Hit and run

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Tuesday 6pm after work, was getting back to the car to see rear offside corner scuffed. First thought: "b@stard".
No note left, no witnesses.
However, I work for CCTV equipment distributor so there are cameras outside the building, including couple of ANPR's.
Searched through the footage and found the incident, car and number plate. Got all screen shots and footage secured. What to do next?
Checked the reg on gov.uk. Vehicle is MOT'd and TAXed. Run the reg on MID and it comes back as NOT insured. Thought: "BANG! Got you, you #@#@£@"!
Reported it to MET online and got the response within the hour. Coppers are not interested, as it is a minor damage and they didn't cought the car being actually driven.
No further action taken, only advice given to request owner/keeper info from DVLA.
Dvla web page said, I can request it via email and that is what I did.
Reply came today morning, they do not accept requests via email and I have to do postal order for £2.50! and send them the hand written form via recorded post. C'mon!

Damage is cosmetic and probbably can polish it off. It is on rear offside wheel arch, bumper and two spokes on the alloy scuffed.
Wheel is already curbbed so not bothered that much but paint.
My car is neglected in wash since aitp and is filthy. This is literally Biblical filth on it and in it. No time to wash or hoover.
Thought of washing it over the weekend and inspect the scuffed area.

Going to request info from dvla as they want and hope the guy is local to confront him or write to to him, if he"s details will be released to me.
Till then, car stays filthy

My car was parked across the road of my work place and the driver of that vehicle was allowing oncoming car to pass by and didn't realised how close he was to my car scraped it. He tried to swerve off but it wass too late. Damage was done so he andntinue to drive like nothing has ever happened.





ANPR camera on the system has confirmed the vehicle passing by couple of times at various of times in the day.
Also, he passed by today but before midday and would not be able to stop him.

Pictures confirm female passenger sitting next to the driver so i suspect her hubby also had a gray hair and forgotten he's glasses that day or skipped the appointment at Specsavers.

I will find hunt him!
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Sorry to hear about this, evidence all looks pretty conclusive to me, real daft how the police aren't doing anything just goes to show justice isn't served. Guess the only thing the other driver has going for them is saying something like they didn't notice they hit the car, real annoying thing about this situation is it doesn't look like enough damage to justify going through insurance, would be nice if people just had the decency to leave a note and pay for their mistakes.
 
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I suspect the driver may have been put off by the motorcyle. Most of the time they don't ride over the speed bumps they pass through the middle. He may have thought the rider was going to do that in which case he should really have stopped and let the rider through.
Judging by the speed of the car, it does seem quite slow and what you said about grey hair and glasses, sounds like an oldie who maybe shouldn't be driving.
If the car is uninsured then he was never going to stop. I think you would be surprised at the amount of uninsured cars on the roads especially in some areas of the country. When the penalty for driving uninsured is little more than actually insuring the car people just don't bother.
 
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What make are the CCTV cameras?

Good to see some clear video instead of the usual rubbish.

Good luck with hunting them down...name and shame!
 
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I would take the video into the police and state you want it looked into as although it is minor it is still leaving the scene after an accident and you have the evidence. Request they contact the driver and get him to call you to sort out the repair .No doubt they won't though.
I get they are very busy but what if the driver had knocked someone down they would be interested then.
 
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Thank you guys for all the input.

As daft as it looks, for some it is too much to be decent and own it.
Whatever he thought it was done, he wasn't careful enough.

In the process of gathering all evidence to post out to dvla. Should post it out Monday.

Tried to rub it off today with a finger and it looks like it is shifting so I'm not worried much anymore.
All I want to know now is, will dvla going to release he's info to me.

I'm sure he's local so I'll drive up there to show him all evidence and the damage.

@Pinky1959, I'm considering that option, you suggesting but think it will a long wait until they'll listen me out.
Local police station is busy.
I also aim to get to the driver before the coppers so I can threatten them with that route.

You guys tracked me well, to my work.
One of the videos I've downloaded is recorded by Videoteknika 4k camera so the quality is superb.
We have cameras ranging from 2mp to 4k(8mp). Technology is going forward so soon We can expect even better picture.

Been told that, this corner where I've parked is dodgy. Now I know why.

Will update you lot with any news I'll have.

Stay safe
 
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Good luck !!! It s awful how easily some folk s just, if they can walk away from their civil responsibility.
Look. I live in the dumbest, fattest state in America; we have so many drivers whose cars CANNOT PASS an inspection our state Senate WAIVED IT !!!!
And my insurance ( I ve not had a ticket in 17 yr s ) went up 169.00 every 6 month s for both cars due to the number of uninsured motorists ????!!!!

( why did I retire here ??It s very affordable, I m 3 miles from the beach and VERY EZ TO be be a stand out !!!!!)
 
Update

Monday got a letter from MET Police regarding my report.
It has been proceed and taken over by traffic dept. Assigned case manager done some research and made first steps.

In the letter it said, they have quoted case number in the correspondence to my insurers. My blood boiled.
Case manager included contact details so emailed right away that, I do not want inform my insurer as there is no physical damage, only cosmetic and I do not wish them to inform from now on.
Got the reply yesterday that there was no initial info sent to my insurers at all and definetely there won't be.

Most importantly, been told that they already contacted registered keeper.
I mean, it was the point of the whole MET report but thought it will take them time which I can use to obtain details on him/her from dvla.

Alleged vehicle passed by my workplace again on Sunday just after 9:30am and came back the same way 10min later.
MUST be local.

Yesterday posted a info request to dvla so should have the reply within 4 weeks the most.

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KrisKrk said:
Tuesday 6pm after work, was getting back to the car to see rear offside corner scuffed. First thought: "b@stard".
No note left, no witnesses.
Damage is cosmetic and probably can polish it off

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If you can polish the marks off do you really think the other driver will have even felt the 'impact'? As far as the police being interested in this, it'll take them a week to respond if you car's been stolen never mind scuffed.

PS not trying to belittle you, I'd be raging as well, but cutbacks to public services can't just keep happening without detriment.
 
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If you can polish the marks off do you really think the other driver will have even felt the 'impact'? As far as the police being interested in this, it'll take them a week to respond if you car's been stolen never mind scuffed.

PS not trying to belittle you, I'd be raging as well, but cutbacks to public services can't just keep happening without detriment.
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Thanx for that, Steve but if I'm paying taxes and this type of uninsured so called "driver" think he's going to get away with it, he is in for a suprise.

This service is available to everyone so why should I think twice to use it?
Not saying I would do same as to Ambulance or Fire service.

As you've admitted it, you would also seek justice, if it ever happened to you.
Hope you'll never be in my position.

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Wishing you all the best mate, worst comes to worst if you've spotted the car since a pattern might emerge of when the driver takes this route and you can be ready to chase the bloke down and tell them it's been reported to the police (just to scare 'em, maybe even mention hit and run plus let him know about the video evidence) and how much it will/did cost to put right. Bit of fear and guilt tripping tends to make people pay in my experiance.
 
regardless of damage, the fact the police seemingly don't care about an uninsured driver makes me seethe. they should be all over that even if they're not interested in your level of damage.
 
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KrisKrk said:
Thanx for that, Steve but if I'm paying taxes and this type of uninsured so called "driver" think he's going to get away with it, he is in for a suprise.

This service is available to everyone so why should I think twice to use it?
Not saying I would do same as to Ambulance or Fire service.

As you've admitted it, you would also seek justice, if it ever happened to you.
Hope you'll never be in my position.

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Maybe my post came over a bit harsh, apologies for that I'm actually on your side here, but police resources are so over stretched they are forced to prioritise. Much more serious accidents don't merit a police response these days unless there's injury or allegations of drink/drugs.
It's not right but it is what it is.
Only a few years back you would have had a prompt visit, the cop would have noted your statement, seized the video evidence and made enquiry to track down the culprit with a view to charging them. Time consuming for relatively minor offences but, quite rightly, that's what used to be done.
Unfortunately the resources just aren't there now.

A couple of months ago I was in your position, my Focus was hit whilst parked up, the rear bumper will need painted. I didn't have access to the CCTV that you have so just had to suck it up. I didn't phone the police because I knew what the 'response' - or lack of it would be, it's not worth an insurance claim either. Leaves a bad taste though, just glad it was the Ford and not the SQ5!!

Tempting as it is, if I was you, I wouldn't try to track down the driver, that confrontation could go sideways very quickly. If you do go that route take a witness.

Personally I'd notify my insurance company, you've identified the culprit, let them chase it up.
 
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Not worth telling insurance, think that's what he's trying to avoid which is why I suggested catching the bloke to pay, the guy will probably be making marks in his pants.
 
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No need to apologize, Steve. Didn't took it the wrong way.
Although I am not born British but I do pay fair taxes.
Being actually raped by the government on the hard earned cash, I will be the first one who is entitled to nhs or police assistance, than someone who cannot be bothered to work and want to scam council for the support, free flat and all the rest of benefits.

Sorry, maybe I have just went over board here but I have been told off on the street once, in brad day, by a British person. That was back in 2006. "How I dare come to this country and take work places from Brits"?
She was the one actually looking like the person who will claim it all and complain the most.

Apologies for my behaviour, as this post just evolved into a rant. Lol
Didn't mean to offend or upset anyone. It was all non intentional.

We are all working hard for what We have and it is shame for us to see that being neglected by someone who isn't careful enough or simply doesn't give two sh.. about it.

Appreciate all words of comfort and support, advice from you guys.

I know it may have been different in the past but time is changing and it us with that time, that are changing the world We all live in. Forget us, our children will live in the world We have or are in the process of destroying.
If We don't help each other, We are not kind to each other, what younger generation will do when they become parents?
I am genuinely afraid of my kids future.

Now I have just over done this post

As Jake mentioned, I don't want to report it to insurers as
a. they will increase my premiums in July renewal,
b. they won't do much, as the guys car is not insured.

Will think of witness on the confrontation time. Great tip. Thank you.
You never know what people they are.
Even if he turn out to be as recently famous of he's driving skills Monarch, he maybe less kind and hit me with a baseball bat he had behind the door. That would be fun.

Will see what happens as still awaiting dvla's reply and any kind of update from MET.

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KrisKrk said:
No need to apologize, Steve. Didn't took it the wrong way.
Although I am not born British but I do pay fair taxes.
Being actually raped by the government on the hard earned cash, I will be the first one who is entitled to nhs or police assistance, than someone who cannot be bothered to work and want to scam council for the support, free flat and all the rest of benefits.

Sorry, maybe I have just went over board here but I have been told off on the street once, in brad day, by a British person. That was back in 2006. "How I dare come to this country and take work places from Brits"?
She was the one actually looking like the person who will claim it all and complain the most.

Apologies for my behaviour, as this post just evolved into a rant. Lol
Didn't mean to offend or upset anyone. It was all non intentional.

We are all working hard for what We have and it is shame for us to see that being neglected by someone who isn't careful enough or simply doesn't give two sh.. about it.

Appreciate all words of comfort and support, advice from you guys.

I know it may have been different in the past but time is changing and it us with that time, that are changing the world We all live in. Forget us, our children will live in the world We have or are in the process of destroying.
If We don't help each other, We are not kind to each other, what younger generation will do when they become parents?
I am genuinely afraid of my kids future.

Now I have just over done this post

As Jake mentioned, I don't want to report it to insurers as
a. they will increase my premiums in July renewal,
b. they won't do much, as the guys car is not insured.

Will think of witness on the confrontation time. Great tip. Thank you.
You never know what people they are.
Even if he turn out to be as recently famous of he's driving skills Monarch, he maybe less kind and hit me with a baseball bat he had behind the door. That would be fun.

Will see what happens as still awaiting dvla's reply and any kind of update from MET.

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Videoing any confrontation would be better he could get a “witness” to say they were there and it went Different to how you say, video don’t lie, i’d Be ****** aswell, doesn’t matter if you were born British or not if you pay in to the system you deserve to use the system
 
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DVLA replied today
They want a quote or an invoice for the repairs as an additional info.

Why do they need it?

Maybe they want to see what's the damage value and base their decision to release the drivers info on that?

Off to the body repair garage.

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Got the quote and posted the letter back to dvla.
Awaiting their reply.

Washed the car Thursday and checked the damage.
There is a deep-ish scratch on the bumper of about 10cm length and some minor ones on the arch and quarter panel.
Tried to polish it out but was knackered after the wash so will tackle it later on.

Will drop in some pictures in the day light.

Had a plan to hand polish and wax the car after wash but the car was really filthy and whole energy drained from me quicker than I thought.

Clayed the car thoroughly, inspecting each panel for flaws.
Whole car paint correction would be ideal, before any paint protection applied.

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Here's the scuff
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You're making a mountain out of a molehill. That looks like it'll polish out.
 
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No. Someone did something similar to mine although the location of my car at the time, and the amount of paint transfer from their car would of meant they definitely knew they hit mine, and that they are most likely to be a neighbour (residential car park). With yours being so light and the car being dirty as you mentioned, the liklihood they realised they'd touched your car is slim. With your car being that dirty, you could get a similar mark just by someone brushing past it.

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In my case I polished it out and moved on with life. No damage to my car so why go on a hunt for them.
Its a good thing you have that cctv, but I think in this case I would just count my blessings that it was nothing major. What are you expecting to come of this anyway, if that was me I'd either tell you to f off, or to go through insurance while not admitting fault. I wouldn't be handing you cash or admitting liability to my insurer.
 
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What I want to do here @samisnake is use the opportunity I have to confront the person responsible for poor driving.

I have it in mind that, if my car wasn't as dirty as it was at the time, it could've had less scuff and that he may turn around slamming the door on me or tell me to f... off, as you said but I have all evidence and am able to trace him down.
So before I move on with my life and forget about it, I'll use the possibility of confronting the person, hearing the apologies (maybe) and if got a person who will own it up, maybe something off to cover up time I need to spend on the car to rectify it as I wasn't planning to do so.

You probably didn't had that chance and decided to let it go, once anger gone down.

Better try than spit in your chin later in saying that you gave up too early.

Maybe I'm wrong here but that's how I see the world

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I've been on both sides where I've hit and been hit with no damage, and it's been left at that.
When I first started driving in 06, I hit into the back of a vectra on vauxhall Bridge (ironic really). 2 massive guys got out saw there was no damage and got back into their car.
Few years ago someone backed into my brera while they were parking and I was walking to my car, was like wtf but I checked the car before flipping out, no damage so we parted ways in a polite manner.

In many ways you have it better as you have time to reflect and calm down yet youre adament you're gonna confront them. I honestly don't get what you aim to achieve other than some sort of personal victory that you've outsmarted them. Sometimes letting sleeping dogs lie is the better play.
 
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Good on you, if they aren't insured then why should they be allowed to continue to use the roads (badly). No excuse for getting that close to you, never mind hitting it. What if they knock somebody down and don't have insurance? They deserve to be punished and fined for driving without insurance and made to pay for any damage.

Is that a Silver or Jewish-Racing-Beige (Gold) Rav4? Looking at the way they are driving, it will most likely be somebody wearing high waisted slacks to hide their colostomy bag... Is there a Garden Centre near by?
 
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Finally, after repeat letters exchange, I have a reply from dvla with details I applied for.
However, they say that:

"DVLA does not hold a keeper on record for the date of event quoted. Unfortunately, no further information is available."

My jaw dropped below balls when read this.

How is that possible?

So, if I applied for registered keeper details and they reply with above bs and vehicle details I already have, this is a scam.

Last faith in police to serve some justice as doubt I'll get any further.

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