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I'm so confused...... RNSE

Mr.Vagcom Feb 20, 2019

  1. Mr.Vagcom

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    Hi Everyone,
    I am totally lost on this one !

    So I have a 2005 A4 avant Sline B7 with a bose amp but front speakers are head unit powered, it was fitted with a symphony 2 not the plus version so it has ISO stereo wiring and all was fine before fitting the RNSE.
    Changed symphony 2 for RNSE which was working perfectly in another A4, front speakers work but nothing from the rear.
    I have searched the hell out of the problem for possible solutions but nothing makes sense...…
    So I put the symphony 2 back in still no sound from the rear.
    Tried a speaker test in vcds nothing from the rears.
    Does anyone know where the bose amp pulls its +ve feeds from ?
    Or any fuses that I may have overlooked ?

    Any information will be greatly received !!

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  3. s8craig

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    I'm confused too because the BOSE amp powers all the speakers, not just the rears. So if you bought a BOSE harness for the RNS-E then all 4 speakers should work. Even with incorrect coding or any other stupid mistakes.
     
  4. Mr.Vagcom

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    Yes that is how I understood it even with previous A4's that I have had but this is definitely a Bose amp and sub and I have got the amp in the house now taking it to bits..... all of the iso plugs were plugged in the back of the symphony 2 and on the iso speaker plug only the middle 4 group have wires in them.....correct me if I am wrong but that is the front speaker connections.....
    Looks to me that i have purchased a Friday afternoon vehicle !! Either that or it was the Thursday before Easter.
     
  5. Mr.Vagcom

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    The Audi Vw number is 355 013 01s any ideas guys ?
     
  6. s8craig

    s8craig Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    It is the speaker plug, 8 pin brown connector with 4 wires.

    But none of it makes sense, does the 20 pin connector have L&R front and rear pins inserted?
    FL, FR, RL, RR pins?
     
  7. Mr.Vagcom

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    Yes both the quad lock and the factory iso (the brown plug) both only have 4 wires

    No the 20 pin has RL RR and Line out GND pins in the factory loom with Tel mute, dsp radio on etc going to the respective pins...….. but all the FL FR RL RR etc are in the quad lock
     
  8. Mr.Vagcom

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    Pulled the log out of it tonight...… and there is also a beeping coming from the speakers..... it does it on power up...….. beep beep beep x3 with a short pause in between the three beeps...…. thoughts ?



    Sunday,24,February,2019,20:51:49:00148
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com

    VIN: WAUZZZ8E45A487879 License Plate: MY A4
    Mileage: 189950km-118029mi Repair Order:

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
    67 69 75 76 77

    VIN: WAUZZZ8E45A487879 Mileage: 189950km-118029miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BLB.clb
    Part No SW: 03G 906 016 GN HW: 028 101 211 3
    Component: R4 2,0L EDC 0000SG 9618
    Revision: 12345678 Serial number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    Coding: 0000072
    Shop #: WSC 00656 210 83209
    VCID: 75E4743E1CC1A2E2FE-8020
    1 Fault Found:
    18049 - Please check DTC Memory of A/C Controller
    P1641 - 000 - - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 882 /min
    Torque: 26.0 Nm
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Load: 0.0 %
    Voltage: 14.44 V
    Bin. Bits: 11000100
    Temperature: 55.8°C
    (no units): 0.0
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-910-517.clb
    Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 B HW: 8E0 614 517 AT
    Component: ESP8 front H04 0180
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
    Coding: 0004401
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 2646637291E7997A87-8072
    1 Fault Found:
    00290 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Left (G46)
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101100
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 4
    Reset counter: 40
    Time Indication: 0
    Freeze Frame:
    Hex Value: 0x0100
    Hex Value: 0x4A06
    Hex Value: 0x00FF
    Hex Value: 0xFFAE
    Hex Value: 0x00FF

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 820 043 BM
    Component: A4 Klimaautomat 3233
    Coding: 00000
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    VCID: 6DD45C5E27916A2206-50E6
    4 Faults Found:
    01172 - Temperature Sensor; Driver's Heated Seat (G59)
    30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    01171 - Temperature Sensor; Passenger Side Heated Seat (G60)
    30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65)
    30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
    01794 - Control Module - Incorrect Chassis (VIN) Number
    35-00 - -
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 907 279 K
    Component: int. Lastmodul ECE 0304
    Coding: 10001
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 3A7EA702265F0D9AD3-4AB4
    1 Fault Found:
    01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X)
    30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
    Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 G HW: 8E0 959 655 G
    Component: Airbag 9.41 H10 3230
    Revision: 91H10323 Serial number: 0036M002CBZ5
    Coding: 0033622
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 3B70A2067A653492C8-806E
    Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332DRB401B9899D0
    Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB401BE5394V
    Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352ARB40048DFB4.
    Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362ARB40048DEDC4
    Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63729RB4004A23C4I
    Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63829RB4004A23D3J
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 953 549 S
    Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0611
    Coding: 01002
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 4380DAE651954C5280-4ACE
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
    Part No SW: 8E0 920 950 S HW: 8E0 920 950 S
    Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H12 0040
    Revision: 0040 Serial number: 00000000000000
    Coding: 0006441
    Shop #: WSC 00661 512 00000
    VCID: 397CB80E73590682DA-5120
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
    Part No SW: 8E0 920 950 S HW: 8E0 920 950 S
    Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H12 0040
    Revision: 0040 Serial number: 00000000000000
    Coding: 0006441
    Shop #: WSC 00661 512 00000
    VCID: 397CB80E73590682DA-5102
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
    Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 K HW: 8E0 035 192 K
    Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H72 0650
    Revision: 01S Serial number: AUZBZ7F1156127
    Coding: 0309151
    Shop #: WSC 02195 785 00200
    VCID: 2C52915A8C0BA32A51-513C
    5 Faults Found:
    00862 - Antenna for GPS Navigation (R50/R52)
    011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101011
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 119
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2019.02.24
    Time: 20:40:50
    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 655350 km
    Count: 65535
    Clock: 255:255
    00856 - Radio Antenna
    011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101011
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 119
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2019.02.24
    Time: 20:41:04
    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 655350 km
    Count: 2402
    Clock: 20:47
    00858 - Connection; Radio Intermediate Frequency (IF) Output to Antenna Amplifier
    011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101011
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 119
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2019.02.24
    Time: 20:41:00
    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 655350 km
    Count: 2402
    Clock: 20:47
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
    000 - -
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100000
    Fault Priority: 7
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 79
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2019.02.24
    Time: 20:40:51
    02005 - Coding Pin
    004 - No Signal/Communication
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100100
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 79
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2019.02.24
    Time: 20:41:00

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 45: Inter. Monitor Labels: 8E0-951-177.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 951 177
    Component: Innenraumueberw. 0804
    Coding: 00001
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    VCID: 6BD052461985641218-5102
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
    Part No: 8E0 959 433 BM
    Component: Komfortgerát T3B 2431
    Coding: 07163
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 7DF46C1E77F1FAA2B6-4AB4
    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E2959802B
    Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0205
    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E2959801B
    Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0205
    Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A
    Component: Tõrsteuer.HL BRM 0205
    Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A
    Component: Tõrsteuer.HR BRM 0205
    1 Fault Found:
    01616 - Signal Wire to Interior Monitor
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
    Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 K HW: 8E0 035 192 K
    Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H72 0650
    Revision: 01S Serial number: AUZBZ7F1156127
    Coding: 0309151
    Shop #: WSC 02195 785 00200
    VCID: 2C52915A8C0BA32A51-5120
    5 Faults Found:
    00862 - Antenna for GPS Navigation (R50/R52)
    011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101011
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 119
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2019.02.24
    Time: 20:40:50
    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 655350 km
    Count: 65535
    Clock: 255:255
    00856 - Radio Antenna
    011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101011
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 119
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2019.02.24
    Time: 20:41:04
    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 655350 km
    Count: 2402
    Clock: 20:47
    00858 - Connection; Radio Intermediate Frequency (IF) Output to Antenna Amplifier
    011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101011
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 119
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2019.02.24
    Time: 20:41:00
    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 655350 km
    Count: 2402
    Clock: 20:47
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
    000 - -
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100000
    Fault Priority: 7
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 79
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2019.02.24
    Time: 20:40:51
    02005 - Coding Pin
    004 - No Signal/Communication
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100100
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 79
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2019.02.24
    Time: 20:41:00

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 D HW: 8P0 862 335 D
    Component: FSE_255x BT H18 0050
    Revision: 00000001 Serial number: 00000000178082
    Coding: 0000522
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 3778BE36454D10F22C-5102
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 7
    Reset counter: 186
    Time Indication: 15

    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 06:20)--------------------------
     
  9. Mr.Vagcom

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    Tried my amp in another vehicle and it works perfectly....... Tried his amp in my car does not work...... possibly a coding issue ?
     
  10. s8craig

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    Coding will not affect operation. Check the mute wire on the harness, chances are its muting the whole system
     
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    If your 20 pin connector only has RL+RR pins, then how can you have BOSE, you are missing the FR+FL pins to feed the line level to the amp.

    All the evidence points to a non BOSE system I'm afraid.
     
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  13. Mr.Vagcom

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    I will check the mute wire thank you

    And I would totally agree about the pins missing and bose.... I have contacted an Audi tech guy that I know and he claims that there is a semi bose version of the bose system that rare and he had never seen one and to be honest I never have seen one, so I had a thought to contact a parrot installer and enquire about a parrot car phone kit...... he gave me 3 options non bose..... full bose and semi bose.....but only for the 2005 and 2006 model years...... odd I know !!
     
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    I spent years working on Audis from an ICE point of view, I never came across semi-bose
     
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    I would not trust anything that advert states as the years of cars are upto 2015 for A4 and we know the B7 stopped at 2009 with the last of the cabriolets. It is a general purpose cable and it even has a set of phone adaptors on it, I've never seen an Audi harness that requires phonos.
     
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    I dont have access to Elsawin at the moment, but in Elsawin for each model it states the types of sound systems available in each vehicle section. It would be worth looking at the A4 B7 for clarification. But from my own experience semi-bose doesnt exist.
     
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