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3 point middle rear belt

Discussion in 'A4/S4 forum(B5 Chassis)' started by jbh, Mar 11, 2014.

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    [Mar 11, 2014]
    ive noticed on a few cars they have the middle belt as a 3 point belt?
    now my cars an early avant and the rear seat lock is different to the others ive seen.
    so is there any way I could retro fit the middle 3 point belt?
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    Think you need to swap the locking pins for the backrest, getting the pretensioner to function would be difficult though.
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    is there a guide anywhere to do this?

    Yea that might be a problem. how are the center ones wired in? any ideas?
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    I think there was a post somewhere on here about somebody fitting the avant seats to a saloon (which I believe has the same mounting as early avants) and if I remember right there was a bit of welding involved, but I can't be sure on that.

    Pretensioner goes back to the airbag ecu so that would be pretty involved, so it may be that it just doesn't function?
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    [Mar 11, 2014]
    My FL B5 Avant has the three point centre belt, I'd need to have a look to see what's involved with it. Not even sure if the centre belt has a pretensioner.
    Perhaps FL rear seats installed would be the way forward?
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    yea if you could get a few pictures for me bud that would be great,
    I would only need the one side from a qts and I would be good.
    or either that I wonder how hard it would be to swap the material.
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    Will do, I'll get a look tomorrow. I think there are a couple in Perth scrap yard, let you know about them tomorrow too
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    cheers bud.
    I know the avant in my local has the 3 point middle belt but the interior is different and defo not what I would want in my car.
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    I'll get pics if any in Perth for you
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    you could just ignore the pretensioner.

    You will need to cut the brackets out of a later avant and weld them into yours though.
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    cheers bud
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    weldings not a problem.. my brother could do it and you would never know its been done..
    only bit that's got me worried is the pretensioner. the middle belt isint used a lot but occasionally it is which makes me think a 3 point belt would be a nice thing to have.
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    Why are you worrying about the pretensioner?

    Leave it disconnected. Its still far safer than a lap belt, and the seatbelt will operate just fine without it.

    Your airbag controller wont have the functionality to run the third pretensioner anyway.
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    Everything is all built into the rear seat, can't even tell if the middle has a pretensioner.
    I'm away to the scrappy shortly, need a new front window motor assembly, cable snapped last week.
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    if theres a middle pretensioner there will be some wiring coming out the bottom of the seat back and connecting to the car loom.
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    yea very true.. I do hate having the lap belt
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