Yep they have well and truly lost their minds .
I think the inflated prices and high APR's will price a lot of people out of buying them .
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I think the inflated prices and high APR's will price a lot of people out of buying them .
Their last moves have been indeed alarming. The Q8 facelift was quite a set back in design and I'm not sure about this one either. The recently released Q6 is a complete disaster inside and out and they even f'ed up the configurator of it. Badly. Audi's gone down fast, still two years back they had the most appealing lineup.
Exactly by the time you choose a colour and add the Tech Pack Pro to get the Matrix headlights and a couple of other bits well over £50K which is madness - The RS3 Carbon Black is £66K with add ons when I last speced one out of curiosity and like someone else said you used to get them for what they're charging for the S3 now£47520 is the starting price
I wasn't keen on the front end either and how the Audi rings sit at the top of the bumper .
Everything goes up I get that, but this is ridiculous along with their high APR's
Interior quality seems to be suffering too. Audi used to be the benchmark for interior quality.
I had an A4 B7 a few years back and that thing was built like a tank - padded plastics all round, it felt solid. It even had those little rollers on the door hinges to stop it getting blown open in the wind. None of that now. More cheap, scratchy, hard plastics and I'm really not a fan of large glossy black panels that seems to be a thing.
I looked at the 8Y when it came out at the dealers and wasn't that impressed with it. To me, the interior seems like a Friday afternoon job. I get things need to be lighter/eco friendly but then the price should reflect the lesser quality.
I think my FL S3 8V will probably be my last Audi unless they sort quality for the premium they charge.
I had an A4 B7 a few years back and that thing was built like a tank - padded plastics all round, it felt solid. It even had those little rollers on the door hinges to stop it getting blown open in the wind. None of that now. More cheap, scratchy, hard plastics and I'm really not a fan of large glossy black panels that seems to be a thing.
I looked at the 8Y when it came out at the dealers and wasn't that impressed with it. To me, the interior seems like a Friday afternoon job. I get things need to be lighter/eco friendly but then the price should reflect the lesser quality.
I think my FL S3 8V will probably be my last Audi unless they sort quality for the premium they charge.
Agreed. I’m currently being asked on the 8Y RS3 why I’ve bashed the 8Y
Having owned one for 2 years I think I’m entitled to pass judgement on it.
You are spot on regarding the 8V being the sweet spot.
Then there’s the Audi pricing of new cars, lol, who’s gonna be able to afford those prices along with insurance hikes etc……
I couldn't justify over £50k for the 8V RS3 when I got my S3, it's too much money for a small car. It was around £15k more than the S3 and I'm not sure it's £15k more car (granted I haven't driven an RS3)
Yes, the RS3 is very capable but end of the day, it's still a small car.
Our FL 8V RS3 was 52k but I got discounted to 46k
8Y I paid 59k for it.
8V I loved and kept it for 4 years
8Y never gelled with it and sold it after 2 years.
My time owning RS Audi products is at an end, they just aren’t special any more.
At £46k its more palatable. I guess everyone's needs and budgets are different.
If I was to go RS, I think the B7 RS4 is the one I'd have - seems to have aged well, even if it is a step down in tech.
That is a concern, it would have to be a second car. I bought a 2008 Porsche Cayenne a while back with my rose tinted glasses on, it spent more time at the specialist so I know that trap all too well!
What did you replace the 8Y RS3 with?
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Appears to be the way of the world today, not just VAG. Many have gasped for BMW's pricing lately, especially some of the i5 variants. Also Benz A jumped out of reach with the facelift, the base model didn't cost unreasonably much, but when you added a single option then boom.
What I'm smelling here is that Audi is trying to justify the high price of the new S3 with the torque splitter and improved dynamics as the car is now having some of the RS3 abilities. So FL RS3 will maybe have some +5 hp and they add some 10 000 €/£ to the price tag because RS could be clearly more expensive than the S-only.
What I'm smelling here is that Audi is trying to justify the high price of the new S3 with the torque splitter and improved dynamics as the car is now having some of the RS3 abilities. So FL RS3 will maybe have some +5 hp and they add some 10 000 €/£ to the price tag because RS could be clearly more expensive than the S-only.
The current S3's prices will fall that is always the case when a facelift arrives .
Watched autogefhul review/intro of this so named facelift...so they're offering what certain Golf R models already have 328 bhp and trick diff all straight from existing part bins,2 new bumpers "rear bumper is a JOKE" and new lights,but it appears to have the same seat coverings identical black plastic centre console and zippo lighter gear lever,the 8Y's Achilles heal has always been its dull as dish water interior,but why would Audi do anymore to the 8Y when it's all electric replacement waits behind closed doors
Add in Audi's high interest rates the new models high RRP...rare as hens teeth will this S3 be on uk roads
Add in Audi's high interest rates the new models high RRP...rare as hens teeth will this S3 be on uk roads
I must admit that I like the front of the new A3/S3 facelift (based on photos) but will reserve judgement until I see one in the flesh at the showroom. That especially applies to the interior, the quality of which can't really be assessed from photos. The S3 represents a much bigger upgrade mechanically (upgraded brakes, torque splitter from the RS3, DSG remap, etc) than a typical facelift (less so for the A3) but that increased price tag (base level = £47,520) is going to sting. That is £15k more than the entry level A3. Personally I think I would rather spec up a black edition A3 and keep the purchase price well below £40k, thus avoiding the ridiculous "luxury car tax". And it would have to be cash/trade-in, as the PCP interest rates are now way too high.
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Agree with most of what you're saying but the 1-5 tfsi 150 bhp in a car the size/weight of an A3 would not be a thrilling drive thats for sure.why isn’t there an A3 equivalent of a Golf gti? 265 bhp is perfect
I agree there used to be a 190BHP 2 Litre that you could get in the Golf or Cupra, but Audi couldn't get the engine so pulled it and have never brought anything back
So 1.5 or S3 it appears
Agree completely. Big performance gap between the 1.5 A3 and the 2.0 S3! VW lost the plot with the "all-digital" mk 8 Golf so that isn't an option for me. I had an manual S3 about 12 years ago and loved it. The new one is out of my price range unfortunately. My partner had a 2015 1.5 A1 DSG, which was a very good car. I think a high spec A3 (still available as a manual if I want to stay with a manual gearbox) might "have to do"..
I am the exact opposite l Frickin hate manual gearboxes,l cancelled my RS3 8Y Vorspung 15 months ago,since then I've been driving a manual facelift fiesta ST3, me and the Mrs dislike the fiesta a lot .....come September ill start looking for another car,Golf gti face-lift is the main contender
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S3 facelift now available to configure here in Germany.
www.audi.de
I am getting my S3 delivered next month, price 74.000, the exact same configuration now on the facelift lands me at 79 grand....
Zusammenfassung > S3 Sportback > A3 > Audi Deutschland
Auf einen Blick: In den Technischen Daten für den Audi S3 Sportback erfahren Sie alles Wissenswerte rund um Motorbauart, Höchstgeschwindigkeit und Hubraum.
I am getting my S3 delivered next month, price 74.000, the exact same configuration now on the facelift lands me at 79 grand....
You can order them with Black now if not a black edition - They're in the accessories
It has 33 more BHP and torque splitter for better handling but 0-60 is 4.7 - is that the same?
Reports vary a bit. Carwow's review says power is up 23 bhp (to 333) and torque up 20 Nm (to 420). That's a lot of grunt/pulling power for a small family car!
The 0-60 time (4.7 secs) is essentially the same (0.1 sec faster) but there are, of course, a lot more meaningful ways to measure/assess performance and handling.
New Audi S3 revealed: more power for posh hot hatch
Hot on the heels of the new Audi A3, the updated S3 has been revealed with refreshed styling and a more powerful engine.
Yes, sorry I forgot they had pushed it back up from 300 to 310 so 23 moreReports vary a bit. Carwow's review says power is up 23 bhp (to 333) and torque up 20 Nm (to 420). That's a lot of grunt/pulling power for a small family car!
The 0-60 time (4.7 secs) is essentially the same (0.1 sec faster) but there are, of course, a lot more meaningful ways to measure/assess performance and handling.
New Audi S3 revealed: more power for posh hot hatch
Hot on the heels of the new Audi A3, the updated S3 has been revealed with refreshed styling and a more powerful engine.www.carwow.co.uk
The facelift S3 will hit 60 quicker then the 4.7 they quote just look at the reviews of the R 20 years with the same power diff etc
as the facelift S3 .
On the Audi website it states 0-62 is 4.7 so 0-60 would be around 4.5
as the facelift S3 .
On the Audi website it states 0-62 is 4.7 so 0-60 would be around 4.5
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Hi all
Audi press release confirms price and order dates
S3 available to order from 15 May
Sportback prices
S3 Black Edition- from £46,925 OTR
S3 Vorsprung - from £52,400 OTR
Saloon prices add £565
Audi UK press release on prices and standard specs.
https://press.audi.co.uk/en-gb/releases/888
Couldn’t see any mention of cost of Akrapovic exhaust.
After looking at choice and options available to Germans, I have no doubt Audi UK will ruin everything for us again. ( assuming any of us can or want to to give Audi £50k plus for a new S3
Audi press release confirms price and order dates
S3 available to order from 15 May
Sportback prices
S3 Black Edition- from £46,925 OTR
S3 Vorsprung - from £52,400 OTR
Saloon prices add £565
Audi UK press release on prices and standard specs.
https://press.audi.co.uk/en-gb/releases/888
Couldn’t see any mention of cost of Akrapovic exhaust.
After looking at choice and options available to Germans, I have no doubt Audi UK will ruin everything for us again. ( assuming any of us can or want to to give Audi £50k plus for a new S3
Very helpful insight, thank you. I've put the 15th May in my Calendar. All being well I may just place an order then.
That press release (dated today) also says "A3 Sportback and saloon models are now available to order in the UK" but the Audi UK website still says "Coming soon". Will probably catch up in the next few days, but you'd think that they would coordinate these things...
Looking at the press release the spec's in the UK are fairly good granted there is a price increase. The spec levels in Ireland are not great due to taxes a lot of stuff on the option list. We have no prices yet but it was 45 grand for the 1.5 pre facelift.
Think I'll wait for the discounts to roll out . Anyone paying £52,400 for an S3 as more money than sense imo
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