Thank you for all of you guys help, but i went to a local dealer store, and got 4 new 19" mille miglias for my car, and they look great, the reason i'm trying to get another set of rims is to keep my performance tires on my original rs4's and have a set for all season, therefore i wouldn't need to go switch tires back and forth, since michigans weather is unpredictive. thank you once again for everyones help, but hey if anyones got some good deals going on with s4 rims, i don't mind a set for spares /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif