Another 2.0T FSI CCZA Timing Chain Tensioner Advice Thread..

Well Sam,

If it weren`t for bad luck you`d have none.
I would be inclined to fill in the template from Martin Lewis and send it to the dealer you bought the car from as you said its for him to prove the fault did no exist at the time of purchase and to be honest how the hell is he going to do that. I would also give Carter & Carter a call they can add their fee to your claim, I am glad you have at least fingers crossed got your car up and running I cant see you losing any claim after reading the Consumer Rights Act.

Good luck keep us informed
 
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Hi Sam, I've just had my recently bought A3 in at my VAG specialist having everything checked over and all missed service items like DSG & Haldex done. With your thread in mind I asked if I should have the tensioner changed as it's apparently prone to failure, but they said they weren't aware of a problem on the 2.0TFSI CCZA engine, and the tensioner isn't something that is changed routinely or as part of the service schedule - with no unusual noise from my engine there would be no reason to look at it. So it seems that it isn't generally thought of as a service item or wear and tear part, and it will be hard for the dealer who sold you the car to put this forward as a reason not to stand by the car that he sold you a few months ago. I think you'd have a very good case, and you would be treated sympathetically by a claims court, if I were you I'd go the legal route.
All the best
 
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Hi Sam, I've just had my recently bought A3 in at my VAG specialist having everything checked over and all missed service items like DSG & Haldex done. With your thread in mind I asked if I should have the tensioner changed as it's apparently prone to failure, but they said they weren't aware of a problem on the 2.0TFSI CCZA engine, and the tensioner isn't something that is changed routinely or as part of the service schedule - with no unusual noise from my engine there would be no reason to look at it. So it seems that it isn't generally thought of as a service item or wear and tear part, and it will be hard for the dealer who sold you the car to put this forward as a reason not to stand by the car that he sold you a few months ago. I think you'd have a very good case, and you would be treated sympathetically by a claims court, if I were you I'd go the legal route.
All the best

Thanks for this. I'm not suggesting that there is any problem with yours, but mine wasn't making any noise until the preceding journey before it failed. It rattled slightly for less than a second on startup, drove fine with no noise and then the next startup failed. If you have *any* doubts over the quality or frequency of servicing, I would recommend considering having it changed. It probably won't go, but if it does and you're faced with a £4k bill, you'll kick yourself for not having had it done.

I would agree that it's not serviceable, the dilemma is getting someone from Audi to admit that. Otherwise a case is only as strong as the mechanic testifying, and I'm sure the dealer can find a mechanic who would agree with him. Further, if I have to go down the court route I shan't bother, in the long run getting a good degree at Uni will make me more money than what I've lost here. Though, it saddens me that he'd be getting away with it.
 
Hi Sam,

I understand your end and hopefully your motor is now good its a bit of a ****** the dealer can skank you like this but the future is where you need to look.

Good luck with your education and this bit counts for a lot too you will be more astute for it.

Cheers.
Jeffo.
 
Hi Sam,

I understand your end and hopefully your motor is now good its a bit of a ****** the dealer can skank you like this but the future is where you need to look.

Good luck with your education and this bit counts for a lot too you will be more astute for it.

Cheers.
Jeffo.

Hello everyone. Thanks again for all your help so far, I have an update for you all.

I have spoken to two solicitors, including the firm Jeffo mentioned. They advised it would be better to go through the online small claims, as the time it took to research the case wouldn't be recovered.

I heard back from the dealership today, with a goodwill offer of £500. In order to accept this, they want the original copy of the invoice, and a written confirmation of full and final acceptance. I understand the latter, but seems bizarre to request the original invoice, which I would want to keep for my own records anyway..

The online fee for the small claims court is £105. For their offer of £500, which I consider small, it's almost worth putting in front of the Court for the possibility of getting more.

Further, I have been musing over the following business-philosophical idea;- The dealer knows I wont be returning to buy any more cars from him. Realistically, if I was going to horrendously slander him on the internet (which I must say that I would never do), this goodwill would not prevent one from doing so. So, should I have such a poor case against him, why wouldn't he offer me *even* less? This tempts me to putting it before a Court.
 
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A sad tale indeed, and why I'm willing pay that little extra to buy my cars from Main Dealers - "peace of mind" has a price. Mine has the CCZA engine and has now done 72000 miles without issue (knock on wood). I bought it at 27000 and always had the services done on time. The problem with these engines is they tune so readily that some owners will push a remap to S3 levels, then forget (or not care) the engine components are not designed to take that kind of punishment long term! Removing the map after the engine has become used to it can sometimes cause issues in itself, and you can't undo prematurely worn components anyway.

The seller may not have known, or have been aware, of any problems when he sold you the car, it's true! But he is still liable for the full cost of the repair (or a full refund) whether he knew about it or not. Don't give him the invoice unless he agrees to pay the entirety of the costs. Keep it for your records, and if you decide to pursue him at a later date you'll have evidence of your expenditure! Without it, you can prove nothing. Let him know you're going to report him to the ombudsman, then leave him to sweat on it. There are a lot of sharks out there that will take advantage of a "gentle" approach, and it sounds like he's one such person. Personally, After trying and failing with the softly, softly approach, I wouldn't have paid to fix it! I'd have had it dumped on his forecourt (still broken), taken pictures (to log the condition and mileage) and let him know in no uncertain terms, I want a full refund.

Since you're not going to accept his £500 offer, you might as well get the ball rolling by naming and shaming him - especially on any social media site he's linked to! Once a few people let him know they've heard of his shady dealings, he may decide to try to save his reputation before it goes completely to hell ...but at the moment he has no reason to alter his position because it seems like you're maybe giving up.

Ho hum, we live and learn. I really hope the car is now running sweet and it's a good few years before you have to spend any more cash on it, so at least you can start to feel like you're getting some VFM.

Good Luck.