Thanks veeeight. I'll stop hijacking this 0-60 thread now.
Although I am still interested in 0-60 without LC - which would be the more realistic day-to-day scenario. Setting up LC seems too fiddly from what I have read, to be of any real use. Traffic lights are likely to have changed before its setup!
Thanks veeeight. I'll stop hijacking this 0-60 thread now.
Although I am still interested in 0-60 without LC - which would be the more realistic day-to-day scenario. Setting up LC seems too fiddly from what I have read, to be of any real use. Traffic lights are likely to have changed before its setup!
Don't let these comments regarding dsg and awkward moments at junctions/roundabouts deter you, as a day to day drive dsg imho is a great thing to have. If your interested in your daily driving revolving around nipping out dangerously at roundabouts ( which am sure your not ) then maybe a manual may be the better place to stay, either way once that quarter of a second of turbo spool is outta the way you've more than enough power to get your *** out. Dsg may be classed as lazy driving by some and not as quick off the mark without launch control, but this is day to day driving were on about and there's nothing better than having the option to just drive, use your paddles or if you want to even use the gear knob. This is my first dsg car and I don't think I'll ever go back to a manual. Hope this extra opinion helps in the bigger picture.Hi Guys
I'm contemplating changing my S3 8P (manual) for a new/nearly new S3 8V (S-Tronic), or may wait for facelift. I drove an S3 8V at the Audi Showcase day the other year and I was blown away by the speed of the gear changes of the DSG. BUT...
What is the DSG like on a day-to-day basis? I've read the other thread on here about them being "hit and miss". Now I see you guys mentioning stuff like "getting out of junctions is interesting sometimes" - WTF!!
Can you go into more detail?
I think everyone loves the old "traffic-light-gp" sometimes and my current S3 (manual) has been excellent in this respect, wet or dry.
But with DSG and no Launch Control, what is the S3 8V like? Can you put your left foot on the brake, apply the revs with your right, then let the brake off and go? Kind-of a "manual" launch?
Sorry for all the questions, but going from a manual to an auto is quite big decision (if I do decide to have another S3).
Cheers
AL
Don't let these comments regarding dsg and awkward moments at junctions/roundabouts deter you, as a day to day drive dsg imho is a great thing to have. If your interested in your daily driving revolving around nipping out dangerously at roundabouts ( which am sure your not ) then maybe a manual may be the better place to stay, either way once that quarter of a second of turbo spool is outta the way you've more than enough power to get your *** out. Dsg may be classed as lazy driving by some and not as quick off the mark without launch control, but this is day to day driving were on about and there's nothing better than having the option to just drive, use your paddles or if you want to even use the gear knob. This is my first dsg car and I don't think I'll ever go back to a manual. Hope this extra opinion helps in the bigger picture.
Sorry mate ..Was only 'bating' you..No harm meant....I just provide irrefutable facts and data
Others provide the arguments
Pleased I don't have the probs with turbo spool ...once that quarter of a second of turbo spool is outta the way you've more than enough power to get your *** out.
Cool, so you agree DSG is perfectly safe, just checking
Pleased I don't have the probs with turbo spool ...
Just out of interest, according to Audi the s-tronic version of the S3 is quicker 0-62mph that than a manual - 4.8 secs as opposed to 5.2 secs. Presumably because the s-tronic can change gear quicker and under full power.
I just provide irrefutable facts and data
Others provide the arguments
When it comes down to it, who cares about differences of less than a second 0-60 anyway. I certainly don't.
When it comes down to it, who cares about differences of less than a second 0-60 anyway. I certainly don't.
Agree. Drive to suit the car and the conditions. Figures quoted by manufacturers are only useful to compare one car with another.It's very simple.
With DSG & turbo combination, you have to make allowances.
(That you needn't have made, had you been driving a manual and naturally aspirated car.)
It's just one of the downsides of the DSG. No biggie.
Your not kidding mate...Will have to put up with boring old text I'm afraid......Like I've said before.....1984
For what's it's worth, my opinion on acceleration and roundabouts......
Irrespective of manual or DSG the S3 is more than quick enough out of the blocks onto busy roundabouts if needed. The biggest danger is once you are on the roundabout and coming towards the next entry/exit when other less able (quick) cars think they can get on in front of you. Invariably you end up braking as they underestimate how fast you are approaching and secondly overestimate how quick they are .......about half a dozen such occasions in the last couple of days confirms my view on this!!!
So why have you quoted 0-62 times, and commented in a thread titled "Acceleration (0-60mph)?
And probably costs twice as much to make! The DSG is designed for mass produced cars whereas the Porsche is not yet in the same field.Audi could learn a lot from Porsche's PDK, that truly is a brilliant gearbox
In my opinion it's miles better. Manual mode is a 'proper manual' and it doesn't hesitate at all. Can't get much better imoHaving driven a fair few miles in a Porsche with PDK box and various Audis with S Tronic and Tiptronic I am not sure I would agree that the PDK is a better product.
There's a joke in there!!! I better not thoughI recommend test driving both to see what box you like best