Aggressive Wheel Fitment Thread
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Yeah I'll get some posted. If I can get some tyres tomorrow I'm gonna get the wheels on this week and make sure they're ok before I refurb them
naughts4187
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I've made a decision that my 9 x 19's ET52 will poke too much on the front so I'm going to be going for 8.5 x 19's instead, similar ET to keep the OEM look.
Anyone fancy some TT MK2 speedlines, fully refurbished in June and currently stored in my nice warm house in Audi wheel bags.
Anyone fancy some TT MK2 speedlines, fully refurbished in June and currently stored in my nice warm house in Audi wheel bags.
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20x9 +32 (all around)
Tires: 235/30/20
No rubbing.
20x9 +32 (all around)
Tires: 235/30/20
No rubbing.
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Looks great, what suspension?
We have an S3 saloon on order that'll arrive late March so we should be contributing to this as we will be changing the wheels, brakes and suspension on it pretty much immediately.
We have an S3 saloon on order that'll arrive late March so we should be contributing to this as we will be changing the wheels, brakes and suspension on it pretty much immediately.
Not my car. I believe he is on H&R super sports.
Look forward to seeing what you will do with yours.
Steph67
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I've been told that the saloon has wider wings / more space than the hatch, but not by how much. I'm wondering firstly if this is true, and if it is, how much less room there is under the hatch wings.
I'm on 8.5"s at +48, and know that +40 is a comfortable fit at this width. Is there anyone with a hatch that has gone out further that the equivalent of 8.5" wide at +40?
I'm thinking of spacers, albeit I probably won't run them all the time. I know that 8mm will be fine, but am considering 10mm, which would take me down to +38, and wondering whether to take a punt on 12mm and hope there's no issue with rubbing. It seems that this would be fine (with room to spare) on a saloon, I'm just not sure about the hatch.
Anyone any thoughts on this?
I'm on 8.5"s at +48, and know that +40 is a comfortable fit at this width. Is there anyone with a hatch that has gone out further that the equivalent of 8.5" wide at +40?
I'm thinking of spacers, albeit I probably won't run them all the time. I know that 8mm will be fine, but am considering 10mm, which would take me down to +38, and wondering whether to take a punt on 12mm and hope there's no issue with rubbing. It seems that this would be fine (with room to spare) on a saloon, I'm just not sure about the hatch.
Anyone any thoughts on this?
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I ran 19x9.5 et 40 on the rear, small ammount of poke, no rubbing at stock height. Was just 19x8.5 et45 at the front though. It's the front arches liner that will no doubt cause issue, the arch is a lot thicker compared to the back. All depending how low you are of course.
My daily wheels will be back on in a week or two so I'll see how they fit not that I've got the air too
My daily wheels will be back on in a week or two so I'll see how they fit not that I've got the air too
Steph67
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Thanks for this.
I'm 15mm lower, but with the 5mm larger rolling radius of the 19s the ride height drop is only 10mm but the arch gap closure is 20mm.
From what you're saying, it looks like there's a lot less room up front than on the saloon. Rabbit222 is running 8.5 at +32 up front (including spacers) on his saloon with the same springs as mine with no rubbing (and it looks fantastic). It might be best to try a set of 10mm first. If they're too much for the front (& it sounds like they might be) I could fit them to the rear and go smaller at the front. If they're OK on the front, I might then go 12mm on the back.
I just need to measure the bolts on the 19s now to see what size I'll need.
I'm 15mm lower, but with the 5mm larger rolling radius of the 19s the ride height drop is only 10mm but the arch gap closure is 20mm.
From what you're saying, it looks like there's a lot less room up front than on the saloon. Rabbit222 is running 8.5 at +32 up front (including spacers) on his saloon with the same springs as mine with no rubbing (and it looks fantastic). It might be best to try a set of 10mm first. If they're too much for the front (& it sounds like they might be) I could fit them to the rear and go smaller at the front. If they're OK on the front, I might then go 12mm on the back.
I just need to measure the bolts on the 19s now to see what size I'll need.
Yeah the front arch liners are thicker, that's where mine rubs now. Considering cutting them or removing them but don't want all the road grime getting up into the body.
You can get wider arches for the fronts but at a cost of £475 a pair before paint it isn't cheap. Maybe considering In the future but I'll see how both sets of my wheels fit first
Steph67
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Cheers Marc.
Just to be sure, I'm assuming that the rubbing you're getting now is since you had the air fitted, and there was no rubbing at stock height at +45?
Ta
Just to be sure, I'm assuming that the rubbing you're getting now is since you had the air fitted, and there was no rubbing at stock height at +45?
Ta
@marc:
if ur rubbing on the arch liner on turns only just let the ties rub through them, eventually the rubbing will stop. As steph asked, what height are you rubbing at?
@Steph:
Have you measured how much free space u got? Approximately atleast. or see if you can cut a piece of plastic or something solid, 1cmx5cm and use it to see if it touches the fender.
and btw Rabbit is at +30 on a 8.5 (not +32)
Id just cross my fingers and get the 10mm fronts and 12mm rears. Worst case scenario is you can sell the spacers, or roll the fenders.
Someone really needs to measure the clearance difference between a stock hatch vs sedan . i really wanna know if there is a difference.
if ur rubbing on the arch liner on turns only just let the ties rub through them, eventually the rubbing will stop. As steph asked, what height are you rubbing at?
@Steph:
Have you measured how much free space u got? Approximately atleast. or see if you can cut a piece of plastic or something solid, 1cmx5cm and use it to see if it touches the fender.
and btw Rabbit is at +30 on a 8.5 (not +32)
Id just cross my fingers and get the 10mm fronts and 12mm rears. Worst case scenario is you can sell the spacers, or roll the fenders.
Someone really needs to measure the clearance difference between a stock hatch vs sedan . i really wanna know if there is a difference.
Stock height was fine yeah, I have a tendency to ride quite low so the tyre catches on bumps now and then, rubbing maybe wasnt the best word, it's just as the wheel moves up. I'll grab some pictures this week of my usual ride height so you get the idea of how much play you've got before catching.
I'm gonna see how I get on at my current ride height until the weather is better then play around to see how low I can get away with.
I'll probably just end up buying some wide arches
Steph67
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OK, tried the measure as suggested, looks pretty tight at the front, but an easy fit at the rear. So I'll be ordering 12s for the rear, now I just need to decide whether to play it safe and go for 8s at the front, or take a chance on 10s. Not sure why I'm thinking so much about 2mm, Freud would have a field day I'm sure.....
Either way, I'll be ordering tomorrow. Sadly I can't just buy the standard H&R kits with bolts, as the bolts for the 19s are 5mm longer than stock, and tapered head rather than the stock radiused head.
Is it the saloon that you've ordered?
Steph67
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Thanks again, some pics would be good. Regardless, I'll take the plunge and buy spacers tomorrow, will likely change my mind on width choice several times between now and actually buying them. If they arrive in time, I'll get them fitted at the weekend and post a couple of photos.
Looking forward to seeing yours once you get your dailys back on.
Whats your tire size?OK, tried the measure as suggested, looks pretty tight at the front, but an easy fit at the rear. So I'll be ordering 12s for the rear, now I just need to decide whether to play it safe and go for 8s at the front, or take a chance on 10s. Not sure why I'm thinking so much about 2mm, Freud would have a field day I'm sure.....
Either way, I'll be ordering tomorrow. Sadly I can't just buy the standard H&R kits with bolts, as the bolts for the 19s are 5mm longer than stock, and tapered head rather than the stock radiused head.
Is it the saloon that you've ordered?
yea most aftermarket wheels required tapered heads. Im pretty sure H&R sell tapered head bolts.
Oh and yea, im getting a saloon. They dont sell hatch backs where i live.
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All DR-Systems require longer wheel bolts. These must be ordered separately. H&R Wheel Spacer Bolts are listed here.When ordering wheel bolts, please follow these guidelines:
a) If possible, name the brand of wheel.
b) New bolts must be longer than the original bolts by the width of the wheel spacer used.
c) The bolt head must be identical to the existing bolt:
Taper 60° End digit 01
Round head for M12/d24 mm, for M14/d28 mm End digit 02
Round head for M12/d26 mm (e.g. OE VAG-wheels) End digit 03
Flat head for Porsche original wheels M14 x 1.5 End digit 06
d) Safety guidelines
(Minimum number of turns for wheel bolts / nuts):
M12 x 1.25 = 8.0 turns = approx. 10 mm of load bearing shaft length
M12 x 1.50 = 6.5 turns = approx. 10 mm of load bearing shaft length
M12 x 1.75 = 6.5 turns = approx. 12 mm of load bearing shaft length
M14 x 1.25 = 9.0 turns = approx. 12mm of load bearing shaft length
M14 x 1.50 = 7.5 turns = approx. 12 mm of load bearing shaft length
1/2" UNF = 8.0 turns = approx. 11 mm of load bearing shaft length
e) Please ensure that the wheel bolts do not damage any part of the brake system (ABS sensors, etc.). Turn the wheel by hand and check clearance on the inside of the hub. The wheel should rotate freely. (Maximum tolerance for some vehicles is only 2mm -- i.e. Rear Axle Mercedes).
Steph67
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I'm on 235/35s, anything lower would be a nightmare with the p*ss poor quality of some of the roads locally.
You got any other mods planned other that the wheels / height?
Nothing too crazy, gonna start with a tune and wheels, drop will happen have to happen later. My local Audi dealer is apparently very anal about mods and voiding warranties, so if i can get away with it; Coils, Downpipe, Intake and possibly an IC.
You?
Steph67
Renowned philanthropist and pathological liar
All DR-Systems require longer wheel bolts. These must be ordered separately. H&R Wheel Spacer Bolts are listed here.When ordering wheel bolts, please follow these guidelines:
a) If possible, name the brand of wheel.
b) New bolts must be longer than the original bolts by the width of the wheel spacer used.
c) The bolt head must be identical to the existing bolt:
Taper 60° End digit 01
Round head for M12/d24 mm, for M14/d28 mm End digit 02
Round head for M12/d26 mm (e.g. OE VAG-wheels) End digit 03
Flat head for Porsche original wheels M14 x 1.5 End digit 06
d) Safety guidelines
(Minimum number of turns for wheel bolts / nuts):
M12 x 1.25 = 8.0 turns = approx. 10 mm of load bearing shaft length
M12 x 1.50 = 6.5 turns = approx. 10 mm of load bearing shaft length
M12 x 1.75 = 6.5 turns = approx. 12 mm of load bearing shaft length
M14 x 1.25 = 9.0 turns = approx. 12mm of load bearing shaft length
M14 x 1.50 = 7.5 turns = approx. 12 mm of load bearing shaft length
1/2" UNF = 8.0 turns = approx. 11 mm of load bearing shaft length
e) Please ensure that the wheel bolts do not damage any part of the brake system (ABS sensors, etc.). Turn the wheel by hand and check clearance on the inside of the hub. The wheel should rotate freely. (Maximum tolerance for some vehicles is only 2mm -- i.e. Rear Axle Mercedes).
Brilliant - thanks and much appreciated!!
Steph67
Renowned philanthropist and pathological liar
Next up is an exhaust, almost went for a Milly last week, but now waiting for BCS to finalise theirs for the 8V, which will be a lovely bit of kit to have if it's done before I run out of patience. Hopefully be ready in 4 or 5 weeks, think it'll definitely be worth the wait though. As soon as that's on, it'll be in for a stage 1 custom map. I'll be done after that I reckon, then will enjoy the end product for a couple of years.
At least that's what I tell myself...........
I'll try and get some tomorrow on my dinner break.
I'm just hoping they fit properly lol, don't want to have to buy different tyres for the rear too, or worst case scenario, the fronts don't fit and my show wheels will be a pain too ha
Another one, Most aggressive thus far (im ignoring the japnese guy with pulled fenders.):
VIP Modular VX110 9&9.5 x 19in ET 35ish (don't remember exact number)
19/235/35 Pilot Super Sports
VIP Modular VX110 9&9.5 x 19in ET 35ish (don't remember exact number)
19/235/35 Pilot Super Sports
Steph67
Renowned philanthropist and pathological liar
OK, 10s and 12s ordered, should hopefuly be delivered by Friday. Will try to find enough time to get them fitted on Saturday and will feed back then.
Steph67
Renowned philanthropist and pathological liar
I've still got them yeah, waiting on two new tyres for the fronts with more stretch then a refurb. I keep saying they'll be done next week then something gets in the way. Paid for my show wheels last week so hopefully get them sorted and in for refurb this Saturday
Steph67
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I am indeed
they'll be test fitted at the end of this month then kept until the first show. Possibly fitted uk
After the long wait my daily wheels are finally on and they fit perfectly. Just the one photo for now, did a quick photoshoot after fitting so I'm waiting for those photos to be sent over
Apologies for the finger in the way lol
Apologies for the finger in the way lol
Cheers mate, so glad they went on, wasn't sure I'd get the backs in enough
Steph67
Renowned philanthropist and pathological liar
Arch looks pretty much maxed out, looking forward to seeing more photos. Did you have to play around with your preferred 'daily' ride height?
Still waiting for delivery of spacers (been a fortnight) chased them again today. Will get them on and some pics posted as soon as they arrive.
Still waiting for delivery of spacers (been a fortnight) chased them again today. Will get them on and some pics posted as soon as they arrive.
Steph67
Renowned philanthropist and pathological liar
Yeah it was touch and go for a while with the arches, just gave in in the end and brought it down. Yeah my ride height has been altered since the wheel will hit the outside of the arch rather than just the liner if I hit a serious bump. Still need to fine tune it but gonna run it as is for a while.
Ended up running 215/35/19 on the front and kept the 235/35/19 on the rear
