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Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by Westy, May 9, 2011.

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What colour S3 Avus for the Track?

  1. Porsche Guards Red

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  2. Kawasaki Green

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  1. Rosso TT
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    As tuffty said i too have a bad fuel pump, so bad that as soon the turbo starts to spool up fuel pressure goes down to 2 bar (with 3 bar fpr)
    Fuel pump swap is pretty much straightforward, if you want to save some quid you could buy only the swirl port and pump and use your lid, fuel sender, ring screw and rubber seal.

    AUDI A3 TT 1.8T 3.2 V6 INTANK FUEL PUMP 183VG0630 | eBay
    Or this complete
    OEM AUDI TT QUATTRO (8N) - Fuel Pump 02-06 | eBay
    Before you buy make sure you tell them your chassis number, there are 2 types, pre 2002 and post 2002.
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    Westy Double Dark Side! Diesel & 8P

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    Jesus, not cheap then! How much are the ones from Audi?

    So how come the inline pump didn't work for you?
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    About £220+VAT
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    The intank can't keep up with the inline even though she sn't producing any pressure, did a bit of an experiment yesterday by disconnecting the fuel hose that feeds the injector rail and stick into a bucket filled with petrol then i connected the bosch 044 to the injector rail and dipped onto the bucket with petrol, connected the 2 pumps electrically together and fired up the engine and i could see the fuel level dropping into the bucket.
    Don't be tempted to buy any so called uprated intank fuel pumps, there isn't any, i made this costly mistake.
    Reputable tuners use inline like walbro and bosch.
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    So I might as well forget the idea of running an inline pump to help out and just go straight for an in tank.
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    Not as bad as Tam's cigarettes :)


    Good luck fella, since your staying K04, strive for 300bhp if possible ......
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    Haha yeah he also needs to vent somewhere else.

    300bhp will be very difficult on the K04. At this stage it's costing more and more to extract 1 more bhp out of it.
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    Thanks Jason. Could you post up the part number from ETKA for me please.
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    8L9919051G - £220.37+VAT

    It also actually also fits a 4motion mk4 golf engine codes BFH and BHR and listed as a VDO model.

    Also looking at the margins in cost and retail theres quite a bit ;) £186 inc vat it could be done for lol. Through me anyway..just depending on where you are or could be. If you`re sometimes in cambridgeshire then you`d come past Bedford wouldnt you? Although dont know how often you come that way.
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    A big thanks to Jason for sorting me out a new pump. :salute:
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    Your inbox is full lol. Phone me back if you can.
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    Fitted one of Bill's thingy gaskets tonight. It spaces the inlet mani away from the head to help prevent heat soak in the mani:

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    While the mani was off I inspected the state of the TB. Not a drop of oil in sight so the new FMIC and my catch can are doing well:

    [​IMG]
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    I was really hoping you'd get closer to 300 HP :(
    What airflow readings are you getting now??

    Large port head and wmi next? Hehe, just tempting ya
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    300bhp is damn hard to get close to with the K04. It's now going to be down to fueling and cooling to allow for more boost and timing to get some more horse out of the old girl.

    I am considering WMI or maybe just a spray kit for the FMIC. New fuel pump is getting fitted next week so I will head back to bill's again at some point with either WMI or a spray kit and we'll see what we can do.
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    I know its hard. But with the 3 inch tip and your brand new turbo it could get closer than what's been achieved in the past.
    It's a well sorted car you got now dude, hopefully mine will be as good a standard one day.
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    Nice work, westy suggestions - why not sell the family to buy an ah fab cooler + wmi + bigger pump thingy which goes above & beyond the job?

    :) you've come too far not to
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    I could go totally mental mate but the whole idea was to create a sorted K04 car with mods that would help others on this forum. Not everyone can afford a huge turbo and custom made FMIC ;) so I'm doing it the pikey way.
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    That is absolutely respectable, keep it going :)
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    I reckon it's the exhaust manifold that's stopping you getting closer to 300bhp, seeing as Welly made almost 40bhp on the hybrid going from the OEM manifold to the XS stainless, the OEM manifold must be the restricting factor there.
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    I think you could be right mate.

    Welly was also able to add endless amounts of timing to his map due to the efficient cooling from his FMIC and WMI kit. I'm currently looking into WMI ;)
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    His largeport head helped too tbh mate... small ports don't seem to like much timing on high boost... acid test will be Danes...

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    Hmmm, shame the BAM has a small port really. I'm not going to start messing about with heads.
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    Pump is at St Ives awaiting collection :D
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    Cheers mate you're a legend. If you're ever out in St. Ives let me know and we'll have a drink together.

    Right, time to whip the gf into shape and get her over to Vindis :whip:
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    Next time you`re up at hers give us a shout. Only takes half hour from Bedford.

    They all know she`s going to pop in this afternoon and what she`s collecting so will be expecting her later on. Invoice is stapled to the box and seal is too.
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    The GF said she'll collect it Friday afternoon.
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    Westy, the number plate surround you got. Does the whole number plate sit into it or does it just stick to the bottom of the plate. From looking at the pic on ebay its hard to tell.
    Cheers
    Dave.
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    Lol ok i`ll let them know
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    Bit of a backward step tonight, a big one!

    I removed my drivers SMIC and put the new pipework on so I was just running my FMIC. I went out for some logging and got the following results:

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    Great airflow but check out the temps!!!

    It then got worse:

    [​IMG]

    I then went out in Tam's car and did some logging. His core is the exact same dimensions as mine before anyone says mine's too small. Tam didn't get anything higher than 32 degrees and the temp tended to go down when on boost.

    My core:

    Universal FRONT MOUNT INTERCOOLER 560 x 180 x 63mm | eBay UK

    Tam's Core:

    AUDI S3 - FRONT MOUNTED TURBO INTERCOOLER KIT 1.8 20v T | eBay UK

    Now I dont understand this because I stopped straight after doing the above 47 degree run and popped the hood. The inlet mani was cold at the AIT sensor end and the FMIC was cold too!

    When I logged my FMIC and SMIC last week I didnt see anything above 32 degrees. How can just removing the SMIC have caused this?

    The next thing to try will be Tam's FMIC on my car.
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    Odd one that buddy. What is tams cooler,an eBay one? Could be down to quality of the cooler.
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    Yeah eBay one too. If it is the cooler I cant believe that the SMIC in addition to the FMIC was doing nearly another 20 degrees of cooling!
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    Yeh that proves the smic's do actually do something, contrary to popular belief.
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    You're not wrong. I was running better temps than this with just the SMICs!!!

    I was wondering if my AIT sensor was playing up as the inlet mani was cold to the touch after the run?
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    It's possible i guess. Is it possible to swap sensors off tams car?
    Mines always warm to the touch, so if yours is cold right after a hot run, they may be false readings.
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    Yeah I think i'd rather try swapping the sensors before swapping the cores! Sodding car, just when I thought I was getting somewhere :sob:
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    'Yeh but its a f**kin sweeeet carrr' - quote from the film grandmas boy
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    I thought it was weird last week when you said it rises on boost, mine drops like a brick on boost...
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    Kid on SCN had a faulty ait sensor, bought a new one for around a tenner and temps dropped straigt away by about 15c degrees a think. Worth a punt mate.
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    I really hope it's the AIT sensor but I've got a horrible feeling it won't be. I'll give it a go, cheers guys.
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    Ah the joys of S3 ownership lol.... feel your pain bud... we have all been there :(

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