thanks for the reply.
i have no problem geting to the holder and releasing the clips, but when trying to remove it it only pulls back about an inch before hiting a metal bracket, not enough to clear the bulbs from the lense, if that makes any more sence. i haven't needed to change a bulb yet, i was giving it a quick once over before its MOT and there is no bulb in the neerside fog light, so thought i'd ask the question while it was on my mind and not when a bulb has gone, geting very frustrated, taking the skin of my knuckels and breaking something. thanks again, mick.