3 point middle rear belt

[jbh]

ive noticed on a few cars they have the middle belt as a 3 point belt?
now my cars an early avant and the rear seat lock is different to the others ive seen.
so is there any way I could retro fit the middle 3 point belt?

 

[Sulli79]

Think you need to swap the locking pins for the backrest, getting the pretensioner to function would be difficult though.

 

[jbh]

Think you need to swap the locking pins for the backrest,

is there a guide anywhere to do this?

getting the pretensioner to function would be difficult though.

Yea that might be a problem. how are the center ones wired in? any ideas?

 

[Sulli79]

I think there was a post somewhere on here about somebody fitting the avant seats to a saloon (which I believe has the same mounting as early avants) and if I remember right there was a bit of welding involved, but I can't be sure on that.

Pretensioner goes back to the airbag ecu so that would be pretty involved, so it may be that it just doesn't function?

 

[foursprungdugtechnique]

My FL B5 Avant has the three point centre belt, I'd need to have a look to see what's involved with it. Not even sure if the centre belt has a pretensioner.
Perhaps FL rear seats installed would be the way forward?

 

[jbh]

My FL B5 Avant has the three point centre belt, I'd need to have a look to see what's involved with it. Not even sure if the centre belt has a pretensioner.
Perhaps FL rear seats installed would be the way forward?

yea if you could get a few pictures for me bud that would be great,
I would only need the one side from a qts and I would be good.
or either that I wonder how hard it would be to swap the material.

 

[foursprungdugtechnique]

Will do, I'll get a look tomorrow. I think there are a couple in Perth scrap yard, let you know about them tomorrow too

 

[jbh]

Will do, I'll get a look tomorrow. I think there are a couple in Perth scrap yard, let you know about them tomorrow too

cheers bud.
I know the avant in my local has the 3 point middle belt but the interior is different and defo not what I would want in my car.

 

[foursprungdugtechnique]

I'll get pics if any in Perth for you

 

[aragorn]

you could just ignore the pretensioner.

You will need to cut the brackets out of a later avant and weld them into yours though.

 

[jbh]

I'll get pics if any in Perth for you

cheers bud

 

[jbh]

you could just ignore the pretensioner.

You will need to cut the brackets out of a later avant and weld them into yours though.

weldings not a problem.. my brother could do it and you would never know its been done..
only bit that's got me worried is the pretensioner. the middle belt isint used a lot but occasionally it is which makes me think a 3 point belt would be a nice thing to have.

 

[aragorn]

Why are you worrying about the pretensioner?

Leave it disconnected. Its still far safer than a lap belt, and the seatbelt will operate just fine without it.

Your airbag controller wont have the functionality to run the third pretensioner anyway.

 

[foursprungdugtechnique]

Everything is all built into the rear seat, can't even tell if the middle has a pretensioner.
I'm away to the scrappy shortly, need a new front window motor assembly, cable snapped last week.

 

[aragorn]

if theres a middle pretensioner there will be some wiring coming out the bottom of the seat back and connecting to the car loom.

 

[jbh]

Why are you worrying about the pretensioner?

Leave it disconnected. Its still far safer than a lap belt, and the seatbelt will operate just fine without it.

Your airbag controller wont have the functionality to run the third pretensioner anyway.

yea very true.. I do hate having the lap belt