Wheels

[Pro-cookie]

Would 19 inch alloys from a 2013 A6 c6 fit my 2007 A4 B7? Or would the pitch and offset be completely wrong? They are the original Audi alloys the A6 sline had.

 

[Ricky Burrows]

If there the le mans style wheel then yes they will for but the offset is high, id recommend a wheel spacer I'm sure the offset is 45 but ideally you want to being that down to 35ish to have a nice flush fit so take into count money for some hubcentric wheel spacers and longer bolts, just be careful as most spacers come with tapered bolts as its an oem wheel you need radius.

 

[Charlie Farley]

They will be the same width as mine so , 8.5j x19" with an offset of ET45.
You will be requiring spigot rings as they are not the same size centre bore as A4 B7 platform.
when buying spacers just remember to factor in you are going from an 8j 18" to a 8.5j 19" as it will be relavant.

 

[Ricky Burrows]

Id go for 10mm spacer bring it down to 35et for an 8.5j 15mm spacers and lowered will more than likely rub unless you drop tyre width sizes or do arch work.

 

[Charlie Farley]

A4 B7 has 57.1 centre bore ,to use A6 alloys you'll need 66.6 mm spigots .

 

[Charlie Farley]

If you want to see what they will look like , checkout some of my recent pics.
I'm running the same wheels , size speedlines .
with 235/35 19" tyres and 5mm spacer front and 8mm rear , works out to be approx. F et32 / R et29

 

[Ricky Burrows]

If you want to see what they will look like , checkout some of my recent pics.
I'm running the same wheels , size speedlines .
with 235/35 19" tyres and 5mm spacer front and 8mm rear , works out to be approx. F et29 / R et30

You not getting any rubbing on the front with et29? I used to have a very slight rub in front with et35 and it’s relatively low.

 

[UisT4]

I put alloys from a B8 S4 on my car, they are ET43 and 8.5J, A6 alloys are either ET43 or ET45 so they should fit ok.
Like Rob said you'll need spigot rings as the centre bore is larger, and also 235 width tyres instead of 255 on the A6. I don't have spacers and no issues with rubbing etc

 

[Charlie Farley]

You not getting any rubbing on the front with et29? I used to have a very slight rub in front with et35 and it’s relatively low.

I've got that about face ricky.
My rears are ET29 the fronts are ET32...no rubbing on the front now , rears still a bit on one side but pretty sure its the liner to blame.

 

[Ricky Burrows]

I've got that about face ricky.
My rears are ET29 the fronts are ET32...no rubbing on the front now , rears still a bit on one side but pretty sure its the liner to blame.

Yeah i was surprised as were running the same size wheels my rears need to come out another 5mm to make them 30et but I've put it on hold until i figure out whats going on with the wide arches and how I'm going to tackle it may just get the 5’s for now though? Ohh the choices and dilemmas...

 

[Pro-cookie]

Ok does anyone on here have any 19inch rotar’s that would fit mine that you are willing to sell? I really do like the look of rotar’s on the avant.

 

[Ricky Burrows]

I have some in decent condition

 

[Charlie Farley]

Ok does anyone on here have any 19inch rotar’s that would fit mine that you are willing to sell? I really do like the look of rotar’s on the avant.

why the change?
you'll have the same issues what ever you go with unless it is specific A4 B7 fitment and offset.
Spigot ring are only a few pounds .

 

[maxdrz400]

If you do decide to go down the spacer route I bought some hubcentric spacers from ebay, seller was called watfieldslimited. The spacers are £38 and come with the correct length wheel bolts with a radius head, the whole lot Is really nice quality for the money, and they are next day delivery too.
Just to clarify I have no relationship with the seller and purely writing a review!
Hope you get something sorted

 

[Ricky Burrows]

There genuine 19” black edition rotors with tyres cant remember how great they tyres are though but if your interested pm me.

 

[Pro-cookie]

Ok will these fit if I get spigot rings? They are con-caved don’t know if that makes a difference with the offset? And is 35et going to be ok?

 

[maxdrz400]

Should do, im sure Rob or someone more knowledgeable will be along shortly.
But csnt see why they wont, my wheels are et46(dont ask) and I've just put a 15mm spacer on which makes it et31 and they sit nicely

 

[Charlie Farley]

On paper they will but you will need spigot rings to reduce the centre bore down to B7 diameter.
ET35 is a good offset for the B7 , probably one of the safest if you want more than the 0em ET43.
A pic would be good really , just be carefull they will clear your front calipers as even the oem calipers can be problematic and catch on the inner edges of alloys.

 

[Pro-cookie]

Off set really confuses me with wheels it’s the only reason I have never bought different wheels for any of my cars. Problem is I need to get some as the wheels on mine are buckled so as you can imagine doesn’t make for a nice drive. I figured if I’m going to get new wheels then I’d like to go up a size to 19 but then widths change and so does off set. Then you get some people saying use this off set then others saying no don’t do that, it just batters my head

 

[Charlie Farley]

Don't forget they are an 8.5j so 12mm wider overall than your oem 8j alloys, so an 8.5j et35 will be 6mm closer to the wheel arch than a 8j et35 working on a like for like offset calculation.
they will be a nice fit , but just make sure with the front caliper clearance as it can be a spanner in the works , (been there and know all about it).
Also 235/35 19 tyres will be best size.

 

[Charlie Farley]

Off set really confuses me with wheels it’s the only reason I have never bought different wheels for any of my cars. Problem is I need to get some as the wheels on mine are buckled so as you can imagine doesn’t make for a nice drive. I figured if I’m going to get new wheels then I’d like to go up a size to 19 but then widths change and so does off set. Then you get some people saying use this off set then others saying no don’t do that, it just batters my head

Offset is very easy once you grasp how it works.

Basically for most cars the higher the number the more inboard the wheel is positioned, and the lower more outboard .
So oem on a b7 with 18" 8j alloys is ET43 , if you went to a 8.5j still on et43 it would be 6mm wider each side , things get a bit more complicated as the 6mm that has been added to the outer edge has the same effect as adding a 6mm spacer.

Even though its still an et43 , the extra outside 6mm has the same effect now as fitting a ET 37 as the rim outsid eedge has moved out 6mm more than the oem rim, but you will also have that 6mm on the inside edge which is unlikelky to be an issue.

So that in mind the alloys you are looking at are ET35 so will be approx. 8mm further out to start with which is fine, but as its an 8.5j rim you need to add that 6mm on each side.
As we know inside edge on ET35 wont be an issue a benefit really but you need to factor in that 6mm on the outer rim edge aswell.
What you will end up with is a rim that is closer to based on wheel arch placement to ET30 approx, which is still ok , but you'll need 235/35 rubber on them.

 

[Charlie Farley]

In short terms the alloy itself will stick out 14mm more than your current oem alloy wheel, plus the tyre sidewall .

 

[Pro-cookie]

Ok thanks for that. I’m a mechanically minded guy but for some reason off sets have never sunk in and from that explanation I just kind of glazed over lol. It’s bizarre it just won’t go in so I’m trying now to find second hand rims that are exactly the same as what I have then I can’t screw it up

 

[Pro-cookie]

If any of you have the Le Mans style ones with that et 43 without buckles and your looking to sell let me know. Cheers

 

[Pro-cookie]

Ok so still confused with the offset thing and I still seem to have a slight vibration in one of the wheels. would these fit?

 

[Charlie Farley]

Great if you have an Rs4 B7 .

9j is 25.4 mm wider than your 8j alloy , et37 offset is 6mm more than you current alloys, so that will mean these alloys will stick out 19mm more than you current ones plus the tyre sidewall .
alloys are just doable but those tyres are too wide on an A4 B7 .

 

[Pro-cookie]

Ok thanks Rob, so how about 8.5j on the same offset of et43? I really wish offset would just gel with me lol

 

[Charlie Farley]

These are what I have .
B8 le mans 8.5j 19" ET43 with 235/35 tyres.
I had a slight issue with tyre rubbing on the inside edge against the front strut so added a 5mm spacer to the fronts and 8mm on the rears just to give it a more staggered appearance and its been spot on, basically I have made an adjustment for the added 6mm extra rim width on the inside rim edge so it back to oem width , well from an inner wheel arch position that is.
the outside rim is now ET43 + 6mm for the extra rim width + 5mm spacer = ET32 from a poke standpoint.

 

[Pro-cookie]

That’s spot on Rob thank you. Is that lowered at all? It looks like it is slightly unless the bigger wheels just give that impression. Mines the same as yours by the looks, Black B7 s-line.

 

[Charlie Farley]

It is lowered , Bilstein B8 dampers with H&R 45mm drop springs all round, excellent setup.
special edition 2.0tfsi 220 avant with a few other bits fitted....

 

[Charlie Farley]

running 235/35 19" tyres on these rims does give the illusion of them being larger and filling out the arches more, more wheel & less rubber on show.

 

[Pro-cookie]

It is lowered , Bilstein B8 dampers with H&R 45mm drop springs all round, excellent setup.
special edition 2.0tfsi 220 avant with a few other bits fitted....

Very nice! Bet that goes like stink. I have the 2ltr tdi 170 probably doesn’t go as well as yours

 

[Ricky Burrows]

Very nice! Bet that goes like stink. I have the 2ltr tdi 170 probably doesn’t go as well as yours

If your clutch can hold up they make decent torque figures when you start playing about with them, always gives the feel of a faster car when you got decent torque, joys of a diesel though i guess, just shame about the noise they make lol.

 

[Charlie Farley]

Very nice! Bet that goes like stink. I have the 2ltr tdi 170 probably doesn’t go as well as yours

It does go very well, when its behaving that is, which it most certainly is not at present.

 

[Pro-cookie]

If your clutch can hold up they make decent torque figures when you start playing about with them, always gives the feel of a faster car when you got decent torque, joys of a diesel though i guess, just shame about the noise they make lol.

What kind of playing about? I’m intrigued

 

[Pro-cookie]

It does go very well, when its behaving that is, which it most certainly is not at present.[/QUOTEwhats up with it Rob hopefully nothing to serious I hope?

 

[Ricky Burrows]

What kind of playing about? I’m intrigued

By far the best bang for buck in diesels is a stage 1 remap, your never see an increase as drastic unless you go big turbo but cost involved with supporting mods as well it gets ridiculous.

Remap it and your be over the moon, i mapped my Mercedes e320 cdi sport (first and probably last diesel ill have) it went from stock 225hp & 400ft lbs to 270hp and 450 ft lbs for a £300 remap it was more than worth it.

 

[Pro-cookie]

By far the best bang for buck in diesels is a stage 1 remap, your never see an increase as drastic unless you go big turbo but cost involved with supporting mods as well it gets ridiculous.

Remap it and your be over the moon, i mapped my Mercedes e320 cdi sport (first and probably last diesel ill have) it went from stock 225hp & 400ft lbs to 270hp and 450 ft lbs for a £300 remap it was more than worth it.

I might just look into that then thanks Ricky. Do you have any recommendations on who to use? And touching on the turbo issue mine is getting a little smokey but not sure if it’s turbo related though it probably is as she’s done just over 200,000 miles and no turbo replacement in her history. What turbo would it be? I think it’s BRD engine code or BRE. It’s 170bhp Quattro so I’m thinking I’ll replace it. Is it possible to get one of those hybrid turbos without supporting mods? And what is the difference with a hybrid?

 

[Ricky Burrows]

I might just look into that then thanks Ricky. Do you have any recommendations on who to use? And touching on the turbo issue mine is getting a little smokey but not sure if it’s turbo related though it probably is as she’s done just over 200,000 miles and no turbo replacement in her history. What turbo would it be? I think it’s BRD engine code or BRE. It’s 170bhp Quattro so I’m thinking I’ll replace it. Is it possible to get one of those hybrid turbos without supporting mods? And what is the difference with a hybrid?

Depends where in the country you are to be honest if tour anywhere near the midlands then MSL Performance have a very good reputation they specialise in amg’s but they do everything else as well, they had a 1000hp porsche when i was last there and often hold charity dyno days definitely worth looking at they have a 4wd dyno as well.

As for your turbo I'm not sure probably worth ringing tps, i cant comment on supporting mods for a hybrid or even how to go about it on a diesel, sorry mate I'm just about learning the ins and outs of my first petrol turbo car lol.

 

[Ricky Burrows]

A hybrid turbo is when you keep your original turbo housing and have it machined out to fit a larger turbos goodies inside. Hence the name hybrid, basically just combining two different sized turbos to make one little beast.