Hids in a 8p 2013
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It's nothing to do with the canbus error correction. Or even what setting the car is on with VCDS (ie halogen or xenon headlights). It appears to be the voltage draw and feedback from the ballasts. One of the first aftermarket kits I got off ebay I think I, and many friends who bought them at the time, were lucky that they were quality kits (even though they were cheap). Most of the ballasts on ebay kits (the slim black ones with the external igniter boxes) are rubbish giving flickery bulbs etc.
If you can wire stuff up, you could get a set of OEM ballasts (off any car, not just VAG) and see if you can get them to work with the aftermarket bulbs (can't see why not). This would be a safer option.
If you can wire stuff up, you could get a set of OEM ballasts (off any car, not just VAG) and see if you can get them to work with the aftermarket bulbs (can't see why not). This would be a safer option.
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He most likely will end up blowing his wiper motor...
The wiper motor can be repaired once it happens.
There are special HID kits for Audi A3, regular HID kits are not safe.
Search in the forum and you will find plenty of info.
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Just found this makes sense
hay guys and girls! i too like many of you have had the dreaded wiper motor not working after fitting a non genuine HID kit to my A3, however it does pay working for an Audi dealer having access to all sorts of wiring diagrams and speeking to a few wizards i guess is the best description for them there is a common shared earth behind the left hand headlight. the wiper motor and the headlights are both earthed on whats known as a spider earth , when you first turn the hid kit on the inital spike of power back feeds through the earth system and as we all know to well blows the wiper motor. the answer to this isint to just fit OEM HID headlights, you can cut the earth wire from the wiper motor and run a new earth from the wipers directly to the battery earth treminal completly bypassing the spider earth completly. i did this to my car last wednesday (3rd Feb 2011) and a week later its still working, i'll let you know if its still working in a weeks time or so, but so far so good! just thought i'd share my findings!
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On the A4 they have started by cutting the earth from the headlight and earthing that wire (From the headlight) to a different point.
That way you are taking the problem away from all the other earths rather than just protecting the wiper motor.
That way you are taking the problem away from all the other earths rather than just protecting the wiper motor.
Can you link us to one of these relays? i am well up for trying a wiper blowing kit, but with all the possible fixes!
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Tell him to ditch the HID's and either stump up the cash for the proper Xenon's or fit some 'oncoming-driver-friendly' Osram Nightbreakers or Philips Xtreme Vision bulbs and still have a functioning wiper motor.
Btw warranty won't cover the wiper motor if the HID's blow it.
Btw warranty won't cover the wiper motor if the HID's blow it.
Just found this makes sense:
"hay guys and girls! i too like many of you have had the dreaded wiper motor not working after fitting a non genuine HID kit to my A3, however it does pay working for an Audi dealer having access to all sorts of wiring diagrams and speeking to a few wizards i guess is the best description for them there is a common shared earth behind the left hand headlight. the wiper motor and the headlights are both earthed on whats known as a spider earth , when you first turn the hid kit on the inital spike of power back feeds through the earth system and as we all know to well blows the wiper motor. the answer to this isint to just fit OEM HID headlights, you can cut the earth wire from the wiper motor and run a new earth from the wipers directly to the battery earth treminal completly bypassing the spider earth completly. i did this to my car last wednesday (3rd Feb 2011) and a week later its still working, i'll let you know if its still working in a weeks time or so, but so far so good! just thought i'd share my findings!
That information is wrong.
There is no power going back through the earth system.
The problem is very simple, 25.000V cables produce interference. As simple as that.
Has been proved during years in other Audi forums, nothing new to rediscover.
There is no harness relay in the world that can prevent that since the interference are spread by air.
If someone wants to keep trying to rediscover the problem he will most likely end up with another broken wiper motor.
Since 2003 people have been trying warning cancelers, relays, battery harness, different grounding, using Fog lights circuit.... all of them proved nothing.
All you can think has been proved before.
There is a solution already to avoid the problem Not to use regular HID kits since they produce interference.
Only some special HID kits & some OEM are interference free.
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Hopefully you can buy them in the forum soon.
http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/welcome-section/204504-new-forum-question.html
http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/welcome-section/204504-new-forum-question.html
I know this guy from swedespeed.
Many fancy words & not a single solution.
He recommended a couple of relay harness, using "KBOWE" as he call it (basically a warning canceller) & even using the Fog lights cables to power the HID kits.
Some users that tried his "solutions" had broken wiper motors few months later.
You can not use cheap HID kits & make them safe for the wiper motor.
As you can see... some people try, they are lucky & they recommend to do something that blows away the wiper motor to someone else.
This is what happened to the people who tried the "solutions" from the guy in Swedespeed.
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People are just guessing with the battery harness, relays, resistors, etc...
If the wiper motor didn't blow away for some people is just good luck & is not proving anything, since others using the same setup do blow away theirs.
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But you can only supply LHD units (going by your now closed GB thread, unless I skimmed over something) which are obviously not good for us in the UK?
I thought we were talking about HID kits in this thread.
Who is talking about headlights?
Maybe Blazedani can reply to one of our members that bought one of his hid kits & so far has received no correspondence at all, they even started a thread to complain about this aswell, I suggest you reply to the guy, we all know its your company anyway.
Also i was clearly being sarc, and im glad you have linked this
I have commented and left my opinion in there.
