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Another hybrid conversion thread....

Welly Sep 14, 2010

  1. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    WMI..... :think:

    Where do I sign?
     
  2. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Anyway..... Damn red stupid hose thing.

    Popped to Forge and got one. Sadly, didn't have time to fit it there and then, as had a meeting in Tetbury. Pottered up there using as little boost as possible, and all was OK.

    Left the place and stopped in the nearest layby and broke out the toolkit... I love side of the road work... lol.

    Here is the OEM pipe:

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    Me thinks it be a spot on the broken side. This is the second one I've had on as well!

    Anyway, broken out the Forge one and fitted:

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    ^^ Hmmmmm. :think:

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    All done :). Toodles boost leak.
     
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2010
  3. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Adding to the thread, here is a snippet of my log file from the way home...


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  4. Alex C

    Alex C Well-Known Member VCDS Map User Audi S3

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    lol, you did it on the side of the road and still took photos for us at AS.N, :applaus:
     
  5. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Yarp, you can even see my little, crappy, Draper Value tool kit I keep in the car that I used to do it!

    I actually broke the ratchet and threw it into the hedge in disgust!

    What a POS.
     
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  6. JD09

    JD09 I'm not modding, I'm improving VCDS Map User

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    Lavly!
     
  7. RobbieRolex

    RobbieRolex Member

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    Most interesting g/s its a pity the 1.25 rules doesn't seem to apply here(323bhp :) ) or maybe it does but just not on the rollers.I am struggling to get my Hybrid over the 250gs mark,

    Did you log time(011) at all? and here is a log of mine from today for you to compare, your S3 is looking pretty frickin healthy.Bummer about the hose, i must get of my a$$ and do mine.

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    Last edited: Oct 28, 2010
  8. jojo

    jojo Looking for Boost! Staff Member Moderator Team Daytona Audi S3 quattro Audi A6 Audi Avant Owner Group

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    7280rpm Welly?, raised rev limit from Revo software?
     
  9. s3dave

    s3dave TFSI Hybrid Supporter

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    looks like it is breathing like a good un, could you add more timing pull?
     
  10. <tuffty/>

    <tuffty/> Badger 5 Edition...Its all about the flow... Staff Member Moderator Audi S3

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    Badger 5 Edition custom software mate... rev limit is what you want it to be... in this case (and mine) 7.8k :)

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  11. Madeley

    Madeley Member VCDS Map User

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    Can't get mine upto 7000rpm, it takes to long the turbo's all puffed out at 5000.
     
  12. <tuffty/>

    <tuffty/> Badger 5 Edition...Its all about the flow... Staff Member Moderator Audi S3

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    6.8k is std redline...

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  13. jojo

    jojo Looking for Boost! Staff Member Moderator Team Daytona Audi S3 quattro Audi A6 Audi Avant Owner Group

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    Good stuff, I drove a Revo stage2 with 3" downpipe, and that revved to 7200, the turbo spooled up very quickly in that car, which made it feel plenty quick.
     
  14. Broken Byzan

    Broken Byzan Photographic Moderator Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User quattro Audi A4

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    rev limits are for p*ssys LMAO

    (Says he with the 6800 limit he hits regularily just as he reaches the gearlever to change. GGGRRRR)
     
  15. finesse

    finesse Active Member

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    jojo you need to swap your AMD for a Revo asap
     
  16. metricspaces

    metricspaces Member

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    How close did you come to being on your original budget...would be good to know, for people thinking of going down the hybrid route :)
     
  17. badger5

    badger5 www.badger5.co.uk Site Sponsor

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    right - TIP update

    okies.. been busy welding tonight and stuff..
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    not tried it on a car yet... maybe over the weekend, sunday perhaps
     
  18. badger5

    badger5 www.badger5.co.uk Site Sponsor

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    and the comparison shot
    comparison of std tip and 3inch jobbie
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  19. jojo

    jojo Looking for Boost! Staff Member Moderator Team Daytona Audi S3 quattro Audi A6 Audi Avant Owner Group

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    Looking good Bill.

    Don't see the point, the extra revs don't give you any more power, ok, you can hit 60 in 2nd, but it's dead beyond 6500revs, better to change up! Plus I have shown that my 'classic' AmD stage1 map is a match against a Revo owner on ASN already. :)
     
  20. superkarl

    superkarl MAN OF STEEL

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    feckin good with a welder bill. with the comparison side by side you can then see the true potential of it, or theory of it. are you testing on wellys car?
     
  21. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    I haven't but I can do if you want. Will go out and and log when I get 5 mins.

    There looks to be more timing advance to be had from your engine dude.... 0 CFs across the board there...
     
  22. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Not really at the moment dude. Timing is dialled forward 1.5 degrees more than the map, and that has built in timing advance as well....

    Was 3 degrees, but CFs were getting a bit high under heavy load.
     
  23. RobbieRolex

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    WMI baby, Here is some timing from the spin home tonight, i will log it against 020 tomorrow so you can get an idea. The timing on the log is not crazy but it is advanced, i put *9 on this engine on a stage 2 with WMI and there was 0 Knock, *9 scared me so i brought it down to *6 for every day use.
    Haven't seen and EGT over 860c with WMI and if i do i reallt know i'm tearing the Bollix out of it.

    Finally sorted out a lot of basic issues with my Hybrid build so i am heading back to the dyno tomorrow to see what difference it made.
    Code:
    RPM    Temperature    Temperature    Ign. Timing
    RPM    °C    °C    °
    720    80    17    4.5 B
    720    80    17    3.0 B
    720    80    17    3.0 B
    720    80    17    2.3 B
    720    80    17    4.5 B
    760    80    17    0.8 B
    720    80    17    3.8 B
    760    80    17    2.3 B
    760    80    17    0.0 B
    720    80    17    3.8 B
    760    80    17    3.0 A
    760    80    17    18.0 B
    1160    80    18    20.3 B
    1200    80    18    21.0 B
    1040    80    17    18.0 B
    800    80    18    10.5 B
    960    80    18    10.5 B
    1240    80    18    13.5 B
    1560    80    18    16.5 B
    1920    80    17    18.0 B
    2200    80    17    2.3 B
    1960    80    16    3.8 B
    1760    80    15    13.5 B
    1600    80    15    24.8 B
    1320    80    17    12.8 B
    1120    80    17    9.8 B
    1200    80    17    12.0 B
    1240    80    16    11.3 B
    1320    80    16    12.0 B
    1400    80    16    12.8 B
    1480    80    16    13.5 B
    1560    80    16    12.8 B
    1640    80    16    12.8 B
    1720    80    16    13.5 B
    1800    80    16    14.3 B
    1920    80    16    15.0 B
    2000    80    16    15.0 B
    2120    79    16    14.3 B
    2200    80    16    14.3 B
    2320    79    16    14.3 B
    2440    79    16    14.3 B
    2560    79    16    12.0 B
    2720    79    16    11.3 B
    2840    80    16    7.5 B
    3000    79    17    3.8 B
    3200    79    17    4.5 B
    3440    79    17    6.8 B
    3640    79    17    9.0 B
    3920    79    17    11.3 B
    4120    79    17    12.0 B
    4320    79    17    13.5 B
    4560    80    17    14.3 B
    4760    80    18    12.8 B
    4960    80    18    15.0 B
    5200    79    18    12.8 B
    5360    79    18    12.8 B
    5600    79    18    15.8 B
    5760    79    18    15.8 B
    5960    80    19    15.8 B
    6120    79    20    13.5 B
    6240    79    20    18.0 B
    6400    79    21    18.0 B
    6520    79    21    18.8 B
    6680    79    21    18.8 B
    6800    79    21    10.5 B
    Yes i get scared after 7000rpm:sadlike:
     
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  24. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Will everyone stop twisting my arm about WMI? lol!

    OK dude, will get on the laptop on the way home from work.
     
  25. <tuffty/>

    <tuffty/> Badger 5 Edition...Its all about the flow... Staff Member Moderator Audi S3

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    Was thinking of organising a group buy on WMI.... ;P

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  26. s3dave

    s3dave TFSI Hybrid Supporter

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    I would be in...
     
  27. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    I hate you sometimes.

    OK - could be tempted.... :think:
     
  28. badger5

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    Good luck @ the dyno
    fingers crossed you realise its potential this time.
    all the best
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  29. Alex C

    Alex C Well-Known Member VCDS Map User Audi S3

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    Sorry Welly, saw this picture and thought of your gasket, lol
     
  30. badger5

    badger5 www.badger5.co.uk Site Sponsor

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    lol @ Gasket

    I have spoken to a gasket manufacturer and am waiting a sample of the material they propose..
    this would suit the hi-flow k04 manifolds..
     
  31. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    That will be useful.

    OK OK, the damn thing was ugly, but the bottom line is that it works! lol. Once fitted, no-one sees it. All good :thumbsup:
     
  32. Madeley

    Madeley Member VCDS Map User

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    lol, did he use one of them new fork and spoon CNC machines.....lol
     
  33. JD09

    JD09 I'm not modding, I'm improving VCDS Map User

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    Bloody nice work on the welding there Bill.

    On a slight side note, a lad I work with says hello. Justin Yates? I think you either helped or gave advice on the 1.8T GT3071R Dual Roller Bearing Turbo build behind this;

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  34. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    :faint:

    Can I have a go please....
     
  35. JD09

    JD09 I'm not modding, I'm improving VCDS Map User

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    www.aeonracingteam.com

    We need to do a "I go South, you come North" deal at some point buddy, NY perhaps. Be great to see Bill in action and see Paul's auto.
     
  36. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Yeah, should do that deffo! :thumbsup:
     
  37. badger5

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    Hi thanks..
    yes I remember - nice car
     
  38. RobbieRolex

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    Thanks, i pulled 305BHP and 329lb/ft today, the map still needs work, the power delivery is all over the place, the guys in ireland are struggling with this i think, so i might have to get on that ferry after all.
    I can post logs if ye all want.
     
  39. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Go on dude! You must have ALL the boost for that torque! lol.

    Logs = :yes:
     
  40. RobbieRolex

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    Boost gets you laid, LOL (so i hear)

    Apologies for the scans, my scanner is a piece of junk.What i noticed today is, its spikey very spikey(check out the twin peaks graph) and its running lean top end.See for yourself.It still needs work on the delivery but there is more potential here i feel.

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