Hi guys. Just wondering if these are any good. Very little info about them. I know most prefer the ie but these seem to he a bit cheaper so may aswell try to save a bit on this job i really dont want to do. Any info would be great thanks daz
rod 'kit' is sub £600How much is a 'bit cheaper' out of interest? I'm getting tempted to go down the forged rods route later on this year.
rod 'kit' is sub £600
glad i have Brutesapparently narrower at the pin end than std rods (or IE's)... by some margin.
had a call from a guy this morning asking if the 5mm (described) thinner than std was going to be ok... Less bush to pin for load spreading...
never used them myself (I use IE products) but them being narrower at small end/pin seem's curious to me.
IE's/Std are 25mm wide for ref.
anyone got a DM one to measure and confirm the top thickness width?
I have a sneaky suspicion that DM, scat and IE rods are all made by the same place, probably in china, and the big companies sell them on as house brands. Even the eBay rods that are made in china look the same - now the eBay ones might be a copy
apparently narrower at the pin end than std rods (or IE's)... by some margin.
had a call from a guy this morning asking if the 5mm (described) thinner than std was going to be ok... Less bush to pin for load spreading...
never used them myself (I use IE products) but them being narrower at small end/pin seem's curious to me.
IE's/Std are 25mm wide for ref.
anyone got a DM one to measure and confirm the top thickness width?
IE rods are definitely made in house in the US. I know this as mine were delayed for a further 4 weeks while IE setup their workshops with the equipment to make them on site. I do believe that they were paying someone else to produce them before this (April 2012) but think it was still a US based manufacturer.
Doesnt Prawn run DM rods???
if he does then they are good enough for me!
potential andrew situation.why would you make the pin end narrower tho is my question... Higher load on the pin/bush from less surface area. Sure rod wont bend... but pin/bush wear and on BT builts (I mean proper BT) I would'nt choose a narrower section small end/pin rod combination.
yea he does..
why would you make the pin end narrower tho is my question... Higher load on the pin/bush from less surface area. Sure rod wont bend... but pin/bush wear and on BT builts (I mean proper BT) I would'nt choose a narrower section small end/pin rod combination.
Seemed curious thats all..
so much so a garage fitting some to an ASNer called the owner to question why so much thinner than the std ones they were replacing them with.. Never touched one myself so no idea of their dims..
stupid size turbo like you and tuffty have, it must be worth getting the a better spec (dimension wise)
Does nobody use the Cat Cams Forged Rods??
please refrain from such language and the big turbos
Totally agree with you bill, doesnt make sense. would have thought they would be the same thickness as OEM as least. You hvae another valid point there. may be ok for k04 hybrid levels but for a stupid size turbo like you and tuffty have, it must be worth getting the a better spec (dimension wise)
... and expensive with no mention of if they are rifle drilled...
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Why are people trying to get cheap non drilled rods and get them drilled? To save a few quid? The rods are so important to the engine that for the sake of saving yourself maybe £150-£200 instead of buying IE or equivalent drilled rods is madness! At the end of the day the labour to fit them is not going to change.
I think that if you're trying to scrimp too much on components like connecting rods you might need to think twice about opening up the engine...
its like buying a Chinese oil pump, you know it's going to fail, the gamble is when?
And yet people still buy relentless manifolds
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Tbh guys my intentions were always to buy done. Hence my original question. But when they are all the same rod its tempting to stray. U can get rods same as branded ones for around 200. Then get them drilled. Thats quite a saving. Plus ive had month after month of big bills with the ****** thing and for another likely 1k of what i consider a job with no seen improvement is it really hard to understand why im trying to save money. I havent even had it for 2 months for fixing bits!! Anyway. Ill go ie or dm rifle drilled while in the states. Thanks all!!
When a mani fails you don't ruin your engine
When a mani fails you don't ruin your engine
Theyre good reasons mate but unless you can guarentee the cheaper rods are of the same quality as the big brands you're taking a risk. The job of changing rods themselves doesn't just stop at the cost of the rods. You'll need to buy a load of other parts like a head kit and belts etc.[/QUOTE
No you are right. At least if anything happens my rods are garanteed. They wont be if i drilled them. Plus its a one off job so i wont be doing it again. Ive read into it and i know theres more needed but the bulk of the money is the rods i think so ill make a big saving on shiiping etc so that should pay for the rest. Having said that i can see things becoming expensive when i do rods. only thing stopping me doing a hybrid was rods. but too many bending on std turbo now. I cringe everytime i boot it lol
No but you nearly sold up because of it ;P
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That's just me. I think about selling up most days even when the car is running well lol