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11.7 seconds 1/4 mile B9 S4 - DTUK MPT TCU+ gearbox flash

ABYSS Oct 22, 2018

  1. ABYSS

    ABYSS Andrew - Diesel Tuning UK Site Sponsor Team Ara Blue Black Edition S3 Saloon

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    Hi Guys,

    one of our customers in the USA has recently taken his S4 to the strip and managed an impressive 11.706 second 1/4 mile time.

    DTUK MP-T tuning box
    DTUK TCU+ Gearbox flash
    Roc-euro intake
    ECS inlet pipe

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    Another customer in Canada running just the box and TCU gearbox flash managed an 11.89 seconds :)
     
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  3. SMI77

    SMI77 Australia Audi S4 Audi Avant Owner Group quattro

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    Andrew, a later post shows a final run of the day timeslip @ 11.65/117.8.
    Interesting to see a dyno sheet with the DTUK engine/trans tunes.
     
  4. desertstorm

    desertstorm Moderator Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User TDi Audi A4 Audi Avant Owner Group quattro

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    Low 1.6s 60 foot time is very good was he using standard tyres ? Judging by the reaction time probably using launch control although he was running on his own so nobody else to race.
     
  5. Boosted_Six

    Boosted_Six Active Member

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    I would take a guess at full bolt on cars (intake, downpipe, exhaust) with DTUK piggyback and gearbox flash being good for 11.5x and 120mph on the right day with the right tyres.

    Getting closer to the tuned B8 numbers now!
     
  6. terminator x

    terminator x Well-Known Member Team Nardo Team V6 Audi RS4

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    What power and torque is it likely to be?

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  7. A12RNX

    A12RNX Active Member TeamMisano Team V6 saloon Audi S4 Audi A6

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    After watching a few videos of rs5 b9s they do the quarter in 11.6 so must be around 450bhp
     
  8. Boosted_Six

    Boosted_Six Active Member

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    The RS models seem to be about 40kg heavier than equivalent S models. They also run a 265 width tyre. I suspect with quatro AWD a 245 tyre isnt limiting traction, so the heavier wheels and increased friction might actually be a slight negative in terms of drag racing.

    So my finger in the air guess is 430bhp in an S is where 11.7x comes up.
     
  9. A12RNX

    A12RNX Active Member TeamMisano Team V6 saloon Audi S4 Audi A6

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    The person who ran the 11.7 had 275/30/20 wheels with falken azenis. Not to sure on weight to be honest but the RS also comes standard with sports diff. Not sure if the s5 had that option
     
  10. mtlquattro

    mtlquattro New Member

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    Hi guys! This is my car and I did the runs. B9S5 coupe with sport diff and mods posted are correct. The car was full weight plus me so around 3800lbs and heavy 20x10.5 inch wheels. Some of you are curious about the power it's putting down. Let's not underestimate the power it takes to trap a 3800lbs car at 117.8 mph. From my experience and after seeing hundreds of runs from various cars, it is fair to say that the car must be pushing over 480hp to be that quick. My 11.65 is on par with that trap speed there is even room left for a 11.5xx. Believe it or not, even with a low 1.6xx 60' I had traction issues due to very low temps. And this is not a lucky run, I did 3 11.6xx@117.xx runs that day.

    This is the best run so far see the 1.670 60', it could have been better: 20181021_165802.jpg
     
  11. Boosted_Six

    Boosted_Six Active Member

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    Thanks for the extra details mtlquattro.
    I don't know if US spec and Euro spec differ hugely on curb weight but the B9 s5 Coupe comes in at 3553lbs for us (15-20kg / 30-40lbs lighter than an s4 sedan.

    The wider rubber clearly makes some great 60ft times possible. Did you have any means of comparison with the stock 255 tyres & 19" wheels on how it affected trap speed?

    I assume you are running your piggy back on map 3+3 with some E85 for example?

    Much appreciated!
     
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  13. mtlquattro

    mtlquattro New Member

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    Well my car as it sits is 3575lbs plus me 200lbs and random stuff like tools, etc I round it to 3800lbs so yeah it is a bit lighter than a sedan. Also the coupe might have a slight advantage in drag coefficient but not sure about that one.

    I never ran this setup with my stock cavos wheels as I use them for winter so I can't bring numbers to compare but my 20's are definetely heavier and it sure does not help trap speed. I would bet that 255's with quattro get as much traction as 275's if not more due to the higher profile so more rubber to compress on the launch. Wider is not always better.

    North american cars seems to react different to the piggyback, I run a us/canada specific map on pump gas, no ethanol, only 94 (ron+mon)/2
     
  14. SMI77

    SMI77 Australia Audi S4 Audi Avant Owner Group quattro

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    Have you considered running a DTUK Pedal Box, as surely that would help lower times?
    If you had traction issues, would that not have affected your time and/or speed? Time & speed are not always co-related.

    For those who are not aware, US/Canadian S4's have to run a modified map programme to the rest of the world DTUK Tune Box.
     
  15. mtlquattro

    mtlquattro New Member

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    I have not considered the pedal box. My understanding of it is that it changes the imput of the throttle in relation of the pedal position for better street drivability. Since 1/4 mile is done pedal to the floor 100% of the time, I don't see how this could yield better times but I may be wrong.

    The relation of e.t. versus trap is somewhat tricky. Sometimes, some wheel spin in the firts 60' will actually get you higher trap speed but higher e.t. An old saying about that is that you have more time to build up speed lol. That is completely wrong and stupid in every way, anyone with a good understanding of basic physics should know why. The real explanation for that has more to do with momentun and being higher in the rev range in relation of your position on the track. The potential e.t. can be estimated from the trap speed. Trap speed is dependant of the power that the car is putting down. Good e.t is dependant of the lauch and getting traction.
     
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    SMI77 Australia Audi S4 Audi Avant Owner Group quattro

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    My thinking was that with a high setting, it may well give you a better reaction time, and yes, I may be wrong as well.

    Noted, but that old saying is correct for old f@rts like me, who failed physics at school, as with wheelspin one is sitting there wasting time. ;-)
    Speed & E.T. are also dependent on gearing and spread of power through the rev range?
    Having been to many, many drag meets over multiple decades, I understand.
    Many thanks.
     
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    mtlquattro New Member

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    You are absolutely right about gearing.

    Has anyone running the pedal box? I would be curious to see if someone did some 0-60 times before and after.
     
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    Boosted_Six Active Member

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    I really don't think a pedal box is going to do anything for you.

    From the moment you stage and set launch control to the moment you trap, your foot is at 100% throttle input!
     
  19. mtlquattro

    mtlquattro New Member

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    That was my understanding about the pedal box and I never even bothered to look at them like I mentionned earlier. I had false hope to be proven wrong though!
     
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    I think a downpipe would do well for you next as you have all the required traction.

    Weight reduction would work too but it seems shameful to pull apart such a nicely made interior doesn't it haha
     
  21. mtlquattro

    mtlquattro New Member

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    I would rather add power than reducing weight! On that subject, I have a project coming including a bigger turbo
     
  22. Boosted_Six

    Boosted_Six Active Member

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    How will you manage the big turbo and fuelling? Stand alone ECU?
     
  23. mtlquattro

    mtlquattro New Member

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    I won't go into details here since this thread was started by Andrew. I really respect his product and this thread is about DTUK. I will keep you posted on the evolution of this, i'll start another thread.


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    ABYSS Andrew - Diesel Tuning UK Site Sponsor Team Ara Blue Black Edition S3 Saloon

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    For a limited period we’re offering 15% off the MPT with app control to ASN members, this is an extra 5% over and above our Black for day deal.

    If anyone is interested please drop me a DM with the discount code
     

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