Noticeable difference after about 1200 miles or just the engine feeling a bit looser?
S3 or Golf R or even an S1?
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Noticeable difference after about 1200 miles or just the engine feeling a bit looser?
I love Ford's heated windscreens, we had one on the Fiesta and I retrofitted one to the Cougar. It's something I really miss on the Audi.
The Golf R has that option, one I was trying to find on the S3.
Would say the engine feels more acquainted now.
Would say the engine feels more acquainted now.
I will tell you why. It's because a large number if golf r cars are leased. I posted an amazing deal several months ago on hotukdeals for a golf r on a two year lease at 180 plus vat for 10k miles, approx 1200 deposit. So over 2 years it cost less than 7k. Lots of idiots got them it seems. Great cars, wife may get one as the r like the s3 is understated. Still reckon vag have made a big mistake. Why make such similar cars
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Good luck if you can still find such a deal for your wife. Those deals several months ago were business only. Much later a new campaign was run where private individuals were able to apply as well.
I do think it is rather funny to suggest that people who took up a fantastic deal are idiots. I can't see the correlation.
Me neither
Very much sounds a s tho' your trolling to me, again V8That's Audi drivers for you, they paint such generalisations
Definition of a troll from Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
You do so much good on ASN V8 but then spoil it all by constantly berating not only the Audi brand and their drivers, but also the S3 models. This is an Audi forum if you haven't forgot
No car is without flaws mate, S3, Golf R, Cayman, Veyron the list goes on
We all get your point, you think the S3 is *****. Any chance to say so in any thread, there you are berating it AGAIN. We know your opinions on Audi's and S3's V8 *** give it a rest, please
But what really surprises me is that you've spent your hard earned and bought a S3. I said it another thread and I'll say it again. If they're so bad why haven't you sold yours & bought something you consider 'better'
I along with a lot of other new & not so new ASN members are really excited about our current S3 and anticipated S3's, but to be constantly reminded at every turn how bad/***** our purchase is/was is a bit galling TBH
I am a member of a Golf R forum (not on there as much for obvious reasons) and I can't remember anyone being so anti S3 on there as you and you own a S3!
I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but really V8 ....
Can't say I disagree with any of that. V8 does make some helpful contributions to the forum sometimes though (eg. FAQ/Search Police) 
AgreedCan't say I disagree with any of that. V8 does make some helpful contributions to the forum sometimes though (eg. FAQ/Search Police)
The FAQ post's V8 has done are top notch!
& some of the more in depth replies he has given to in thread questions are very informed
That's Audi drivers for you, they paint such generalisations
Errrrmmm.............
Sorry if it was a little too subtle for you...... but......
That was meant to be an ironic statement, as opposed to a trolling statement !!!!
(Me, Audi Driver, making a vast generalisation..... !! )
(I think you were a little too hasty there and jumped down my throat a bit quick!)
No car is perfect, neither is the S3, it has many plus points, and some negative points!
But, as pointed out by a few on here, some S3 owners are pre-disposed to blindly believing that it's the best thing since sliced bread. Yes I have spent my ££ on it, but really is no reason to fool myself by blindly saying it's perfect, it's far from it!
Most of what I post is pretty factual, so what if the occasional view that I have is negative? There are plenty of forum members who love their S3's and this balances out the information here on this forum.
This is my 3rd Audi, I don't think anyone can accuse me of not liking the brand and being slightly loyal, but honest at the same time! Why haven't I sold my S3 and gone for something better? Well, maybe the R400 may tempt me, but for the time being, I'm not prepared to lose out in depreciation! have to say though, love the growls from the AMGs.
The last thing we want on this forum is for it to go all Apple-like with devoted followers, and sycophantic. Ugh. Just ugh.
I will admit, sometimes the temptation is too great, and I have to interrject with a "wtf" - eg: in the mono.pur thread ! I mean, seriously !
May I suggest that maybe you and some others are overly sensitive to any swipes against S3's, either by myself or others? I don't think you'll find me starting any threads slating S3's ?
Nor will you find unsolicited comments from me about S3's or Golf R's or AMG's, that someone already hasn't posted a barbed comment about, at me. I'm just responding to the hate out there
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That's fair enough, but please remember it's not just your forum to shape or moderate. I sometimes think you're trying too hard to balance the 'fanboys' posts. There will be discussions that you can't bear or have heard a million times, feel free to skip them
My 2 cents.
My 2 cents.
Similarly, there will be posts from those that find the S3 disappointing, one could also skip them, and just hear what you want to !
I do think that in a thread titled "S3 vs Golf R", it's fair game!
I do think that in a thread titled "S3 vs Golf R", it's fair game!
Just to reinforce veeeights comments - I do feel the forum benefits from a bit of balance. I love my S3 - at the price point it sits at (and for what I can afford) I believe there are few better cars considering what you get. However, it does have its flaws and myself (amongst others) have tried to give a balanced view of these flaws and what that means when driving it / living with it.
Remember - many people use this forum as a place to weigh up a (usually) emotional purchase, hence why I like there to be some rough with the smooth. We have all been in that boat before placing an order I'm sure and are glad to know all about a car (good and bad) before we do it.
Remember - many people use this forum as a place to weigh up a (usually) emotional purchase, hence why I like there to be some rough with the smooth. We have all been in that boat before placing an order I'm sure and are glad to know all about a car (good and bad) before we do it.
Why not all just for for the Seat. Surely Auto Express can't be that wrong
The Leon Cupra - Oft described as "the thinking man's hot hatch"
Go wash your mouth young manThe Leon Cupra - Oft described as "the thinking man's hot hatch"
Surely that has to be an ultra cheap VW Golf R
Don't want to fall out V8, but I feel I have to reply
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree
Nope, not too subtle at all. Its just what I expect from you at the moment
The trolling statement I made wasn't just in relation to that statement mateThat was meant to be an ironic statement, as opposed to a trolling statement !!!!
(Me, Audi Driver, making a vast generalisation..... !! )
(I think you were a little too hasty there and jumped down my throat a bit quick!)
Not really. Just had to comment to your 'generalisation'
We agree on something V8
V8 you must resist, must resist lol
However, the mono.put thread did make me laugh, a lot lol
No you don't start them agreed. But by hell your in there like a flash lol
Not sensitive, just you do go on a bit how bad the S3's are mate. You do
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree
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Bristle, I don't wish to fall out either.
I'm not sure why you're choosing to make it about me, one lone voice in a forum full of opinions and views.
But I can't help but think that you have a slightly skewed view at the moment?
Maybe of me, or Internet foruns in general.
I've been part of the 8P forum, and lately the 8V forum.
The 8V forum does seem to be a little precious at times, compared with the 8P forum. And Pistonheads is a different league altogether. As is TTOC.
Only this week, an 8P ASN poster was complaining (in the 8P forum) that he/she was flamed in the 8V forum for mooting a different view of the 8V S3/RS3.
Not exactlt a great commendation !
I'm not sure why you're choosing to make it about me, one lone voice in a forum full of opinions and views.
But I can't help but think that you have a slightly skewed view at the moment?
Maybe of me, or Internet foruns in general.
I've been part of the 8P forum, and lately the 8V forum.
The 8V forum does seem to be a little precious at times, compared with the 8P forum. And Pistonheads is a different league altogether. As is TTOC.
Only this week, an 8P ASN poster was complaining (in the 8P forum) that he/she was flamed in the 8V forum for mooting a different view of the 8V S3/RS3.
Not exactlt a great commendation !
Well said!Me neither
Very much sounds a s tho' your trolling to me, again V8
Definition of a troll from Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
You do so much good on ASN V8 but then spoil it all by constantly berating not only the Audi brand and their drivers, but also the S3 models. This is an Audi forum if you haven't forgot
No car is without flaws mate, S3, Golf R, Cayman, Veyron the list goes on
We all get your point, you think the S3 is *****. Any chance to say so in any thread, there you are berating it AGAIN. We know your opinions on Audi's and S3's V8 *** give it a rest, please
But what really surprises me is that you've spent your hard earned and bought a S3. I said it another thread and I'll say it again. If they're so bad why haven't you sold yours & bought something you consider 'better'
I along with a lot of other new & not so new ASN members are really excited about our current S3 and anticipated S3's, but to be constantly reminded at every turn how bad/***** our purchase is/was is a bit galling TBH
I am a member of a Golf R forum (not on there as much for obvious reasons) and I can't remember anyone being so anti S3 on there as you and you own a S3!
I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but really V8 ....
Good to see you're feeling brave enough to jump on a bandwagon
An Internet forum bandwagon at that. Proper keyboard warrior
Well done.
Good to see you're feeling brave enough to jump on a bandwagon
An Internet forum bandwagon at that. Proper keyboard warrior
Well done.
Just agreed with BH. Seems like someone is still bitter
yawnnnn! Get over it mate.
Just agreed with BH. Seems like someone is still bitter
Who is bitter? You?
I've got nothing to be bitter about.
"Get over it"?
Seriously?
It was rather unnecessary, not to mention late, following explanations and reaching a mutual understanding.Just agreed with BH. Seems like someone is still bitter
Neatly on point and demonstrating the comments made. I don't get why it all has to be so negative and competitive. Dare I say almost like rforum
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Personal view is that you're all entitled to think WTF you like about any car, Audi or otherwise. Where I (and I'm sure others take issue) is where it gets personal. Don't knock each other for your respective views, respect each others opinions, and whether you like them or not; accommodate them.
I think there is a real risk in these 'modern' times that people feel the need to become hyper-offended if people hold an opposing viewpoint. People should learn to be comfortable with diversity. If we get to a point where people are enforced to conform to similar views we don't have to look back too far in history to see what kind of collectives that can spawn. Debate openly, even furiously(!), but keep it objective as healthy debate helps open everyones eyes.
Anyway, time to add my two penneth. I went out to buy an S3 8V last December and came home with an S5 as I personally didn't feel the evolution of the MQB platform delivered the benefits over the 8P I'd expected. I'd had 2 8P's, both modified because they had some pretty unpleasant handling shortcomings, but with a bit of effort and cash you could work around these issues to deliver a fun(ish) car. Steering was always the biggest achilles heel, and I never managed to get the car set up to give me real confidence as to where the transition was between grip and no grip. I therefore fancied a change so went with the S5, and despite it being a near 7 year old platform, with the sports diff, adaptive dampers and dynamic steering it's just about passable and doesn't suffer the same level of understeer I got with the S3. It's no drivers car from factory granted, much more GT tourer, but then not many Audi's are in my opinion. As a brand they're one of the safest ways to make cross country progress safely with a good turn of pace, but if you want outright fun go somewhere else. I'd have a Cayman if I didn't need space and rear seats, but unfortunately I do. The S5 offered a lot of tuning potential (+100bhp for £2k) and a bucket load of convenience for reasonable money, and provided change after a run of 8 hot hatches.
If I had to buy an S3 I'd go for the saloon. I used to have a Mk2 Jetta in the 90s and it's handling was so much more neutral and manageable than the hatch shaped Golf's. I wonder if the S3 saloon may also have this better balance with more overhang over the rear axle. Haven't driven one yet (only driven SB S3's), but I still think the S3 is a very nice car, just not hugely entertaining.
If I can appeal to your EI, be pleasant to each other, it costs nothing. Objective discussion is what makes a forum a quality environment, otherwise we just ruin it for ourselves and everyone else. Thank you. As you were!
I think there is a real risk in these 'modern' times that people feel the need to become hyper-offended if people hold an opposing viewpoint. People should learn to be comfortable with diversity. If we get to a point where people are enforced to conform to similar views we don't have to look back too far in history to see what kind of collectives that can spawn. Debate openly, even furiously(!), but keep it objective as healthy debate helps open everyones eyes.
Anyway, time to add my two penneth. I went out to buy an S3 8V last December and came home with an S5 as I personally didn't feel the evolution of the MQB platform delivered the benefits over the 8P I'd expected. I'd had 2 8P's, both modified because they had some pretty unpleasant handling shortcomings, but with a bit of effort and cash you could work around these issues to deliver a fun(ish) car. Steering was always the biggest achilles heel, and I never managed to get the car set up to give me real confidence as to where the transition was between grip and no grip. I therefore fancied a change so went with the S5, and despite it being a near 7 year old platform, with the sports diff, adaptive dampers and dynamic steering it's just about passable and doesn't suffer the same level of understeer I got with the S3. It's no drivers car from factory granted, much more GT tourer, but then not many Audi's are in my opinion. As a brand they're one of the safest ways to make cross country progress safely with a good turn of pace, but if you want outright fun go somewhere else. I'd have a Cayman if I didn't need space and rear seats, but unfortunately I do. The S5 offered a lot of tuning potential (+100bhp for £2k) and a bucket load of convenience for reasonable money, and provided change after a run of 8 hot hatches.
If I had to buy an S3 I'd go for the saloon. I used to have a Mk2 Jetta in the 90s and it's handling was so much more neutral and manageable than the hatch shaped Golf's. I wonder if the S3 saloon may also have this better balance with more overhang over the rear axle. Haven't driven one yet (only driven SB S3's), but I still think the S3 is a very nice car, just not hugely entertaining.
If I can appeal to your EI, be pleasant to each other, it costs nothing. Objective discussion is what makes a forum a quality environment, otherwise we just ruin it for ourselves and everyone else. Thank you. As you were!
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Warren, as ever, you bring clarity to a foggy situation!
You are missed on the 8P 8V forums !
Thank you.
You are missed on the 8P 8V forums !
Thank you.
Dare I say almost like rforum
Some poor chap over there has just posted his 1000 mile review, and dared to list some negative points, oh boy, the abuse he's had! Been called a troll, called out for being plain wrong, and the usual "your car must be broken" all trotted out within 2 pages!
Heaven forbid that ASN turns out to be like that
WHAT? - the Golf R is not perfect?Some poor chap over there has just posted his 1000 mile review, and dared to list some negative points, oh boy, the abuse he's had! Been called a troll, called out for being plain wrong, and the usual "your car must be broken" all trotted out within 2 pages!
Heaven forbid that ASN turns out to be like that
Don't believe it
Lol
That thread is quite amusing. Also had a Golf R driver claiming to have left a Cayman for dust, who "couldn't keep up" and "looked glacial by comparison"
Don't you just love Internet forums !
That thread is quite amusing. Also had a Golf R driver claiming to have left a Cayman for dust, who "couldn't keep up" and "looked glacial by comparison"
Don't you just love Internet forums !
They are both super rapid the R & S3 but I have been smoked a few times. Has to be expected.
That R forum does have some massive fan boys - I think a number of good to excellent car mag reviews have bolstered its mythical reputational of greatness.
That R forum does have some massive fan boys - I think a number of good to excellent car mag reviews have bolstered its mythical reputational of greatness.
Yes, if you're not in the right gear at the right time in the S3 or R, you'll get smoked
And especially, don't take on a BMW 335D.
And especially, don't take on a BMW 335D.
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Yes, if you're not in the right gear at the right time in the S3 or R, you'll get smoked
And especially, don't take on a BMW 335D.
Or fat men in stg1+ S5's! Actually if S3 had remap it would be very close, but obviously we'd be glacial against a stock Golf R ;-)
If I get beat by an R I can blame the weight disadvantage of Mono-Pur 
