Mines 100% gives tyre temp as well
Can the tyre pressure reading be changed from ‘bar’ to ‘psi’
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Mines 100% gives tyre temp as well
Yes it can (or certainly I could on mine)Can the tyre pressure reading be changed from ‘bar’ to ‘psi’
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Yes it can (or certainly I could on mine)
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Well mines was at Audi today and at 4300 miles no obvious wear issuesDon't post much but I have been following this thread since the start and it is very strange that some cars are totally unaffected by this issue where as others are seeing it constantly even after alignment checks, my car has just gone through 4000 miles and is booked into Audi for an intermittent door locking issue with the keyless sensor on the passenger door on the 11th of March, I'm going to ask them to check the ware on the front tyres when its in, luckily it would seem I have one of the best dealers out there in Perth Audi so I will report on what they find. One thing that might be worth checking is what the alignment figures look like on cars that aren't effected, I know this might incur costs but it would be a good base line to compare with cars that do have the issue.
Well mines was at Audi today and at 4300 miles no obvious wear issues
I emailed Pirelli and they have asked for tyres to be sent to them so they can take a look... no doubt I’d end up with the same standard response as others.
I had my car in at Audi where they have checked the tracking, it was all setup/aligned correctly and as such they still cannot work out why this issue has happened, I've now got a new tyre and ill see how long this one lasts, however it is raised as a case within Audi and I will be chasing it up...
Well mines was at Audi today and at 4300 miles no obvious wear issues
Yes I had looked myself as I was aware what I was looking for but asked that it also be checked while they had the car for two days replacing the door sensorsIt isn’t obvious as such you’ve got to look at that kind of mileage, mine are off the car now having done 6000 miles and whereas you had to look very closely on the car it is now clear as day they are very much on their way to being naffed.
Never an issue with the 8P RS3 on either the OEM Continentals or later with the otherwise preferred Michelin Pilot Super Sport (MPSS) tyres in either of the 255/30 or 235/35 size.
That said, I neither have an issue with 235/35 Vredestein Wintrac Xtream
Someone (Matthew (!)) needs to collate a mileage/wear spreadsheet of issues with these OEM Pirelli tyres and get it forcefully presented to Audi UK and Audi GmbhH as obviously the product supplied is NOT suitable for application; just saying...
I’m confident it’s not Pirelli at fault. It’s the same Rubber and manufacturing process across the tyre surely. It’s got to be some major issue with the geometry set up.I’ve got a spreadsheet put together John, it lacks mileage but I’m struggling to get those on it so far to reply to what basic information I’ve listed like who they’ve contacted etc... forget mileage haha.
Both Pirelli and Audi have the spreadsheet, Audi just left it in my car when I collected mind you along with my timeline when it went in.
Pirelli really are outstanding with this.
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I’m confident it’s not Pirelli at fault. It’s the same Rubber and manufacturing process across the tyre surely. It’s got to be some major issue with the geometry set up.
Leaving tyre pressure and/or alignment aside (I do know of one 2018 RS3 on Pirelli tyres being rigorously checked at Stafford Audi and still suffering these same issues...) my questions:
Question 1) is this inside tyre wear issue reported on Pirelli tyres only?
Question 2) if a tyre from another manufacturer is fitted does the issue remain or is resolved?
Question 3) is the issue UK only or is it being reported elsewhere?
I’ve been in the shadows for a few weeks, non stop with work and stuff at home but finally getting back to normal now touch wood.
Car was at Bath Audi this week, no issues found except for acknowledging tyres are worn... I won’t go into detail as to the response I’ve gotten, would be pointless me doing so and rocking the boat.
Anyway last week when cleaning I noticed the one tyre wall had bubbled, f*#% I exclaimed. So that has forced me to remove my fronts prematurely, 6000 miles in. The inside edges were worn quite heavily as before and Pirelli now have the tyres to do what they do best... testing.
Pictures of both my bubble and the wear below
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I checked mine the other day before going in for service and they looked pretty much like yours, my car has done 12,000 klm. When I mentioned it to the service tech he’s standard response was its a high performance car with a lot of negative camber. I explained thet my last car ram - 2.5 and still even ware.
When I got the car back the report said tyre wear normal and their basic alignment report said all ok.
I’m sure they are fully aware of the the problem but it’s too big a problem to fix so they’ll continue to fob people off until the model is replaced and problem is buried.
I’m going to take some pictures of the tyres now and file along with their report, then take some more pics in a few thousand klm’s and send to Audi. The only problem is I plan to change out my springs soon so that blows my claim as far Audi is concerned.
I checked mine the other day before going in for service and they looked pretty much like yours, my car has done 12,000 klm. When I mentioned it to the service tech he’s standard response was its a high performance car with a lot of negative camber. I explained thet my last car ram - 2.5 and still even ware.
When I got the car back the report said tyre wear normal and their basic alignment report said all ok.
I’m sure they are fully aware of the the problem but it’s too big a problem to fix so they’ll continue to fob people off until the model is replaced and problem is buried.
I’m going to take some pictures of the tyres now and file along with their report, then take some more pics in a few thousand klm’s and send to Audi. The only problem is I plan to change out my springs soon so that blows my claim as far Audi is concerned.
Btw, I’m located in Australia any many others suffer the same wear problem here. Moreover many have repoted that the pirelli s are more easily damaged in pot holes. So all round they seem to be a less resilient tyre.
Thanks for your input. Audi do seem to be blaming the standard set up of these cars, I got told I should be over the moon with 10k of tyre life and even that 5k would be acceptable on this car.
It would cost a lot to fix and I agree, Audi won’t want to admit it. Audi UK have blatantly said that they don’t know about the issue, when they clearly do and Audi Technical are also now well aware.
The most proactive party in this is Pirelli, who really are trying to do something to fix this it’s just getting big enough numbers and enough evidence to prove it’s required. This issue will be raised in Germany next week in a big meeting with the quality department within Pirelli, fingers crossed. Reporting this is having a positive effect.... just need everyone to do it!
Great news thank you, the more you can send to Audi / Pirelli the better please. Yes if you fit springs Audi absolutely will not want to know, but Pirelli will still be interested.
I’ve seen a few damaged by potholes on here and it took me 16,000 miles to get one... wasn’t pleased. But I haven’t hit a pothole like that in a long while, it looked as if the sidewall on mine was pinched.
Well done for being persistant looking forward to the results of this .....
Not expecting anything fast, could take a long time before there is ever a fix for this if there ever will be but all I can do is try my best.
What’s important is all the necessary parties have been informed and this is becoming a high profile issue within Pirelli. But what’s key is numbers I can’t express enough, Pirelli can’t go back to HQ and say we have an issue.. they will want evidence and a single figure of sets of tyres investigated is just not enough.
Leaving tyre pressure and/or alignment aside (I do know of one 2018 RS3 on Pirelli tyres being rigorously checked at Stafford Audi and still suffering these same issues...) my questions:
Question 1) is this inside tyre wear issue reported on Pirelli tyres only?
Question 2) if a tyre from another manufacturer is fitted does the issue remain or is resolved?
Question 3) is the issue UK only or is it being reported elsewhere?
I chased the dealer today and the response back from Audi UK is that this is an isolated case and they are unaware of any other issues.
We need to gather all data from people who have got the issue and make a note to Audi UK, I think ill also be pursuing this via Audi Finance too.
I believe this was me/my RS3 Saloon.
I have a copy of the tyre receipts and my alignment check.
Agreed,
I can't for the life of me understand why you have carried out all this troubleshooting when there are aftermarket parts fitted? I would have thought both Audi and Pirelli insisting the car was at a completely stock setup? Having spacers fitted surely makes all the testing is null and void regardless of what the alignment reports suggest?
Did Pirelli do all this free of charge? Has Audi had your car back and forth free of charge under warranty too? Were they both fully aware there were spacers fitted?
Billy, you have no chance with aftermarket wheels, spacers and PS4's, I wouldn't even bother wasting my time if I had your setup.
Thanks for your input. Audi do seem to be blaming the standard set up of these cars, I got told I should be over the moon with 10k of tyre life and even that 5k would be acceptable on this car.
It would cost a lot to fix and I agree, Audi won’t want to admit it. Audi UK have blatantly said that they don’t know about the issue, when they clearly do and Audi Technical are also now well aware.
The most proactive party in this is Pirelli, who really are trying to do something to fix this it’s just getting big enough numbers and enough evidence to prove it’s required. This issue will be raised in Germany next week in a big meeting with the quality department within Pirelli, fingers crossed. Reporting this is having a positive effect.... just need everyone to do it!
Great news thank you, the more you can send to Audi / Pirelli the better please. Yes if you fit springs Audi absolutely will not want to know, but Pirelli will still be interested.
I’ve seen a few damaged by potholes on here and it took me 16,000 miles to get one... wasn’t pleased. But I haven’t hit a pothole like that in a long while, it looked as if the sidewall on mine was pinched.
You need to do a spreadsheet Matthew and attack Audi UK and get them to attack Audi GmbH, it was after all Audi GmbH that specified the tyres - not fit for purpose must be the opening salvo - and let Audi UK know your contacting dealers and will be advertising...
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Get all owner drivers to provide data. Write to ALL Audi dealers here in the UK and ask of their experience, you know Stafford Audi is dealing with one customer RS3/excessive Pirelli tyre wear - and that that car has been rigorously checked on their alignment jig and found nothing wanting. Hold on to ALL bills for replacement tyres. Once you've a reasonable list contact a suitable weekly motoring magazine as for sure this is a "SAFETY" issue - the inside of the tyre not being readily visible.
And with my automotive engineering hat on I find @ #222 "The Pirelli tyres seem to be somewhat of an oddball size as pointed out by the Michelin 255’s being too wide. The cars traction systems and Haldex has all been programmed and rigorously tested in conjunction with the rolling circumference of the PirelliP-Zero RO2’s. Change those and risk other faults..." very difficult to accept! knowing the 8P RS3 as I do and with the change of wheel rims and tyre configurations I use and them without any tyre wear issue whatsoever.
Oh, and don't forget to copy Andrew Doyle, MD Audi UK @ andrew.doyle@audi.co.uk, for sure he'll be interested if not happily so... Let him know you're doing this! Let him know you're going 'public' as for sure he'll be looking to 'SELL' more and with a HISTORY of low-speed brake squeal, and now excessive 'UN-SAFE' and so 'SAFETY' related tyre wear he may be persuaded to listen.
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PS: I couldn't 'attack' 'em on low-speed brake-squeal but for sure I'd be at 'em for a SAFETY related issue as this; no one expects an Audi owner to be a tyre expert, that's what you 'purchase' from Audi UK when you lay yer £s down for an Audi RS3!
I chased the dealer today and the response back from Audi UK is that this is an isolated case and they are unaware of any other issues.
We need to gather all data from people who have got the issue and make a note to Audi UK, I think ill also be pursuing this via Audi Finance too.
Do we already have some data collected? where can i input my details ?
If it is yours then you'll know Stafford Audi found zero issues with your car's alignment - and I for one trust Stafford Audi's expertise and personnel. As my view had been sought, and learning that yours was a car fitted with Pirelli tyres I did then direct the Service Representative to this ASN thread - and she (oops!) found that very interesting - what has been done since I have no knowledge.
I respectfully suggest you pursue the issue with Stafford Audi again alerting them to 'similar' issues - in writing would be best...