A3 saloon retrofit folding mirrors
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Just take the door card off, with three bolts, then you can see the door module. Plug it in, code via vcd, and do a test.
Do you have the door switch too?
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Do you have the door switch too?
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I had the same original door modules as you and replaced them with 5Q0 959 593 E, and 5Q0 959 592 E units purchased on e-Bay. But the new modules seem not be working properly as the windows are respondind backwards to the window sitches (they close when switch is pressed down and open when switch is pulled up). The mirror glass on the passenger side moves horizontally when the adjustment switch is moved vertically and vice versa. I couldn't find any coding on VCDS that could fix it. I'm guessing if it's possible that the new modules are not compatible with the car as they were previously installed in a Golf, even though they have the same part numbers. Did you have any of these issues with your retrofit?
Change your car country drive side... Right hand to left hand. That should fix it.
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Do you mean by checking/unchecking the box "Right-Hand-Drive (RHD) Model" in the door modules coding? I think I've configured both modules with the box unmarked as my car is LHD and I've purchased the modules from Germany, where cars are also LHD. Anyway, I'm going to double check those configurations tonight. Thanks.
Yes, that should work as I had the same issue. I use obd11, but it should be the same input that needs to be changed. Hopefully it should work and enjoy the new mirrors!
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I've tried do change RHD/LHD settings on the door modules and had a partial success. Marking the passenger module as RHD the mirror glass started to respond correctly to the adjustment switch. Now I have the left side module set as LHD and the right side set as RHD. Now the mirrors work, but the window opening/closing continue to respond reversely to the window switches on both sides. I even tried to change the driver side module to RHD too, but it had an even worse outcome since the switches on the left row began to control the windows on the right side and vice versa, and the driver side mirror stopped working.
I've monitored the response to the window switches using VCDS Advanced Measuring and noticed that the module is interpreting correctly the actions from the switches and correctly displays the information about a switch being pulled up or pressed down, but it seems to be sending the wrong signals to the window motors. It displays "opening" when the window is closing and "closing" when it's opening. It's not impossible to keep using the car with that kind of reverse functioning, but I'm afraid I can have problems with the automatic rain closing feature and find my car with windows open when it's raining.
P.S.: Another thing that I've noticed is also behaving abnormally is the door lock/unlock switch. The door locks normally with the car keys and automatically when the car is moving, but with the new door modules the switch locks the car when unlock symbol is pressed, and unlocks it when I press the lock symbol.
What car do you have as in US or ROW spec car? I can send you my coding but mine is a US 2015 A3 Premium. It's most likely the coding is still incorrect as you bought used and are still thinking it's on previous car.
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Try the long coding from below:
42 Door Electronics Driver Side
System description: TSG FS
Software number: 5Q0959593E
Software version: 0041
Hardware number: 5Q0959593B
Hardware version: 020
Serial number: 050715BG416645
ODX name: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO
ODX version: 006003
Long coding: 005E0A205000040000001002
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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52 Door Electronics Passenger Side
System description: TSG BFS
Software number: 5Q0959592E
Software version: 0041
Hardware number: 5Q0959592B
Hardware version: 020
Serial number: 030715BG301222
ODX name: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO
ODX version: 006003
Long coding: 001E07205C00048000000002
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
I believe this is with ambient lighting checked so you might need to turn that off. After your done, go to basic settings and do window actuator or regulator basic setting.
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I've checked your codings against mine and they don't differ much. My modules are coded as
Left (driver side): 001002205000040000001002
Right(passenger): 001006205200040000001002
There are some differences related to presence of lights in the door on byte 1, fuel and rear lid buttons on byte 2, which I don't have installed in my car. I've also noticed that you have some configurations on the passenger side that are different from driver side, like the "LIN-Databus inactive" on byte 7 or "Window Motor Post run active" on byte 10 that made no sense to me. Anyway I've tried to enable/disable these features, but they made no difference. Actually I've tried to change most of the features that seemed to be possibly related to the window/mirror problem and even tried copying the long codings from the old door modules (which worked perfectly) with no success. The only thing that made a difference up to now was coding the passenger door as RHD, which made the mirror glass respond correctly but I had to undo the change because the mirror was folding when it had to unfold and unfolding when it had do fold. My latest attempt was flashing the passenger door module using Odis and downgrading its version to 5Q0959592D, but again nothing changed, so it seems that the problem is somewhere else, or maybe the modules are defective. Anyway, I've ordered a new pair of door modules, this time making sure they were originally installed in an A3 8V so maybe I have better luck. Meanwhile I can continue to look for a solution for the problem. Maybe it will be useful for others with the same issues.
You can also ask @DJAlix to see if he has any solutions of backwards window switch controls. That's weird and I'd suspect it's a bad module.
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Actually @DJAlix was the first person I contacted when I installed the modules and noticed that they were working strangely. He had already helped me a lot with the activation of CCS, auto rain closing and TPMS, and I'm always impressed with how he manages to find the time to help people even being so busy with a lot of professional appointments. Alex said he would have a look at the problem but it seems that it doesn't have an easily immediately identifiable cause.
Yes, I'm thankful for him as he's helped me quite a bit with many issues. Well I hope you get it figured out soon so you can enjoy the new mirrors! BTW, what's CCA?
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I thought you meant the auto steering function... That be pretty impressions retrofit!
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UPDATE: Finally replaced the door modules with a pair of units that originally belonged to an A3 8V and everything worked perfectly, with only minor changes on coding in order to fit present/non-present features in my car.
While I was waiting for the parts to be delivered I worked the problems around by inverting the wires on the window regulator and mirror folding motors (A3 8V has the same window regulator motors used in Golf VII, exact same part numbers, but they are mounted in opposite sides, right side motor in 8V is mounted left side in Golf VII and vice versa, which may explain the inverted signals from the door modules to open/close windows). There was no much to do about the inverted X-Y axis on the mirror adjustment though so I had to deal with this.
I believe there must be a way to configure the modules to work correctly according to Audi or Golf by coding that I couldn't figure out, but buying a part that was originally installed in the same car model solved the problem (and my goal wasn't to become a VAG door module specialist anyway). Hope it helps someone who's planning to retrofit mirrors and have to replace modules.
While I was waiting for the parts to be delivered I worked the problems around by inverting the wires on the window regulator and mirror folding motors (A3 8V has the same window regulator motors used in Golf VII, exact same part numbers, but they are mounted in opposite sides, right side motor in 8V is mounted left side in Golf VII and vice versa, which may explain the inverted signals from the door modules to open/close windows). There was no much to do about the inverted X-Y axis on the mirror adjustment though so I had to deal with this.
I believe there must be a way to configure the modules to work correctly according to Audi or Golf by coding that I couldn't figure out, but buying a part that was originally installed in the same car model solved the problem (and my goal wasn't to become a VAG door module specialist anyway). Hope it helps someone who's planning to retrofit mirrors and have to replace modules.
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For the door modules, while in vcd or obd11, you need to specify if the car is RHD or LHD. This will correct the issue with the windows functioning backwards.
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That didn't work for me (check my messages from Jan 3). RHD/LHD settings changed only mirror adjustment, folding/unfolding and button rows on driver's side, having no influence on window regulator reversal or on the lock switch. And I tested two sets of door modules from Golf VII. But thanks anyway!
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@zooankski how did this all go for you? Interested to here your thoughts on how it went, and sourcing the parts etc. Thanks
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Just the basic coding required to display the options on the MMI and door control module codings.
I suspect in the case of the door control module coding I've already correctly coded it but would like to confirm as could have an issue with one of the mirrors.
thanks pal
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42 - Door Elect Driver
Byte 4
- Bit 4 = Active (Foldable Mirrors Installed)
- Bit 6 = Active (Comfort Mirror Folding active)
52 - Door Elect Driver
Byte 4
- Bit 1 = Active (Mirror Memory Function)
- Bit 2 = Active (Reverse Mirror Dipping active)
- Bit 3 = Active (Position Memory for Reverse Gear Mirror Dipping active)
- Bit 4 = Active (Foldable Mirrors Installed)
- Bit 6 = Active (Comfort Mirror Folding active)
09 - Cent Elect
- Access control 2-Funk Spiegelanklappen = Active
- Access control 2-Funk Spiegelanklappung Modus = by look command via remote control key
- Access control 2-Menuesteuerung synchrone Spiegelverstellung = active
- Access control 2-Menuesteuerung Funk Spiegel anklappen = Active
- Access control 2-Menuesteuerung Komfortbedienung einstellbar = adjustable
5F - Information Elect
- Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_car_mirror = activated
Thanks guys.
This guide was brilliant and helped a lot.
Thought I would add to this thread to keep it all together. the adaptation in 09-central electric depending on year or car could be either “access control 2” or “spiegelverstellung”. At least that’s what I found in obd11. The rest of the adaptation is the same as what djalix put up in the post above.
This guide was brilliant and helped a lot.
Thought I would add to this thread to keep it all together. the adaptation in 09-central electric depending on year or car could be either “access control 2” or “spiegelverstellung”. At least that’s what I found in obd11. The rest of the adaptation is the same as what djalix put up in the post above.
Hi All.
After installing tow-bar and backup camera, i'm focussing on folding mirrors. I have modules 5Q0 959 593 B. Is there someone who can confirm that these modules will work with folding mirror?
Also, I see here in NL also folding mirrors with side assist, does anyone has experience with this retrofit? What all is needed to get this work? For what I could find, radar modules 5Q0907566A and cable.
Any help is appreciated.
After installing tow-bar and backup camera, i'm focussing on folding mirrors. I have modules 5Q0 959 593 B. Is there someone who can confirm that these modules will work with folding mirror?
Also, I see here in NL also folding mirrors with side assist, does anyone has experience with this retrofit? What all is needed to get this work? For what I could find, radar modules 5Q0907566A and cable.
Any help is appreciated.
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@Colibri84 Recently I completed the folding mirror retrofit on my Dad's 8v Saloon and his modules were (5Q0 959 593 B - Drivers - 5Q0 959 592 B - Passengers) which supported the folding mirror functionality.
Hope that helps.
Hope that helps.
Many thanks, I have build in the radar modules and now waiting for cable (Kufatec) from radar modules to mirrors, afterwards coding all with VCDS and let's see if all is working proper, will post results here.
Hey guys! I have some coding issues with my LHD A3 8v 2013. I have fitted all the parts, and followed the coding from in here.
On the MMI Electric folding mirrors are set to "on". but nothing works - on door contact or when locking on the key.
On the MMI Electric folding mirrors are set to "on". but nothing works - on door contact or when locking on the key.
Do you have VCDS? If so, you can use the Output Tests to check if the mirror folding is working.
Still it is possible that your modules don't support the folding function.
I had the folding mirrors retrofitted too in my A3 Sportback. The folding mirros were working with a pair of modules 5Q0 959 593 A, and 5Q0 959 592 A that originated from an A3 coupe model that originally had the folding mirror function. (the folding mirrors came with those modules).
I even tried the mirrors with my orignal modules that were also 5Q0 959 593 A, and 5Q0 959 592 A, however, I got the '' function not supported'' error in VCDS.
So, the problem thereafter is, that in VCDS, I got errors from the rear doors (cannot be reached) even though everything worked fine. Since I don't wanted the errors, I found another pair of modules 5Q0 959 593 B, and 5Q0 959 592 B that originally came from an A3 sportback that also had factory installed folding mirrors. The right side worked fine. But the left module was defect. So I had to search again for a left module. Eventually found one for the left side 5Q0 959 593 E (with reference 5Q0 959 593 B) and now everything works fine with the doors/mirrors. The letters behind the part number seems, as far as I've noticed,just to be a mark of manufacturing period
Before I got the new sportback left side module, I tried a module that came from an A3 saloon, but got errors with the trunk - something. I had to remove a certain trunk lid function in VCDS in order to get the error away but still thought that wasn't the way it should be.
This means the modules are somehow parametrized in a certain way according to the specific model of your A3. The same part number doesn't automatically mean the same functions supported within it.
I have modules for folding mirrors if you need them. Pm me as I have an extra set as my originals didn't support it.
The modules I believe need to have the proper swop files to work.
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