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[ QUOTE ] What? Are you having a good laugh at yourself claiming a little Pug can take on S3's and the like!?!? Fool : [/ QUOTE ] I didn't want to get into school-yard 'my dads bigger than yours' discussion, but: 1. My car is an S3. I have never owned a 106. I didn't want the wifes old...

[ QUOTE ] Seeing as your wife thinks diesels are so slow compared to her modified 106... Ask her to have a go against any of the Superchipped 2.0TDI VW Golfs or Audi A3s that are knocking around... [/ QUOTE ] I give up!........

Then there is the other end of the scale: 54reg Mazda 6 Diesel type thing: Twisty A-Road: Seemed as quick as the S3 Private Reg: BMW 3 unbadged diesel: M6: Couldn't pull a gap from 70 - 130 T Reg Fiat Coupe: M5: Much quicker 60-120 - it went like the Ferrari. Driver gave me a knowing...

To add some fuel to the fire, here are some more of my real world findings. They are not on paper, not on a track, not with well prepared and practiced standing starts and not from my imagination. They are what I have found when 'playing' with other cars on the road. All speeds are in KPH of...

As i said, I dont want to get into a silly debate - I am merely reporting what I found in reality. I think I may have touched a nerve with some owners or ex owners of 3.2s. I would have bought the car i tried if i it had gone like i expected! PS The 106 had approx 140 - 150bhp, even less...

[ QUOTE ] As fast as your wifes 106 though? [/ QUOTE ] Nah nothing is! Actually she has a merc C230K now, which is slow and crap.

Not having them lined up side by side from a standing start I couldn't say. On a section of road where I know my cars speed at a marker from the lights, with a standind start, my car hits 90, the A3 3.2 I drove managed about 75. On the road, the 3.2, with me driving couldn't pull a gap on...

The wifes 106 wasn't standard - gas flowed, induction, exhaust, ecu. It kept up with my S3 (180BHp/ton) as well at least up to 80 - which is a bit embarassing.

The Chinese have been whispering again. I spoke to my source again and he said the new S3 engine will be 'based' on the VAG group 3.4NA engine, which has 280PS. In reality I suppose this doesn't mean the production car will have 280PS. Still no further info on the RS3 though.

The car was supposedly modified by Listers themselves as they do performance tuning in house now. It was definately a 3.2, it was the wife who asked if it was a diesel - she was being sarcastic about the performance. It was new so may have needed more running in? A standard 3.2 probably only...

[ QUOTE ] That must be one the fastest S3 on the planet to leave 15mph (eurh I mean km/h...) behind a 300bhp 3.2....... [/ QUOTE ] Or the slowest 300bhp 3.2 I wonder if Listers game me the right car? The wife asked if it was a diesel! It couldn't pull away from her 106GTi either. I...

I have the following info on the new S3 / RS3 from an industry source: * S3 is a certainty and will arrive with a 3.4 NA V6 with 280PS and will probably arrive Q1 2006 * RS3 has not been "rubber stamped" by the "board" but current candidate is 3.4 V6 VG Turbo * S & RS model development will...