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After a little guidance really as it's so easy to start ticking all the boxes and end up with a car that's in for a huge whack of depreciation as a result.

Panoramic Sunroof? Is it worth it? For those of you who have it on PFL RS3's would you spec it again? If going for the black style look with black pack and privacy, I think the Pan roof really compliments the theme. Nice inside too with more natural light in the car and a good addition to have I think. There will be a slight weight, performance and fuel economy impact though, I'm sure it adds 30kg to the weight of the car.

Sports Exhaust? Again, another question to those PFL owners, do you rate it as a must have and would you rate it over the Pan Roof above? Is it that much better than the standard exhaust? I tend to tune my cars and as a result the exhaust is usually changed or modified. I actually prefer the chrome exhaust tips to the black exhaust tips (They can get lost in the lower bumper from afar) Noise wise? Now I know the exhaust pops and bangs are a new novelty for some but they can get a little irritating after a while. Case in point with this tit..



It's just shouting out loud chav to me, especially as he is coming off part throttle over and over again with no need too, it's no different to the old saxo's with drain pipe exhausts. Now I have pops and bangs in the RS6 in the same way but they aren't as pronounced and as loud as that (Thank god) Is this guy in the video running just a sports exhaust or is that a modified exhaust? Can you PFL owners tell the difference? Is your own car with sports exhaust like the car above? Or is the standard exhaust too quiet and subdued and doesn't really give you that full 5cyl roar making the Sports exhaust a must?

Comfort Pack? B&O, now I've had it now in nearly all my past Audi's and to be honest I've never been wowed by it. I've sat in the same car side beside with an Audi sound system and tried to pick up on any improvements and although the B&O does go louder without distortion it's at a level where the volume is too loud for your ears anyway and would only draw attention to you like the exhaust above. The illumination around the speakers is a nice touch though.
Advanced key, there are obviously security concerns with the key but does the key itself actually differ in any way to the standard key? Is it the old Audi black key that's been around for a while or is it a dedicated RS fob?
Hill hold assist, always had it but not sure I'd miss it, an auto car doesn't really roll back anyway
Reversing cam, can see the benefit I suppose but with rear sensors, you'd have to be pretty useless at parking to ever need the camera to avoid a collision.

Mag Ride? Had it in my old TTRS, but again, wasn't wowed by the difference it made, is it that much better in the RS3, is there a noticeable difference between a car that has it and that a car that does not? Has anyone done any back to backs? In cars that don't have it, do certain drive select modes respond to these modes by softening/firming up the suspension or is this only available through mag ride?

I'll ideally pick 2 of the 4 options above but not sure which 2 to choose, how would you rate the 4 options above, do you have all 4 options and would rate 1 over the other, preference for a certain option etc?

I could of course spec them all and just be done with it but have a figure in my mind that I don't really want to go above to keep depreciation under control.

Cheers.
 
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I honestly can't tell the difference between comfort and dynamic with the mag ride. I'd not bother speccing it, but others swear by it.

Hill hold is a little gem. Had it on my Golf R. It means you can take your foot off the brake pedal in traffic. Doesn't sound like much but it was really annoying when I got my RS3. It also allows you to control it stop/start activates by pushing the brake pedal a little harder. A bargain at £70 and should be standard IMO.

I find the B&O sound ok. Not amazing but does the job.

I don't have the pano roof. It's about the only option of note that mine is missing. Ideally I would have it. Brightens the interior and you can hear that glorious engine even better.

The sports exhaust is a must. Even Aoon has gone back to the Audi sports exhaust, saying that it just can't be beaten. In comfort it's as quiet as a 1.4TFSI. In Dynamic it is raw! The guy in the video has definitely had his car modified. It pops and crackles but not ridiculously like that.
 
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Here's my 2p ;)

Panoramic Roof:
Didn't spec it on mine, but having seen it in the metal on other cars I would probably spec it, if I could go back in time. 30kg is not that much of a weight penalty, just drive with half a tank of fuel instead of a full one ;)

Sports Exhaust:
MUST HAVE! This turns the car into a real Jekyl and Hyde. Perfectly quiet in comfort, a monster in dynamic. If you spec it, every tunnel you find and you will do the same as the guy in the clip.

Mag Ride:
Wouldn't be without it. On smooth roads it doesn't feel that different, but on bumpy roads the difference is clear, especially if carrying passengers. Selected with the Drive select, comfort/auto/individual/dynamic. You can set it in the individual mode too, So if you wanted comfort mag ride and dynamic steering (for example) then no problem.

Comfort Pack:
I have B&O and really like it, but I have not heard the Audi sound system to compare so could be a bit of bias...
Hill Hold: do not have it and not something I feel is needed.
Camera: parking sensors are more than enough for me. First car I have ever had with them and get a decent graphic of objects on the MMI screen.
Advanced Key: Didn't spec it and discovered (on collecting the car!) that it was standard in Poland. I believe the key fob looks the same as the standard one, has the "flip out" key portion. You can use the push buttons as you would on a non-advanced key to lock/unlock.

See pic for the key fob...
 

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Would definitely get pan roof again. That's one of my fav options as you can listen to the exhaust popping and banging away. Sports exhaust is must as well as the comfort pack. I wasn't fussed with mag ride but then again i always change the suspension on my Audi's anyway :)
 
@D0C I don't have hill hold but can still control the stop start by pressing hard on the brake when stopped?

Pan roof? For wimps as too heavy ;)

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The only thing out of your list which I wouldn't pay extra for now is the B&O from a Sound point of view.
Never had B&O before and was looking forward to it but it am disappointed. I was kind of expecting it would compete with the system in the Bentley but it's not even in the same sport, never mind league.

The only caveat to all of this and what others have posted is future residuals. Sometimes it is not about what you really, really want or don't want but what the majority of people EXPECT on the car when you eventually come to sell it.

On THAT basis, I would say, in this order, Sports Exhaust, Pan Roof, Mag Ride, B&O (still a selling point to those who had my expectations)
 
To be fair, the Bentley sound system should be superior to an Audi A3's £500 option!
 
Sunroof I cannot comment on.
Sports exhaust is a must.
Comfort pack-for me is a waste of money. You'll be listening to the car not the radio.
Mag ride not sure. I only drive it in dynamic and it feels good to me. Never driven one without it.
 
Pan Roof? Not for me.

Sports Exhaust? A must. Not only will it sound better, but may liberate a few BHP

Comfort Pack. Not for me as it has advanced keyless go. Will never spec this on a car. Bloke on another forum I go on, just had his 911 Turbo nicked without keys because of this system. Will spec B&O, Hill hold separately. Don't need a camera, as it has beeps, and I can park.

Mag Ride. I don't want to spec it, as I hate it on my S3. But need to drive one without, which will be hard as every dealer car will have it. Will wait for reviews on UK roads before deciding
 
To be fair, the Bentley sound system should be superior to an Audi A3's £500 option!

... and it is...

Still, I've grown up believing Bang & Olufsen was the #1 in mass-produced sound production so I was actually expecting it to be as good.
Oh well... :)
 
Comfort Pack. Not for me as it has advanced keyless go. Will never spec this on a car. Bloke on another forum I go on, just had his 911 Turbo nicked without keys because of this system. Will spec B&O, Hill hold separately. Don't need a camera, as it has beeps, and I can park.
Perfectly summarises my comfort pack thoughts to be honest, would rather avoid keyless go.
 
The only caveat to all of this and what others have posted is future residuals. Sometimes it is not about what you really, really want or don't want but what the majority of people EXPECT on the car when you eventually come to sell it.

In the past Audi used to adjust their GFV to compensate for higher specced cars. This does not happen anymore, even if you spec your RS3 upto £60k, Audi will only guarantee the value at the same £26k (3yrs) that the bog standard £45k RS3 is also guaranteed at.

90% of other garages will only ever give you trade price regardless of spec, be that bare minimum or fully loaded.

Spec is good in the used private market and those specialist car buyer companies such as GC Motors etc but selling a car in this price range privately is extremely difficult. Specialist buying companies need to turn a profit too so although you may get slightly higher than trade price for good spec, they'll still fall well short of what the car is worth.

Options are wasted for initial buyers but dealers of course love them as they then justify their over book prices by highlighting "high spec" "fully loaded" etc

Biggest con in the car game if you ask me and Audi are masters at it by offering very basic spec cars and forcing the customer to buy options.

For the RS3 for example, the standard S Line leather interior is criminal, the Supersports are a must before anything else is ticked. As is the one free colour choice and one alloy wheel choice.
 
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Completely agree. The amount/cost of options you more or less have to pick are ludicrous.
 
Nono, the system in our Bentley is AMAZING.
It is the best music quality I have ever heard, anywhere.
Has the quality of being there at a classical concert or the power of being near a speaker at a dance music Ibiza nightclub.
The DSP is very clever.
It sounds as good roof off as roof on.

I have no idea what make it is. I was told it was 7K alone! We didn;t spec the car, bought second hand.
It's a W12 GTC.

Do Audi do different levels of B&O then? Not heard the R8 one.
 
A8, and possibly other larger ones, have a higher wattage. Still not a patch on BMW.
Bentley uses Naim. Totally different ball game.
 
After a little guidance really as it's so easy to start ticking all the boxes and end up with a car that's in for a huge whack of depreciation as a result.

Panoramic Sunroof? Is it worth it? For those of you who have it on PFL RS3's would you spec it again? If going for the black style look with black pack and privacy, I think the Pan roof really compliments the theme. Nice inside too with more natural light in the car and a good addition to have I think. There will be a slight weight, performance and fuel economy impact though, I'm sure it adds 30kg to the weight of the car.

Sports Exhaust? Again, another question to those PFL owners, do you rate it as a must have and would you rate it over the Pan Roof above? Is it that much better than the standard exhaust? I tend to tune my cars and as a result the exhaust is usually changed or modified. I actually prefer the chrome exhaust tips to the black exhaust tips (They can get lost in the lower bumper from afar) Noise wise? Now I know the exhaust pops and bangs are a new novelty for some but they can get a little irritating after a while. Case in point with this tit..



It's just shouting out loud chav to me, especially as he is coming off part throttle over and over again with no need too, it's no different to the old saxo's with drain pipe exhausts. Now I have pops and bangs in the RS6 in the same way but they aren't as pronounced and as loud as that (Thank god) Is this guy in the video running just a sports exhaust or is that a modified exhaust? Can you PFL owners tell the difference? Is your own car with sports exhaust like the car above? Or is the standard exhaust too quiet and subdued and doesn't really give you that full 5cyl roar making the Sports exhaust a must?

Comfort Pack? B&O, now I've had it now in nearly all my past Audi's and to be honest I've never been wowed by it. I've sat in the same car side beside with an Audi sound system and tried to pick up on any improvements and although the B&O does go louder without distortion it's at a level where the volume is too loud for your ears anyway and would only draw attention to you like the exhaust above. The illumination around the speakers is a nice touch though.
Advanced key, there are obviously security concerns with the key but does the key itself actually differ in any way to the standard key? Is it the old Audi black key that's been around for a while or is it a dedicated RS fob?
Hill hold assist, always had it but not sure I'd miss it, an auto car doesn't really roll back anyway
Reversing cam, can see the benefit I suppose but with rear sensors, you'd have to be pretty useless at parking to ever need the camera to avoid a collision.

Mag Ride? Had it in my old TTRS, but again, wasn't wowed by the difference it made, is it that much better in the RS3, is there a noticeable difference between a car that has it and that a car that does not? Has anyone done any back to backs? In cars that don't have it, do certain drive select modes respond to these modes by softening/firming up the suspension or is this only available through mag ride?

I'll ideally pick 2 of the 4 options above but not sure which 2 to choose, how would you rate the 4 options above, do you have all 4 options and would rate 1 over the other, preference for a certain option etc?

I could of course spec them all and just be done with it but have a figure in my mind that I don't really want to go above to keep depreciation under control.

Cheers.



Well we all have different views but on my PFL RS3 (was it really a facelift worth having??) my comments are as follows:

Panoramic Roof. Wonderful option, have had it on pretty much all my Audis.. lightens the interior and on a summers day cruising opening it up is just wonderful!

Sports Exhaust. My standard exhaust is just fine and you can make it pop and bang if you want to show off. Neighbours regularly comment on how nice my car sounds but I do live in a neighbourhood of petrol-heads!! Was not aware that exhaust tips were black with sports exhaust. They weren't on PFL for sure.

B & O - wonderful!
Advanced key - not the be all and end all but nice to have ( I haven't on RS3 as not worth it as individual option on PFL)
Key is old key with RS on it!
Mag ride - again on PFL I've tried it with noisier exhaust and couldn't really tell the difference.
Reverse Camera.. I have it and miss on my B9 Avant! So yes I like that one!
Hill hold always!

As for the post above suggesting the RS3 has standard SLine seats, that's just ********!


On FL Model I would go for Pano Roof and Comfort and sound pack

Mythos or Panther Black and Black Pack and Privacy is the way to go and used FL models like this are worth about 5K over base models. ;-)
 
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Well we all have different views but on my PFL RS3 (was it really a facelift worth having??) my comments are as follows:

Panoramic Roof. Wonderful option, have had it on pretty much all my Audis.. lightens the interior and on a summers day cruising opening it up is just wonderful!

Sports Exhaust. My standard exhaust is just fine and you can make it pop and bang if you want to show off. Neighbours regularly comment on how nice my car sounds but I do live in a neighbourhood of petrol-heads!! Was not aware that exhaust tips were black with sports exhaust. They weren't on PFL for sure.

B & O - wonderful!
Advanced key - not the be all and end all but nice to have ( I haven't on RS3 as not worth it as individual option on PFL)
Key is old key with RS on it!
Mag ride - again on PFL I've tried it with noisier exhaust and couldn't really tell the difference.
Reverse Camera.. I have it and miss on my B9 Avant! So yes I like that one!
Hill hold always!

As for the post above suggesting the RS3 has standard SLine seats, that's just ********!


On FL Model I would go for Pano Roof and Comfort and sound pack

Black and Black Pack and Privacy is the way to go and used FL models like this are worth about 5K over base models. ;-)
Does Panther black with black pack and privacy glass also command £5k over base?! ;)
 
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The standard RS seats are the exact same seats that you can find in a 1.6 TDI version of the A3 (Albeit with the leather interior option ticked) The Standard S3 leather interior is the same as the standard RS leather interior.

The Supersports should have been standard fit in my opinion. Same way they are in the TTRS. The RS3 inside can potentially look exactly the same as a 1.6TDI A3 inside if you choose the leather seats in the 1.6
 
Absolutely not! I have RS3 and the seats have RS3 logo and different leather style/type insert that standard S Line leather. S3 also is different and we've had one of them too. Dials and gauges are very different in Tdi ans S3 in comparison to RS3. As for wanting SS seats, I chose not to have them in my RS3 as I find the standard RS3 sports seats very comfortable.
 
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Absolutely not! I have RS3 and the seats have RS3 logo and different leather style/type insert that standard S Line leather. S3 also is different and we've had one of them too. Dials and gauges are very different in Tdi ans S3 in comparison to RS3. As for wanting SS seats, I chose not to have them in my RS3 as I find the standard RS3 sports seats very comfortable.

Yes, obviously the logos on the seats are different between S and RS, that's a given. However, the seats look exactly the same to me be that on a 1.6TDi to a 2.5T RS...

1.6 TDI S Line Leather (Optional)

IMG 8125

S3 (standard)

IMG 8126

RS3 (Standard)

IMG 8127

Apologies for the sidewards images, phone save and upload.

For me the SS had to be the first option box ticked, an RS model should feel special and not feel like a 1.6 TDI with leather interior. Horses for courses though, many people like yourself may prefer the basic leather interior for reasons of comfort etc. For me though, it just didn't feel or look good enough. No rights no wrongs, there's reasons why they are options ;)
 
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Back to the original question. I do not have an RS but have had cars with a pan roof including my current SUV. In the SUV it's very nice as the car is black and the interior is black and it definitely brightens the interior. I can however count on the fingers of one hand how many times we have had the sunroof open as it's quite noisy.
Last year we drove down to Southern Spain and had the roof blind closed most of the time as it was simply too hot.
For a performance saloon there is also the fact that the centre of gravity of the car will change with the extra weight, probably insignificant for most people in terms of ultimate performance in the same vein as mag ride
 
The seats may at first glance look similar in all Audis. The RS3 leather on SS is unique. Frankly I don't care if RS3 looks like a 1.6tdi ...it sure doesn't drive or handle like one. An ideal Q car!
 
Back to the original question. I do not have an RS but have had cars with a pan roof including my current SUV. In the SUV it's very nice as the car is black and the interior is black and it definitely brightens the interior. I can however count on the fingers of one hand how many times we have had the sunroof open as it's quite noisy.
Last year we drove down to Southern Spain and had the roof blind closed most of the time as it was simply too hot.
For a performance saloon there is also the fact that the centre of gravity of the car will change with the extra weight, probably insignificant for most people in terms of ultimate performance in the same vein as mag ride

If you are worried about the weight of a Pano Roof you might as well forget any options that add weight. The car is so quick it is actually so insignificant in daily use.
 
Personally I am not worried at all because I am not having one just offering an opinion.
 
If anyone was that bothered about the extra 30kg the pano roof adds, they should get a Caterham instead. The RS3 isn't exactly the last word in lightweight construction!
 
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If weight is not a concern maybe Audi should have not wasted all that money developing the new engine and making it 25 kgs (approx) lighter.
 
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I personally think they've made it lighter so you can spec a pan roof and be back up to fighting weight :whistle2::whistle2:
 
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If weight is not a concern maybe Audi should have not wasted all that money developing the new engine and making it 25 kgs (approx) lighter.
Fair point. But the new engine is about more than just it being a bit lighter. In addition, with the engine it is weight that is slung over the front axle, not helping the cars handling. Even so, it's still not a light car.
 
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Fair point. But the new engine is about more than just it being a bit lighter. In addition, with the engine it is weight that is slung over the front axle, not helping the cars handling. Even so, it's still not a light car.

I don't think Audi developed this new engine with weight saving being the ultimate priority, that's very unlikely. I think overall they wanted to bring the 5 cylinder a little more up to date, so it has better stats on paper (which we all know it had on the PFL anyway). They didn't need to build the engine from the ground up to achieve those figures however though and they know that, so who knows. I'm not sure whether the 400PS car will perform above spec like the 367PS, or maybe it will just achieve what is stated.

As a bonus the whole engine package is lighter and aids handling, supposedly. Less weight over the front wheels has to be a good thing, supposedly the new car is more taught but I can't see it being noticeable to any of us, certainly not those who haven't lived with a PFL anyway.
 
I'd love to have a drive in a FL to see how big the differences are. However, if I loved it I might want one over my PFL and realistically the cost of changing I doubt would be worth it.

I'm more inclined to spend some cash on lowering and widening the stance a little bit and getting a remap.
 
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I'd love to have a drive in a FL to see how big the differences are. However, if I loved it I might want one over my PFL and realistically the cost of changing I doubt would be worth it.

I'm more inclined to spend some cash on lowering and widening the stance a little bit and getting a remap.

Well it would be interesting to hear the difference but honestly, I would be amazed if any of you were won over to the point that you felt the need to change. The FL is great in the way that it's brought LED lights instead of Xenon to lower cars, all cars have the 7" MMI display now which transforms the interior. It's little touches like the lighting pack standard etc, but they really aren't a world apart and I would genuinely be surprised if any of you felt the need to change on the way it drives alone.
 
I changed the tyres and added a different rear ARB which made a big difference to handling.

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I changed the tyres and added a different rear ARB which made a big difference to handling.

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What tyres have you gone for? I had the Conti Sport 5's on the S3 and they were horrendous, changed to Pirelli and they are a world apart.. much better tyre, gives a lot more confidence and quieter too which they weren't supposed to be.
 
I'ved just changed my front tyres.

I was expecting to have to replace all 4 in which case I would have gone for Goodyear or Michelin.

But the rears still had 5mm and condition excellent so I just went for 2 x new Pirelli RO2 again.

I've read that Pirelli revised the tyres within the last year so I will see how these go / wear / compare.
 
What tyres have you gone for? I had the Conti Sport 5's on the S3 and they were horrendous, changed to Pirelli and they are a world apart.. much better tyre, gives a lot more confidence and quieter too which they weren't supposed to be.
Pirelli is / was OE and I hated them! Went to MPSS as soon as they were low enough. Great tyre imho.

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Pirelli is / was OE and I hated them! Went to MPSS as soon as they were low enough. Great tyre imho.

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The configurator shows either Dunlop's / Michelin but all of the press cars are Pirelli. The thing is with the Pirelli, they look awesome with the kerb protection. That and the cost of Michelin talked me out of them, well I talked myself out of Michelin with those points haha.
 
And now that Pirelli are rolling out their 'colour edition', I think we will see plenty more Pirellis again...
 
And now that Pirelli are rolling out their 'colour edition', I think we will see plenty more Pirellis again...

With the customised side walls? Tyre writing looks cool on motorbikes, but cars? Audi's? Nah :lmfao:
 

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