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Howdy,

Looking to do the folloowing on the s3 8l could you give your oppinion on the gains ill achieve :):

- Milltek system or similar
- Badger 5 tip and cone filter
- heat shield for cone
- N249 bypass
- I/C sprayer kit for standard I/C's at the moment but may uprgrade to a FMIC :)
- Remap - at this point im not sure if ill be eligable for a St2 remap but if so that will be the choice, if not st1 remap.

Thanks in advance, and if theres any other small tweeks avaiable for a few more BHP please let me know :)

Cheers. Jon
 
My understandings are:

-The N249 bypass doesnt increase power at all, it just improves dv response.
-The heatshield will not improve power directly but will help reduce heat shoak.
-Personally i think the ic spray is a waste of time on the standard intercoolers.
-From a milltek there are very little if any gains to be had other than an improved look and sound.
-The Badger 5 tip and jetex filter is an excellent upgrade, i have them on my s3 and it totally transformed the way the car drives, tests have shown gains of up to 19hp over standard tip and airbox.
-Remap is the best way to improve power for the money and makes the biggest improvement to the way the car drives, you wont be able to have a stage 2 map until you have an FMIC and 3 inch downpipe and cat back exhaust.

Think the above is right but please correct me if im wrong.
 
Thanks for the reply,
I have the impression that every little helps! lol.. Tests at work show that I/C sprayers can get around a 1HP for every 100Hp of your engine for every 10 degrees you knock the temp down, by rule of thumb. So chaps at work seem to think if i can drop the charge temp down by 10-20 degress could see a 2-4 HP! :) i know your thinking its not much but its something.

ill deffo be going with the TIP, any ideas of the best exhaust to go for ? with 3" downpipe?

Thanks again ,
 
- Milltek system or similar

Turbo spool improvement, unlikely to give much in regard to BHP gains.

- Badger 5 tip and cone filter

Depends on engine and level of tune. Will give gains without doubt, but how much is hard to judge. Normally 5 BHP upwards.

- heat shield for cone

No gains at all.

- N249 bypass

No gains at all unless it has a vac leak there.

- I/C sprayer kit for standard I/C's at the moment but may uprgrade to a FMIC :)

IC sprayer on the SMICs = waste of time IMO. Don't waste your time. Either get WMI fitted or go for a good front mount,

- Remap - at this point im not sure if ill be eligable for a St2 remap but if so that will be the choice, if not st1 remap.

You will be needing stage 1. 3" downpipe a must really for stage 2. With the B5 TIP on stock hardware, expect up to 265 BHP max.
 
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Welly said:
IC sprayer on the SMICs = waste of time IMO. Don't waste your time. Either get WMI fitted or go for a good front mount,

- Remap - at this point im not sure if ill be eligable for a St2 remap but if so that will be the choice, if not st1 remap.

You will be needing stage 1. 3" downpipe a must really for stage 2. With the B5 TIP on stock hardware, expect up to 265 BHP max.
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Thanks for the reply there,

excuse my ignorance but what does WMI stand for ?
are you suggesting that if i change nothing but the TIP and get a stage 2 thats around 265BHP ?

Cheers
 
Speedy Steve !

:) please can you enlighten me on how you acheived 314 BHP ??..

Thank you please :)
 
Water methanol injection, if you change nothing but the TIP and get a stage 1 map you could be looking at c. 265bhp dependant upon your cars mechanical condition.

A stage 2 map will take account of a 3 inch downpipe and a front mount generally.
 
JonBoi21 said:
Speedy Steve !

:) please can you enlighten me on how you acheived 314 BHP ??..

Thank you please :)
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Hybrid k04, Im going to fins some useful links for you to read.
 
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Stupid mac.

They are in no particular order but loads of useful info!
 
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W3STY said:
You'll struggle to get much more that 280bhp from a stage 2 K04 too. If you want over 300bhp you'll need to change the turbo.
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+1 and even then the delivery is not going to be as good as it will be from another turbo.

Basically save your self a wad and just go Big turbo straight away lol
 
Cheers for the commenst guys and posting up the links Dane :thumbsup:,

Could someone tell me about the WMI please >?
 
No worries :thumbsup:
 
Dane said:
Basically save your self a wad and just go Big turbo straight away lol
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Even after all the issues experienced lately, I don't 100% agree with that.

It really depends on what it is you are after IMO.

Running a hybrid at 22 PSI yeilding over 300 BHP is enough for some people lets be fair. If it is, and you can get a good blower, then hybrid is ideal for that.

Not everyone is after beserk power levels....
 
I like my 270ish reliable power. I'll let you know how it is on the track once i've got a few track days under my belt. If driven well enough I will be able to keep up with a fair few more powerful cars.
 
Welly said:
Even after all the issues experienced lately, I don't 100% agree with that.

It really depends on what it is you are after IMO.

Running a hybrid at 22 PSI yeilding over 300 BHP is enough for some people lets be fair. If it is, and you can get a good blower, then hybrid is ideal for that.

Not everyone is after beserk power levels....
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True - I wasn't being very serious, every ones different.

My thoughts on going BT are I dont want a garrett just for the mental power levels I want one because they, appear to, just work - no housing issues etc. but then again am I going to be satisfied, long term, with c. 350 brake from a 28... probably not, so it kind of make sense in my head to go bigger to begin with. :)
 
 
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