Wiring up both is risky - one guy did this on his A3 and then inadvertently "tested" it and it didn't deploy at all - apparently there isn't enough current/voltage when spread across both bags, so just wire up the main bag and then the smaller LI bag doesn't get deployed - just the much larger HI airbag. There's only a highimpact bag in the B6 A4 anyway, so no real change from a standard B6.
 
lostbok said:
.....Not been crash tested, but they have been ignition tested (simulating the signal from the impact detectors and sending it to the high-impact bag).

From what I understand that you only wire up the HI sensor connectors, NOT both!

Wiring up both is risky - one guy did this on his A3 and then inadvertently "tested" it and it didn't deploy at all - apparently there isn't enough current/voltage when spread across both bags, so just wire up the main bag and then the smaller LI bag doesn't get deployed - just the much larger HI airbag. There's only a highimpact bag in the B6 A4 anyway, so no real change from a standard B6.
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It was a while back since I looked into this - so looks like the airbag connection is resolved satisfactory with regards to impact testing.
 
note testing was independent: not by Audi. Not that there ever is a guarantee, I'd say that is far from a 100% guarantee it'll work every time, but at least some assurance that somebody has thought about it!
 
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hi
thx to all ,
so what ur all saying is if i wire up the high impact airbag all should be ok and will deploy as required ?
are there any guides around or can anyone let me know how i do this ?
@ lostbook
who were the vag specialists and was it Expensive ?
thx
Cheech
 
Yea guys, has anybody a guide? I've a new r steering wheel controller ordered to do my cruise. When i put the multifunction wheel in the womans mk5 golf all I needed was an extra loom off Vw to get it working .

So don't wire up the the low airbag one?? So is there an extra loom needed of Audi to get the wheel functioning?
 
you need a different slip-rin to fit it in the first place and also the wiring loom from teh B7 too....

HazzyDayz

They get some special discount on the parts: I went for the "new" option and when I priced up the parts by themselves, it was over £900 in total (the wheel was £830 alone!!)... paid about £800 inc parts & labour and the wheel was 100% new (I even asked not to have one with the S-line badge on it :) )....

If you source the parts they can still fit it.
 
Sorry but is the slipring and steering angle sensor the same thing? Very dear that is and bear in mind im the other side of the water:laugh:.
 
cheech said:
Hi
can any one help with letting me know which FBMFSW can be fitted to B6 A4 ?
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Are you lot kidding ?
FBMFSW ?
WTF?

do I have to google everything you guys post !

Like being in the Army with all the acronyms flying about.

I am but a young padawan, learning the way of the 4 ring force ??

I guessed MFSW is multi function steering wheel ?
what's the "FB"

This only a rant in jest BTW! ;-)
 
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flat bottom wheels can be found on ebay, german ebay is also a good place to look.
it is deffo the high impact that needs to be connected not the low.
i wouldnt use HAZZYDAYS if he was paying me !!!!!!! total tosser who has been charging for parts he hasnt even been fitting !!!!
these wheels are from later s3's and ttrs's etc
 
Whats the going rate to pay for one then? I'll need a bag for it too
 
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hi
so i take it i need loom and slipring ,
are they specific to the FBMFSW or will ones from a B7 do ?
ie
if i put TTRS wheel on would slipring and loom be fromm TTRS ?
also how do i know which is High Impact connectors to connect ? is this plug and play or do connections need changing ?
thx
Cheech
 
knowing james its " round steering wheel " lol

there old hat quattro !!!!! squares the future !! lmfao
 
I feel like i just walked into one of those pubs in knowhereville and as you walk in it all goes quiet and everyone turns & just stares @ you ... :tumble:

You guys know each other too well:friends:, I am such a newbee... LOL :blush:

Ahhh Excellent RSW i have one of those too.

However I have the TSRSW version.. ;)
 
cheech said:
hi
so i take it i need loom and slipring ,
are they specific to the FBMFSW or will ones from a B7 do ?
ie
if i put TTRS wheel on would slipring and loom be fromm TTRS ?
also how do i know which is High Impact connectors to connect ? is this plug and play or do connections need changing ?
thx
Cheech
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Good question. I'd like to know too
 
you need it from a b7 as its the b7 module that controls it all, be no good with a ttrs module and the ttrs slipring wouldnt fit your car.
 
how do i know which is the High Impact connectors and where to connect ?
is this plug and play or do connections need changing ?
or is it a case of not connecting one of the plugs from loom to airbag ?
thx
Cheech
 
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1wheelonly said:
you need it from a b7 as its the b7 module that controls it all, be no good with a ttrs module and the ttrs slipring wouldnt fit your car.
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best place to start is the steering wheel, the slip ring you need p/n is 4E0-953-541-A or B.

there are different looms (one white and one black) and if your steering wheel has a black plug then this is the p/n you need 4F0 971 589 A.
 
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but dont forget as long as plugs match then any loom can be adapted !!! every little helps !!! lol
 
hi just priced bits up from TPS ,
slipring £ 166.30 + vat
loom £ 16.35 + vat
tt FBMFSW + airbag >>>> £ 800.00 + vat
nice an cheap LOL
cheech

forgot to say thats TRADE prices :(
 
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i put a b7 s4 mfsw in mine and it was only £425 and £300 of that was for the wheel and bag and the wheel was brand new.

you getting all your stuff from the dealer?
 
Tps mate its trade that was new TT wheel and airbag
i know a lad works there thats prices he gave me this mornin
forgot to say ITS FLAT bottomed multi functiion wheel

cheech
 
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thx paulsb

but thats got paddles
already got a tt one for £450 inc airbag
should be here thurs

Can any one confirm if my SWCM is compatable with B7 slipring and TT FBMFSW
its an 8E0 953 549 P

i think but not sure i need a Q version ?
thx

Cheech
 
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hi
so i got bits coming Thurs ,
TT FBMFSW
AIRBAG
SLIPRING
BLACK PLUG LOOM (as the tt wheel as black plug fitted...is this right ?)
B7 SWCM

have i missed anything ?


only bit concerning me is wiring the high impact airbag up ,
can anyone shed any light ?
also what coding has to be done with
Rnse +sds , bluetooth so all work right ?
i read somewhere that i will have to recode bluetooth so it isnt trying to work as well as sds ?
any help much appreciated
Thx
Cheech
 
can anyone help with the above question above ?
thx
Cheech
 
im after info on what mods have to be done to the dual stage airbag to make it fit a B6 .......
cant find that info on SEARCH button

thx
Cheech
 
@BLACKPOOL
thx but i still cant find info on here ?
the link you put to audi us is what i was after thx
reading from that i take it i also need to replace the yellow plug that to goes into the slipring?
you say that nothing has to be done to get the dualstage to work on B6 ?
am i missing something or do i have to rewire the plug ?
also do you know of any one whos able to give me a hand if needed ( for a price of course )
as am thinking this is to big a job to take on ?????

thx
cheech
 
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