K03 S in the "special edition(s)" BUL engine???

Now I shall tell you a story, well cut down a long way...
my old bus had to have a new turbo fitted at approx. 36k ish miles , under audi warranty due to a fault that wasn't repairable.
They had my car for almost two weeks to do the fix and the turbo assembly wasn't in uk stock and had to come from germany as a special order......when I said to audi wasn't the turbo the same as other 2.0tfsi units they said not which was why it had to come from germany as a special parts order, not off the shelf.

this may account for why my old bus has allways been a fast and mapped out better at 270ish ….maybe something in it then.

I have seen many articles that show the BUL has numerous different engine components to the other engine coded units...maybe this just adds another to the list.

when I had my old bus remapped a while back it went to 270 very easily and i'm only on stage 1 and a bit, mapper said he could have gone further really but I asked to leave it at 270.
I do have my doubts about a many things say , but I did see the old turbo come out and the paperwork for the replacement which did backup what they said, wasn't just them saying some old rubbish for my sake.
I do think that it maybe engine number relavant aswell as early BUL engine codes had numerous parts revised quite quickly.

can do when I can find them …...my filling system is very efficient , sometimes to efficient..lol

And I see a difference already , that part number is different and not on the parts list, well not in that 06D-145-701G format anyway.

but shares a multitude of numbers too.

not sure yet what the G revision difference is , nothing comes up on web specifically other than its a BUL specific fitment , strange its not shown in official parts listing though, I still thinks is a " special item"

found it listed here , looks to be specific fitment.

maybe this will help clarify things...

As some will be aware following on from a discussion on one of the boards I decided to drop Borgwarner an e-mail asking them some simple questions regarding the K03 turbocharger and what some have called the K03S.

The Question
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I type this e-mail to you on behalf of many Audi enthusiasts, and myself as an Engineer, who ponder on the same question, as to the interchange-ability of the K03 and K03S turbocharger units.

As a member on one of the largest Audi forums on the web
(www.audi-sport.net), as well as a member on many other Golf and Audi forums, I have often seen this subject raised but with no definitive answer ever given, due to a lack of information available. Audi dealers are not technically inept enough to offer an answer, Audi UK are not interested in answering and most aftermarket tuners opt for either the K04 or other brands of turbo so appear not to of looked into the subject.

So the questions are simple;

Can the K03 turbo (5303 988 0011 or 5303 988 0053) be directly replaced by the K03S (5303 988 0052 or 5303 988 0026) in terms of the intake and exhaust housing dimensions?

Is K03S the correct designation for the latter turbo mentioned above?

Obviously if a K03S was fitted an engine map could be changed to suit, but would a standard turbo map for the K03 be suitable for running a K03S on?
or would a loss of power be expected? and are the characteristics of the two very similar?

I hope you can assist with the above and any information you could supply would be gratefully accepted.

It's taken me a couple of weeks to get a response, but the response was well worth it, I think yóu'll agree.


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The Answer
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Dear Sir,

thank you for your interest in our products.

First of all, we don't produce any turbo that we call K03S. But I hope I can
answer your questions with the following explanations.

All the following turbos have the same installation dimensions and
thermodynamical performance. The differences are only in the actuator that
opens the turbine bypass valve:
K03-011 (5303 988 0011) 150 hp, 65 N actuator
K03-026 180 hp, 85 N actuator
K03-035 180 hp, 85 N actuator
K03-044 150 hp, 65 N actuator
K03-045 156 hp (Ibiza Cupra), 85 N actuator with 2 ports
K03-049 150 hp (Sharan/Alhambra), 65 N actuator
The 180 hp versions have an actuator with a higher opening force due to the
higher exhaust gas pressure (which is a consequence of the higher boost
pressure). Otherwise the valve would be pushed open by the exhaust gas
pressure.

The following turbos are a further development (since 2000) and have an
improved and slightly larger compressor while using the same turbine (still
with the same installation dimensions):
K03-052 180 hp, 85 N actuator
K03-053 150 hp, 85 N actuator
K03-058 150 hp/180 hp, 85 N actuator

Consequentially, putting a 180 hp turbo on a 150 hp engine will not bring
about any change in performance, but putting on a K03-052/053/058 instead of
the older versions will bring a slight improvement in engine efficiency.
Additionally, with re-mapping the ECU you can achieve about 215 hp without
danger of overspeeding the turbo. With the older turbos, 195 hp is the
limit.

With the K04 that's also commonly used (5304 950 0001) the power output
should not be more than 220 hp. That means, changing a K03-052/053/058
against a K04 does not make a lot of sense.

I hope that these details answer your questions. If you need more info, one
of our service distributors will be glad to help you. Their addresses are on
our website www.turbodriven.com.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Best regards,
BorgWarner Turbo Systems GmbH

Dan_Avant said:

This is the data plate from the original turbo which came off of my car in May this year. Just says K03, not K03s.

My car is a 2007 special edition with BUL engine code

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where is the plate located on the turbo Dan, i'm going to have a look at mine if it easy to see that is.

yes its an old article but they do state they don't make an K03s , which was at the start of this thread, it doesn't make any difference what engine we discuss , they are clear that they don't make such a unit, so kinda stops this thread in it's tracks now from my point of view, its not fitted to special edition therefore not really relavant.