DTUK £300 worth it?

RO65ERS said:
what is the crack with these boxes anyway?
run 1+1 then 1+2 then 1+3 and see which you prefer?
or is it more a of a low Low, Mid and High ?
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The first number is the map. There are 3 and then you have plus or minus 3 on all the maps. The dsg doesn't seem to like the aggressive settings but it's early days. The power is definitely there. Torque pro logged 3.9 0 - 60 but on that map and setting it wasn't smooth enough for me
 
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RO65ERS said:
what is the crack with these boxes anyway?
run 1+1 then 1+2 then 1+3 and see which you prefer?
or is it more a of a low Low, Mid and High ?
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There is further info here re fitting etc for those that are interested. Each Map is slightly different and users have the ability to tweak the boost of each map with the + settings. As others have pointed to, DSG based cars generally dont seem to like the higher + settings although each car is different and Fast Teacher I belive runs his on map 1 + 3 setting.

http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/thread...ting-installation-guide-–-s3-8v-model.253804/
 
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OliS3 said:
The first number is the map. There are 3 and then you have plus or minus 3 on all the maps. The dsg doesn't seem to like the aggressive settings but it's early days. The power is definitely there. Torque pro logged 3.9 0 - 60 but on that map and setting it wasn't smooth enough for me
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jungle650 said:
There is further info here re fitting etc for those that are interested. Each Map is slightly different and users have the ability to tweak the boost of each map with the + settings. As others have pointed to, DSG based cars generally dont seem to like the higher + settings although each car is different and Fast Teacher I belive runs his on map 1 + 3 setting.

http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/how-to-guide-dtuk-fsr-tuning-box-fitting-installation-guide-–-s3-8v-model.253804/
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Thanks guys.
installation isn't an issue if i went down this route as i have a workshop! i would want aggressive lol, so id jump straight in with 1+3
then?

lol.
 
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I really don't like map 1, doesn't work with the dsg and it seems over aggressive, Again not helped my the dsg. I haven't tried map 2 so fingers crossed it's a version of 1 that suits me. Map 3 is excellent, running +3 on the way home and the delivery is stock with loads of extra power. It doesn't feel mega fast but it is
 
Guys, just for pedal box fitted, tuning box will be fitted at later date due to a repair needing doing.

What settings have you found best for DSG?

Do you tend to keep it in city mode while around town and then what setting after? Plus or minus?
 
Im selling my dtuk fsr+ box for 300 posted
It's 6months old, latest v3 software
 

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Map 1+3 is the best setting for maximum hp figures on the dyno, I've done loads of dyno runs and that was always without doubt the best programme to put it on
 
RedS3Reilly said:
Map 1+3 is the best setting for maximum hp figures on the dyno, I've done loads of dyno runs and that was always without doubt the best programme to put it on
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Forgive my stupidness as I'm not clued up on these.

I understand the plus 3 part.

What is the map 1? Is that the sport light before sport plus?

Cheers
 
j0nny2013 said:
Forgive my stupidness as I'm not clued up on these.

I understand the plus 3 part.

What is the map 1? Is that the sport light before sport plus?

Cheers
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These guys are talking about the FSR+ tuning box. The pedal box which your question relates to is a seperate item.

Guys anyone out their still using a pedal box and if so can you help this chap??

Thx
 
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jungle650 said:
These guys are talking about the FSR+ tuning box. The pedal box which your question relates to is a seperate item.

Guys anyone out their still using a pedal box and if so can you help this chap??

Thx
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Only on TDi manual. See my thread on subject.
 
RedS3Reilly said:
Map 1+3 is the best setting for maximum hp figures on the dyno, I've done loads of dyno runs and that was always without doubt the best programme to put it on
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Have you got any print outs showing the AFR whilst on the dyno?

What did map 3 dyno at?
 
OliS3 said:
Have you got any print outs showing the AFR whilst on the dyno?

What did map 3 dyno at?
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on plus 2 germany have seen 295hp stock, 353hp tuned..., also a couple of members have also seen similar before and after figures too
 
ABYSS said:
on plus 2 germany have seen 295hp stock, 353hp tuned..., also a couple of members have also seen similar before and after figures too
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Just interested in the curve mainly, not fussed about top end BHP figures.

I wish I could run map 1 or 2 but on my car at least I get big lean spikes as the boost comes in, when it leans out you can feel the power drop off and then come back as the fuel trim corrects it to 14.7:1
 
the only difference between map 3 and 1 is the reaction time of the box, and I've posted the dyno sheets on here somewhere before Oli, probably over a year ago i think.
 
ABYSS said:
the only difference between map 3 and 1 is the reaction time of the box, and I've posted the dyno sheets on here somewhere before Oli, probably over a year ago i think.
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Map 3 runs very well on any setting on my car, map 1 and 2 run lean on any setting. I can only go off my car, logging and data but that is what happens
 
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OliS3 said:
Just interested in the curve mainly, not fussed about top end BHP figures.

I wish I could run map 1 or 2 but on my car at least I get big lean spikes as the boost comes in, when it leans out you can feel the power drop off and then come back as the fuel trim corrects it to 14.7:1
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Going lean will not drop power unless there is a corresponding retardation of ignition timing.
Going lean will generate more power if the ignition advance can cope before the onset of detonation.
Audi ECU do not behave like some other marque ECU as they are a lot more dynamic and reactive to driver input and environmental condition.
 
Scott.T said:
Going lean will not drop power unless there is a corresponding retardation of ignition timing.
Going lean will generate more power if the ignition advance can cope before the onset of detonation.
Audi ECU do not behave like some other marque ECU as they are a lot more dynamic and reactive to driver input and environmental condition.
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You clearly know more than me about it, regardless of the power drop issue would you run a map that caused the car to run 16:1 at WOT?
 
OliS3 said:
You clearly know more than me about it, regardless of the power drop issue would you run a map that caused the car to run 16:1 at WOT?
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I'm no expert on the Audi ECU range but I do know I had similar concerns with a previous 2.0TFSi of mine that I logged. I too saw high AFR and speaking to one of the tuners on here confirmed that they can run high AFR as a means to improve performance and economy but it will reign the AFR back in once the EGT gets too high.
I can't answer if 16.1 is too lean. I suppose it depends on duration. If it were mine I would hook up my Det cans to see if I could hear any detonation.
Coming from tuning Subaru where I have set my AFR to 14.7 idle/cruise, 13.5 at 0.5bar, 12 at 1bar and 11.3 upto 1.5bar setting it to 16 would see things melt or rattle to an early death, but we are comparing technology like chalk and cheese.
 
If the ecu corrected it to 14.7:1 I'd be happy but even running it for days in hope the fuel trims would take over it never improved. It's a shame as I know map 3 is fast but the mid range torque in the other 2 maps is very nice to have.

I've read quite a bit on how audi can use such lean AFR for a turbo car yet every remap I've seen runs on the richer side but clearly with much more advanced timing. I'd be interested to see how the mtm handles AFR
 
Has anyone tried the TMC Motorsport tuning box?
 
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Thanks for posting the graphs, that is a lot worse than mine. Your graphs show the car doesn't run stoichiometric or rich until after 5k

Switching the maps and then doing a power run won't help though as the car hasn't had chance to adjust the fuel trims properly.

On map 3 mine is stoichiometric until 5th gear where the ECU starts to richen off the mix, was similar on my 8P
 
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Forgive my stupid question and if there is a 'stupid questions' thread i can spend lunch time reading on i'll go there!

What kind of other modifications do you need to achieve these figures? Can the DTUK box be used on a bog standard S3?
 
Beery said:
Forgive my stupid question and if there is a 'stupid questions' thread i can spend lunch time reading on i'll go there!

What kind of other modifications do you need to achieve these figures? Can the DTUK box be used on a bog standard S3?
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The box is designed to be used on the standard car
 
Beery said:
Forgive my stupid question and if there is a 'stupid questions' thread i can spend lunch time reading on i'll go there!

What kind of other modifications do you need to achieve these figures? Can the DTUK box be used on a bog standard S3?
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No other mods are required, it's one of the easiest ways to tune an s3.
If you buy an intake and a pedalbox as well you will be very impressed with the car, ask Andrew @dtuk he will be able to supply everything
 
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