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Discussion in 'General Automotive Chat' started by ScottD3, Nov 9, 2011.

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    ScottD3 I want your faulty electronics

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    [Nov 17, 2011]
    The rear boot light is right below aerial but I can't see any screw or any thing just a PCB.
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    [Nov 17, 2011]
    Apparently you have to remove the rear passenger roof light and the aerial base securing nut is underneath.

    Im guessing you unscrew and it will release. Not tried myself though
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    Did you get this done then scott o just give up? Haven't you got a Haynes manual for the herse?
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    [Nov 17, 2011]
    Step 1. Open Boot. Step 2.Remove coffin from boot before starting for extra room.
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    Haha. Surely a herse wouldn't have a radio so wouldn't need an ariel! It's a bit indecent to be rocking out while transporting the dead.
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    [Nov 17, 2011]
    Not done it yet mate.
    I called out to help a friend with his car.
    He hit a matress on the way home yesterday, he wanted an assessment on the damage.

    Shut it yut!!

    A perfectly honest, wanting to be help, useful thread and has been screwed by Tweedledee and Tweedledum?
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    Tweedledee started it!

    I'm waiting on you before I possible purchase one of these shark fins.

    Can you do a before and after radio reception assessment please. I always listen to the radio and the reception is a bit gash round here so it would be nice to know.
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    I've not listened to the radio since christ moyles took over the breakfast show. lol

    But I'll give it ago mate.
    Any station?
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    Just try a few stations and then let me know if the reception is better/worse/same. Cheers
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    Will do buddy.
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    [Nov 17, 2011]
    Just caught up on this. I reckon your mate will have bust a spring or two...

    Yut, Jst coz I aint no old man...

    Tweedledee and tweedledum ftw!
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    ScottD3 I want your faulty electronics

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    [Nov 18, 2011]
    I bought the above shark fin aerial jobby and this is it fitted to my car.

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    This is the base of the old aerial. No idea what all that is for. Any one know?
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    This was not a plug and play job.
    2 things, first I was unable to get the nut on to the new aerial cause there was 4 prong sticking out making it harder to get it on, so I bent theses back and I never liked the idea of the prongs making holes the roof.
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    second was the plugs. they the same, so only way to join them was to cut the ends off and solder. I never did this as I was unsure if I liked the aerial, this means i'm also unable to do a signal test.
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    Then its a simple screw, clamp it down and make sure the aerial is facing the correct way.

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    Here is some pics of it all back together.

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    It does look much better mate. shame it's not plug and play.
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    [Nov 18, 2011]
    Might be different for you A/S3 lot.
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    If it isn't do you think it would be easy enough to just cut the old plugs off the old arial and solder them onto the shark fin?
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    its only 2 cables mate.
    connect the middle core to the middle core and the outer to the outer.
    Solder, tape, heat shrink, twist or what ever you want and job done.
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    [Nov 29, 2011]
    after some heavy rain and wind I checked the fin out and no leaks.
    100% dry.
    still not wired it up yet though
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    [Nov 29, 2011]
    All the sharkfins that I know of dont get used for radio antenna's & this is going back a while now, at least until 03 on the 8P alone, as the antennas for radio have all been in the windows & bootlid, same as my S4 B6 was which was also 2003.

    The pcb base you can see of original antenna is all part of that era antenna system, my S3 8L had the exact same pcb & when disconnected it gave me such a **** reception, so returned to as was when I was testing some crappy sharkfin way back lol, learnt the hard way.

    The sharkfin you've fitted looks older tbh against the ones of today, trying to think which car its from as I do recall the style.
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    I've not wired the new sharkfin up and I'm still getting a good reception for Radio 2, can't get any other station though. Lol
    I'll wire it up this weekend and see if it changes.
    going by the ebay advert its from a polo or a mk4 golf I think.
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    Yeah its does actually look like a VW fin tbh, thats why it looks familiar :)
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    [Nov 30, 2011]
    The PCB is basically an amplifier (and to some extent, filter).

    There's 12V phantom-power on the RF line from the OEM head-unit, which goes to feed that PCB. As you'll probably know, when you fit an aftermarket headunit you have to buy an adapter to take power from the ISO block (intended for motorised aerials or amplifier relay) to power the aerial-amplifier, otherwise you get woeful reception. It basically all works in a very similar way to phantom-powered microphones, and somewhat stretching the comparison, powerline/homeplug ethernet.

    I guess if the shark-fin was designed as a passive antenna, it should get decent reception without the amp; if on the other hand it was designed as the passive part of an active system, it might not be so hot. The quality of the tuner in your head unit will make a difference too, although not massive.

    At the moment I'm expecting my next car to be a B6 with the AM/FM antenna being in the back window; I'll likely be adding a shark-fin to it though, as I've a Blaupunkt Woodstock DAB-54 head unit, and short of adding a glass-mounted [read: ugly and poor performing] DAB aerial, I think it'll be my only option.

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    [Nov 30, 2011]
    when I replaced my head unit I don't think I wired that up.
    Not that i'm bothered, I hardly ever use the radio.

    A B6?
    What you doing to do with your B5?
    Can I have some bits off it please? :D
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    [Nov 30, 2011]
    Don't wish to hi-jack the thread, but yeah, I'm planning a return to oil-burning - most likely in a B6 1.9 TDI Quattro or if I'm feeling particularly flush (/find myself powerless to resist), a B7 TDI Quattro of one sort or the other.

    As for bits off the B5, almost certainly. Trading it in isn't even on the radar, so I'm planning to either sell (very) cheaply as a lump of parts, or strip whatever people want and weigh the rest in. I can't guarantee whatever you might want a) is in good nick b) works at all c) hasn't fallen off, though.

    Rob.
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    [Nov 30, 2011]
    This thread is kind of dead. so less jack this fool!!

    I'm after a load cover.
    There is a couple of the B5 lads thats after some facelift parts and knowing aragorn he's possible want something for his £999 racer car.
    what colour is the interior?

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    Of course it might be that someone wants to take the whole lot off me, and do the jobs it'd need to keep it on the road - not all that much in reality, particularly for a proper spanner-enthusiast, but it's more than I want to get involved with, and I need better economy as I'm back to doing between 1500 and 2000 miles per month again soon, but if not the most likely will strip & weigh-in. If it goes that way I'll put your name down for the load-cover. It'll be £12000 + delivery ;)

    As for the interior, it's the 'usual'(?) TQS half-leather set-up. Black leather bits and black cloth with blue diagonal stripes. I'll be honest though, it was pretty tired when I bought the car, and hasn't exactly got any better. Again, if I do end-up stripping it, I'll do some photies for you.

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    £20 and a pack of chocolate hobnobs?

    They best be good pictures, I don't want none of this out of focus, high saturation and low contrast images. :)

    Work out what is best and let me know.
    Wish I had the space cause i'd have it off you and break it. :)


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