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Which Satnav?

unkle Apr 28, 2008

  1. unkle

    unkle Beer God

    Im after something with maps of UK and Europe, needs to have speed camera locations and preferably be a Tom Tom with a biggish screen. Any suggestions would be greatly apprciated!
  2. Randomjim

    Randomjim Active Member

    Go for a Garmin. I used to sell both and the Garmin's were 10 times better. Easier to use clearer maps etc etc.
  3. Amchlolor

    Amchlolor Active Member

    I recently jacked in a Tomtom XL.
    Bought a Snooper Syrius S600+ instead.
    It's speed camera database is updated daily.
    It also uses navteq satnav software, along with Garmin.
    It's better than the software used by the others.
    Photo below.
    It's bluetooth is miles better than the Tomtom, hooking up to my mobile in seconds.
    Something the Tomtom never managed.

  4. unkle

    unkle Beer God

    How much was the Snooper? Does it come with maps of Europe and is there a annual fee for the updates? Am I right in thinking the bluetooth feature is there so the Snooper can update and get info on Cameras, Traffic Jams etc etc?
  5. Amchlolor

    Amchlolor Active Member

    The Snooper Syrius S600+ is around £219.00 for UK/Ireland maps.
    Around £249.00 for Western European map version.
    You have a choice for updating speed camera locations.
    Either £4.95 per month by direct debit, or one off £99 for lifetime (I think).
    I just went for the £4.95 a month option, I'm not going to miss that.
    The updates are done via USB on your PC, with the database being updated daily.
    I don't update daily though, I just tend to do it before going on a long journey.
    The bluetooth function, AFAIK, is just there for phone functions.
    I don't think it has any other role.:think:

    Snooper do make cheaper satnavs though.
    I think the Indago is cheaper, but still uses the same software etc.
  6. quattrojames

    quattrojames Moderator Staff Member Moderator Audi A6 Audi Avant Owner Group

    @ Bowfer - does that Snooper in your pic come with the hidden bracket type mounting kit as shown? It looks like a permanent install into your car without damaging any trim is that right?

    Looks pretty good fitted as it is. Did you do it or a specialist?
  7. marriedblonde

    marriedblonde Active Member

    I'm a Tomtom fan myself, started off with the basic ONE and then upgraded to the new 720 when it first came out.

    The 720 is a lot, lot better than the ONE obviously but it is also miles ahead of the 510, 710 series that it replaces. The route calculation is fast, the recalculation is also really quick. I use a third part camera database as the tomtom one isn't directional even though you know if the cameras facing your way as they do show on the map on the correct side of the road.

    I do use the bluetooth option but only for the traffic updates, I have a car kit for my actual calls (I carry 2 mobiles - work one stays in the boot which is the one I use for data with the tomtom)

    Can't comment on the snooper as I haven't used it.

  8. Amchlolor

    Amchlolor Active Member

    Here'a photo without the satnav on.
    The bit that attaches to the dash (no damage ) is a BRODIT CLIP.
    Look at www.dsldevelopments.com for one for your car.
    The clip stays in the car, permanently.
    Now, normally, you then buy a BRODIT MOUNT for each specific piece of equipment you want to use.
    So you might have one for your satnav, one for your phone etc.
    They then just clip on and off.
    Unfortunately, Brodit don't (yet) do mounts for Snooper products.
    So I had to buy another type of mount and screw it onto the clip.
    The satnav just slides on and off.
    It's not ideal, but it works fine.
    If you were to choose a satnav that Brodit do do a mount for, it would look a lot neater.
    Just imagine the pic without the screwed on bit!
    Since this picture was taken, I've painted the brass screws black.
    It look better.

  9. simch

    simch Active Member

    I had a tom tom go and upgraded it to the top of the range square screen on three years ago (900?). I travel all over europe in the car and do it without thinking with the trusty tom tom. I can hand on heart say it has not once let me down, it is easy to use, the camera download for free off pocketgps is on there and it has saved my bacon a few times.
    The only way I will change it is wehn it breaks and I will just go tom rom again without hesitation. If it aint broke don't fix it.
    I recently had a cayenne an xtrail and a toureag on test, each with sat nav and none of them held a candle to the tom tom. The cayenne system was so annoying, I turned it off!
    Pretty much the first stand alone sat nav with "birdview" and everything else seems to be a copy of it. Seriously could not cope without it now. Go for it.
  10. gradwells

    gradwells Member

    Snooper range is vastly better than tom tom . faster , slimmer £99 for lifetime camer updates all over Europe with the well regarded enigma database , bright clear lcd even runs for 5 hours on the inside of my motorbike screen on its factory sucker !
    If I had known I would not have wasted £1800 on Audi built in which I now only use for mp3 playback .
  11. Amchlolor

    Amchlolor Active Member

    My Snooper was nicked, so I replaced with a Nuvi 760.
    I would have just gone for another Snooper, but I wanted Czech republic mapping.
    Snooper don't do Eastern Europe yet, Garmin do.
  12. worthingmale

    worthingmale Member

    have used tomtom, garmin and navman

    and tomtom gets my vote all the time

    guess its personal preference really but if your going for europe mapping there is 2 kinds, major road mapping or street level mapping,

    obviously street level has the best coverage
  13. Rilla

    Rilla New Member

    i got a really nice top of the range tom tom for sale, used bout 4 time, pm me if you want more details.
  14. benr

    benr Member

    If you search around you can get Tomtom 920 traffic for £175 (look on hotdealsuk)
    Tomtom have a latest map guarantee, so you can plug in and it will update it to a 730 for ALOT cheaper. included lane guidance, iqroutes and all the extras youd expect from a top of the range unit
  15. biggiep

    biggiep Member

    I actually sell sat navs at work or more importantly I'm the guy who deals with returns. Tom Tom are by far and away the least reliable unit we must get at least two every saturday faulty and more that just need re-setting.

    Navman aren't too bad for reliability but they are in my mind not great to use.

    Its garmin all the way from me, they are the only manufactureer with and GPS pedigree, they supply the worlds shipping industry, the RAF even the Red Arrows use garmin!

    After about my 8th tom tom over several generations finally I have found peace with garmin (610T), the traffic updates are much better than my 920 with traffic moduel if I run them side by side the garmin advises about short ques or re routes around long ones, the tomtom is so slow to react its untrue. The one thing I will say is that the tomtoms do have the pc software nailed and for ease of use you can't beat them. But its garmin all the way from me because I want to get there AND back not risk it being faulty and be lost!
  16. Amchlolor

    Amchlolor Active Member

    Another vote for Garmin in our office, as of today.
    One of our guys had to go to Great Yarmouth last thing on Friday.
    No time to go home and get his own Tomtom, so I loaned him my Garmin.
    He came in this morning and declared it miles better than his Tomtom.

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