I'd rather pay to have a proper one
Other wise i'd have saved myself a few quid and bought a Skoda
And this sort of "disrepect" comes in many forms. i.e. downloading music, films, etc from the net for free.
We all do it, or have done it... haven't we??
There's no difference in my eyes.
I agree 100%. You're right. It is EXACTLY the same.
But you're 100% wrong, insofar as that DOESN'T make it 'okay'.
If all my meighbours are car thieves, that DOESN'T make it even slightly less 'wrong' for me to steal a car.
-But it's okay, because "we've all done it"... -right?
Wrong.
Dead wrong.
If you can rationalise it with the "everyone else is doing it" argument, then you're just using tha treason to justify it to yourself.
I don't care if you think it's okay or not, it ISN'T.
If all my meighbours are car thieves, that DOESN'T make it even slightly less 'wrong' for me to steal a car.
I've re-read my post a few times now and I'm still having problems finding the part where I said it was "okay".
Oh and did you really need to pull this one out of the bag??....
Ah, I may have misunderstood the intent of yout post, and missed your point. -It wasn't clear to me, and -having re-read the post a couple more times- it still isn't entirely clear in the original post that you were NOT 'defending' it.
People using cheap copies get a hard time on here
Anyhow, I'm still not sure which point you're trying to make; -Is it that we actually agree?
Certainly, I regard 'assisting' people to use software for which they don't own a license to be less than moral, and most certainly illegal, so it's not much of a stretch to read your original post as inferring that it was 'okay'. -Even after having re-read the original post.
You really are making too much of this, I feel.
Your conscience may not be sufficiently well developed
come on boys! cool down! happy forum......
How's about a bit of reality ?
Ross-tech have been producing this software for a long time now. Software that no doubt cost a lot of money to develop.
However, once developed it is much, much easier and cheaper to produce and maintain updates. They must have recouped their initial development costs by now and the cables will no doubt be ten-a-penny from the Far East.
I seem to remember tellys were very expensive at one time but once development costs have been recovered then look at them now !
If they were to reduce the selling cost of the product to a level whereby many more people would be interested in buying i.e. a level that would attract the 'occasional user' then this would have a fourfold beneficial effect :-
1. It would stop the stealers ripping us off
2. It would eliminate the need and the market for piracy
3. It would maintain RT's ability to retain expertise and continue development of the product
4. and as previously mentioned attract a lot more 'ordinary folk' to buy their product on the basis of "it's a reasonable price - I'll give it a go"
Everyone has heard of ' the supermarket policy ' stack 'em high and sell 'em cheap ' Can anyone tell me of a supermarket that isn't successful with that policy ?
Come on RT - you can sort this very easily if you want - sell it for the right price and you'll massively increase sales.
If not then I'm afraid human nature ( or a very large percentage of it ) will prevail and people will try and obtain something only at the price they are prepared to pay.
Otherwise they will not buy.
Professional use is ,of course, excepted on the basis that it's a business expense.
It's a tough world out there and whingeing and moralising is not going to cure the problem.
Finished now - keep smiling !!!!!!
It seems odd to me that Ross charge a silly price for the £2.50 lead. they would do better to regulate the software in some form.
aythreee said:And what makes me laugh even more is that some of the people on here who come down on others about fake cables have openly admitted stealing or being tempted to steal parts from courtesy cars they've had!!
Which conveniently gets me back to my original point, which was apparently missed.
Where did you get the cable for £25 from then ? After all I think that was the point of this threadI got the cable (complete with nice little red LED), software disc, instructions and an invoice with mine.
And they're a UK seller. Didn 't even realise there was a place in the UK called Shenzhen.
So, VCDS and geography lesson for under £25. Bargain.
But on a serious note (yes I can do serious), I can fully appreciate why people chose to pay a couple of hundred for a cable and I don't class them as nutters for doing so. Just wish that some people would get off their high horses and stop banging on about how "immoral" and "out of order" and "criminal" and (seriousness ends here) "how can you look at yourself in the mirror" or "sleep at night" knowing that you've obtained a cable from cheap and "illegal" sources.
And what makes me laugh even more is that some of the people on here who come down on others about fake cables have openly admitted stealing or being tempted to steal parts from courtesy cars they've had!!
Which conveniently gets me back to my original point, which was apparently missed.
... but nobody is mocking what you have said and nobody is denying your accuracy.