A and B roads. Very little town work.Must be a Record. Majority of the use on Town/City Driving or Highway/Motorway driving ?
A and B roads. Very little town work.Must be a Record. Majority of the use on Town/City Driving or Highway/Motorway driving ?
Interesting, so mine will be 80% M3/M4, so should last.A and B roads. Very little town work.
For those that have changed to a square set-up, have you all gone for 235/35/19? Or 245/35/19?
What have you done with the 8.5j front rims?
As an update to my case. I've just had my new tyres fitted. Looking closely at the Pirelli's, it's fairly clear that the car has somehow been driving on the sidewall. It looks as though the sidewall itself has pushed away from the tread section of the tyre.
My 255/30/19 fronts had an even 5mm across the whole width of the tyre, so around 50% worn, but the worn inner shoulder is so thin I feel I could push my finger through it if I tried hard enough. Honestly, it's that thin and quite terrifying to think that many RS3's are probably running around blissfully unaware of this problem, just as I was. Thinking about it, the sidewall obviously aren't as thick as the treaded section, so the 4mm or so of wear has also worn through the inner corner which is technically sidewall. This suggests to me that this isn't a camber issue, but a tyre design issue.
This photo shows the old Pirelli 255/30/19 on the right and the new Michelin 235/35/19 on the left.
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...and a bit closer...
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I have gone for 235/35/19 91Y XL Michelin Pilot Sport 4s. I only took it for a short drive last night, but the car just feels more planted. It might be placebo at the minute, but early signs are very good. I kept the 8.5j rims on the front. Aesthetically, the fronts have a slightly stretched look (minimal and can be seen in the above picture), whereas the rears have very square looking sidewalls.
I paid £600 for the set.
Not sure if you're all aware, but Michelin are running a promotion called 'On the road again', until the end of August, you can get £100 cashback making them £125 each fitted at the price I paid. See here...
https://marketing.michelin.co.uk/promo-summer-2020-uk/
I am in the same boat, need 4 new tyres.
Did you go for the square set-up Fronts 255/30/19 and Rears 235/30/19?
Or did you go square set-up and what size all round.
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235/35/19 all round. 8.5j on the front, 8.0j on the rear.
To give a little more detail on this, the concept of keeping the wider wheels on the front now that they weren't needed for the wider tyres felt a bit counter-intuitive to me, but overall I'm glad I did because the fitment looks right aesthetically.
The rear tyres look a little 'chunkier' due to them being a bit squarer, whilst the fronts look a little 'skimpier' due to the wider rims.
This is not an extreme difference, but just right to give a good visual balance.
If I had the ultimate choice, I think I would have preferred to have 8.5j all round, but the way I have them is a good compromise without having to spend a fortune on another pair of wheels for a small aesthetic 'gain'.
Is yours PFL? I thought it was just FL that suffered with this? Certainly my PFL did 18k miles on its original tyres!I’ve just this minute got back from the garage after having my two fronts changed to some MPS4S’ at 235/35/19. So I’m now with the square set up, I was going to change all 4 but the rears (P Zeros) are wearing evenly and still have plenty of life left on them.
The car has only done 12k from new and one of the tyres I’ve just changed had cord showing on the inner edge! The other one was on the limit of showing some cord too. Absolutely ridiculous. I would upload some pictures on here but I don’t know how to!?
Seeing this thread made me laugh.
I have NEVER been a fan of Pirreli tyres and would have told you to change this out a long time ago.
Just because it's the OEM tyre and Pirreli have been "outstanding" in their service to you, doesn't mean the tire is not s***. It just is
To keep wanting to use the tyre because of its "visual appeal" and then talk about safety is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.
A change to a different tire would have been easier than the headaches OP went through.
Obviously fell and enjoyed being led on by Pirreli. Sigh. Young lads
PS4 grip and traction a million times better than P Zero
Am I correct in thinking the TTRS has the same Pirelli tyre and size though? I’ve had no issues so agree it must be the geometry set up.First comments I’ve read that are sensible.
Widely agreed the Pirelli aren’t the best tyre for the RS3.
You can’t seriously expect that Audi are going to take ownership of this problem now, especially with reports harking back to 2018 and a new 8Y model in the offing.
The Pirelli seem to suffer the same characteristic, which to me suggests the bevelled side wall as “fantastic” as it looks isn’t the best idea with the RS3’s geometry set up.
I don’t recall reading of any Michelin / Goodyear adopters having any of these issues.
For the sake of £500-600 swap em out and then enjoy the car.
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Am I correct in thinking the TTRS has the same Pirelli tyre and size though? I’ve had no issues so agree it must be the geometry set up.
Surely TTRS will have completely different suspension geometry too?
Yes, I agree. My point being that it’s not the tyre...but Audi.Oh I would think so....
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Yes, I agree. My point being that it’s not the tyre...but Audi.
If it’s Audi then why doesn’t it
1) happen to every RS3
2) affect Michelin’s
3) affect Goodyear Supersports
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The p zeros while perhaps not the greatest tyre out there don’t seem to suffer such severe inside wear on other cars.If it’s Audi then why doesn’t it
1) happen to every RS3
2) affect Michelin’s
3) affect Goodyear Supersports
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So I’ve just had a proper rip in the RS3 tonight since going with the square set up now with 235/35/19’s all round. I have the MPS4s’ on the front but still have the Pirelli’s on the rear (until they’re due to be changed, as still have quite a bit of meat left on them). But i can confirm I’m still getting the traction control flicker now and again! What do yo guys reckon, or is it just self explanatory with the Pirelli’s still being on the rear. I swear it wasn’t this bad when I had them all round though, it’s almost as if the Michelin’s are exacerbating how bad a tyre the Pirelli’s are, I don’t know?
Cheers.
For reference, these are mine today at 11,000 miles.View attachment 207172 View attachment 207173
So I’ve just had a proper rip in the RS3 tonight since going with the square set up now with 235/35/19’s all round. I have the MPS4s’ on the front but still have the Pirelli’s on the rear (until they’re due to be changed, as still have quite a bit of meat left on them). But i can confirm I’m still getting the traction control flicker now and again! What do yo guys reckon, or is it just self explanatory with the Pirelli’s still being on the rear. I swear it wasn’t this bad when I had them all round though, it’s almost as if the Michelin’s are exacerbating how bad a tyre the Pirelli’s are, I don’t know?
Cheers.
I wouldn't even consider using 2 different tyre brands on my RS3. I would even be nervous replacing just 2 tyres like-for-like unless the tread depths were similar.
I'd say don't judge the Michelins until you have a full set. Mine feel awesome.
Yeah I stored them all immediately chap.Have you stored the new tyre pressures in the Infotainment system?
The standard system on the RS3 uses the abs sensors to measure wheel rotation speed and watches for variance over what it expects and then flags up rather than actual pressure sensors.
If you haven't it may be interpreting the difference in rolling radius as wheel slip
I’ll sort it soon enough, it’s just a killer when your rears are in good nick and have like 4-5mm left on them each and are in good condition overall.I wouldn't even consider using 2 different tyre brands on my RS3. I would even be nervous replacing just 2 tyres like-for-like unless the tread depths were similar.
I'd say don't judge the Michelins until you have a full set. Mine feel awesome.