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S3 vs Scooby STI(and anything Japanese whilst we're at it:) )

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    haha na not really, chap was giving me grief with an X reg earlier, sat right up my ass so i overtook car in front to his suprise and must have caught him off boost, anyway, i pulled off onto my road before he could catch up just to annoy him and not give him the chance :)

    put it this way if i had stopped to pull onto my road he would have gone into the back of me even after indicating for a few hundred yards, why do scoob drivers drive so aggressively, theres just no need

    i know the S3 isnt that much slower as ive had a few tussles with these cars, but being in front is not an advantage :)
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    Because they are owned by people who take and sell a lot of drugs lol!!!
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    copy and paste is your friend haha
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    Yes its a life saver to be honest and about the subaru sti dont S3's have more torque so are a little bit quicker???
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    An STI will dance all over an S3. However most people who own cars arent actually very good drivers so that comes into it a lot
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    who cares whos quicker, impreza's drivers are ****. You see them get out of cars with there subaru jackets and peaked hats like their sponcored.

    Rather push my audi than been seen in a scooby:icon_thumright:
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    Yeah and the umbrellas if its raining I think they are all tryin to be Colin McRae!!!
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    I'd have one if I wanted cheap speed.

    However I wouldnt look like I've just robbed a WRC merchandise lorry,...or have all the sponsor stickers on it.

    If I had a scoob I'd stick a front mount on it so I could run a standard vent free bonnet and also remove the rear wing...plus any hint of 'STi' badges too.
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    erm dont be so sure,ive had a play with an 05 plate before on a straight run which you'd have to be an idiot to mess up...this car have been mapped with all the stuff he had plastered too it, rally flaps etc etc....he pulled just over a car length on me...thats not what i call being'danced' on
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    I think there must be allot of slow subaru's around the bracknell area, i'm forever getting them with there massive loud exhausts pulling up next to me at the traffic lights reving and such but i always wipe the smiles off of their faces when the lights go green.

    I'm not one to race about but in all honesty it puts a big smile on my face.

    There is one particular WRX or so i thought because of the 500kg or so of stickers on it that was slow as ass, turned out to be N/A! Why would you do that to a fast subaru let alone a bottom spec turboless bag of excrement?... (rant over lol)
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    I'm pretty sure it would. All the ones I've been in are savage quick, standard maps too. You sure it was an STi and not just a 1.8 N/A with all the kit on it Tim? ;)

    S3's are nice cars and they're pretty quick but as has been said before (maybe to the annoyance of some) there are plently of cars out there that will see them off without too much bother....most things jap with a turbo spring to mind (apart from Charade Turbos!)
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    haha....to be fair i would never have raced one but my neighbour said id be suprised at how close i could get....that evening an opportunity presented itself and he was bang on!!
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    oh i cant.....


    My scoob would pish all over a S3 end of!! Even when it was standerd 280 bhp. thats all im gonna say as im on the wrong forum to have this debate. lol

    A car is only as good as the driver if there in a scoob or a Audi.


    and not all scoob owners have spastic jackets and stupid hats either. :noway:
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    Most do, imo they are chav cars, no class unlike the S3, and common as muck!
    The S3 wouldnt be far off an what you are looking at is a hot hatch. scoobys are more of an s/rs4 kinda comparison in terms of being a saloon (old ones at least)
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    I dont like scoobs.. Poor mans evo. lol.. Nah just personally dont like it. They are very quick though. I just think some scooby drivers are novices to the power and get carried away with it.. I think if a good driver was behind one then i dont think the s3 would win although it wouldnt be miles behind, probably a few cars lengths. I think the (B5) S4 would give it a run for its money but the rs4 would scare the scoop and spoilers off it. And im also not a fan of the STI badges.. One funny time my missus seen one and said, "why does it say STi? just makes people think it has some infection?" lol.
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    Lovin' all the comments, has any of you STI slaters driven one? I took an STI(one with PPP I must admit) and an EVO FQ300 for test drive back to back on the same day, and if anyone thinks their remapped S3 can keep up, then they are dreaming! And this is coming from an S3 owner!! Class apart, of course the S3 wins, it a nice place to be inside an S3, but you don't but Scoobys and Evo's for the comfort and interior, they are for thrashing about and getting from A-B in double quick time, and you will most likely have a smile at the end of your journey. :racer:

    No comparison in my opinion.
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    The S3 (8L) is the new Subaru Impreza. You only have to take one look at this place to see that...

    And the simple fact of the matter is a proper STI will buttf**k an S3 into the horizon, on a dual carriageway, a motorway, a bendy A-road or a roundabout. There's simply no comparison.

    And Tim, I'm beginning to think you've got some kind of Garrett turbo with uprated internals with the amount of cars you can keep up with in your S3.
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    i had a tussle with a brand new FQ300 down some twisty county lanes, he couldnt leave me beside gain a little on the straight. I have a bilsteins B8 dampers, forge tie bars and i was well impressed with myself lol

    Most in in your driving skill
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    the facts are the facts kidda....i dont know what the other kid was doing, all i know is i was behind him pulling from 20mph off my famous roundabout and i was just over a car length away, now if you have some facts other than theory that go against that, be my guest.....the actual facts are that is the most direct comparison i have heard on here, yet you slate...... not being funny but your opinion is toss unless you can be more constructive than you are being - sarcasm doesn't suit some people, you seem to be one of those

    and as for the S3 becoming the new scoob....man you have issues, granted the chav element is apparent and becoming increasingly so....but to draw comparison with a scooby? your simply diluded.....it doesnt have anywhere near that notorioty yet...and in my guess never will as there simply arent the numbers.

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    scooby = chav. no question abuot it

    as for the audi's, there are some seriously misguided "dubbers" out there. VAG stuff shouldnt have stupid aftermarket lights, shuoldnt have anything OTT, even non VAG wheels are pretty dubious in a lot of cases

    there are a fair few chavved cars of all varieties out there but practically every scoob you see is a chav eye sore. look at the spoilers they leave the factory with, i mean wtf is that all about?!

    scoob + VXR = pre-chavved for your convenience
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    well said that man, i didnt want to say all that through fear i would get slated by all! I loved my scooby, and after it was mapped/modded etc it was f**kin insanly fast! (i wont go into what i had done as that got me banned from asn from people not beliving the figures!) yes there is a stereo type against them, but let people think your a chav who cant drive. Peoples arrogence is bliss to someone like me who has learnt to let the snotty "know it all" - "it says it cant in the manual" sorta person, sit there and Mug you and the car off. there just deep down wishing they had a car than can smash most cars on the road, sounds the nuts and makes you smile EVERY TIME you drive it!

    dont get me wrong i love Audis, past and present, but the scooby was in a totally different league to a S3/s4 i have ever driven. Imprezas like a drug, they drag you in, they cost you loads of money, they make you want to go out so you can drive your car. The subaru "scene" is also very different to the dub/Audi scene. Suprising to most of you im sure, but 99.9% of drivers are normal people with kids, mortgage`s, etc. I done 3 charity runs in my scoob in the 13 months i owned it. 16k to essex air ambulence, 8k to a kids home @ xmas, and a Tunnel run that was 8k cancer reserch. All this was organised, by those chavvy, cant drive loon scooby drivers. Think some peoples attitudes on here are very chauvanistic, Anal, and typical top gear stereo type...Audi cockish!

    Thats my 2 pence! :)

    and yes i know i cant spell!

    EDIT as i seen a new reply.

    These sorta people are exactly the ones im on about! oh look, its mr perfect!
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    thats just the way it is with VAG. less is more

    scoobies. MESS is law.

    its just a different scene i suppose and yes ive driven scoobies, dull as ditch water to drive, i shuoldnt have bought the s4 tbh as thats much of the same, but some people have no talent and need all the safety to keep them alive.

    scoobies are definately a no-brainer to drive. just point and shoot, no actual driving involved.. like the s4 tbh
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    Did u have your name written in both the passenger rear windows lol
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    mayyyyyyybeee!!! lol

    [​IMG]

    mainly added for the 2009 tunnel run! :)
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    so you use snobbyness as an excuse for actual stereotypical FACT? good methodology matey.... i think your very short sighted in your views......as we were talking about a remapped only scooby im sure we didnt need to know the facts about your insanely fast scoob...but thanks for letting us know - maybe you can dig it out and have a race with the S3 with RS4 running gear as a closer comparison (but then lets not get childish)....

    do i have to reitterate myself constantly..... the scoob i had a go against was in a straight lineand he did not in any way shape or form....kill me.....i ackoweldge that scoobs are fast cars, but after that run my mind is now swaying towards the fact that they are crude giving the feeling that they are quicker than they are..... im in no doubt they tune up better than ours, but to say they would kill us standard? diluded....i have experience of this

    im sure my car will feel loads quicker than it is now were i to strip it, fit a tacky dash and solid springs

    your argument is severely floored
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    animal i wernt havin a pop at ya mate. im talking in general. i been on this forum a long time and there are so many people on here who are by the book its un real! (as you would of also witnessed)

    im givin accros my opionin and what i have witnessed from forum to forum over the last 3 years!

    im saying no more as its going to turn into "my cocks bigger than yours" and the thread will get locked.

    you need to chill fella!
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    no offence taken Alpine..... and my comments shouldnt be taken aggressively (apologies if they come across too abrupt) - my reply was in the same vein as the reply i was posting against...... and the fact that nobody else seems to have had a pop at one of these cars, yet they know that we'd get totalled which is exactly what i thought before i was urged to have a go :)
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    Being an Audi forum, I am not surprised people are blowing the S3 trumpet, and slating Scoobies. Kinda boring...

    For the record, I've seen plenty of S3's being driven idiotically on the road too... Driving an Audi doesn't make you a classier, more decent or whatever person. You can pick up an old S3 for peanuts nowadays, meaning anyone can own one. Yes, including Mr Chav.
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    i have no problems with anyone saying anythin about scoobs. its the stereo typical there all chavy scum waisters attitude of most i was defending.:slap: I got a 1.8T and i still have a play with my mates in there EVOS and scoobs etc. Thats why we have quick motors, to go places quickly! lol theres nowt wrong with what you said animal:) :icon_thumright:
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    have you read any of the above or did you just see the rant and thought you'd add to it - honestly cant see why ya making this addition when i dont think it's relevant

    Alpine, no love lost mate, we have differing opinions, my point was that we aren't all snobs either..... i bought this car for build quality mainly followed by pace a close second.... :)

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    but youve gotta admit people seem to be more insecure than most around here!
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    wow what a thread

    tbh the STi would beat most hatches. Stock there is a good 70bhp difference with the s3.

    In the real world on roads where you cant open up etc it might seem like theres not much difference but id say on a track the scooby would win hands down. However i once beat a Lamborghini in my old 1.4 306 off the lights. The lambo stalled which was hilarious. :D
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    There are thousands of these around Manchester, because, as someone said, they are cheap for the speed. But all have the ganster/drug dealer black windows and still stickers plastered on them.

    One guy at a meet I go to has one. 19, coming from a **** heap polo/clio and can't drive for toffee. Crashed it second day while trying to take a roundabout.
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    ok but on a straight piece of road, 1/2 mile long...good indicator of speed? i'd say thats plenty of oppotunity to open it up
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    how did he manage that???


    maybe he was insecure?? who knows?
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    Funny thread this.

    Some constructive comments, some not! Having owned both I'd say the Impreza is definately faster and with my 100k S3 handling the way it does due to worn suspension (due to be all renewed) the Impreza would be my choice if forced to choose one in a short period of spirited driving on private roads.

    The S3 is not a fast car, I mean sometimes I have trouble with the powerful diesels they are starting to make, lol, what a joke!. BMW 335D no chance, might as well pull over!

    Fact is the S3 has a lack of power, given the addition of 4WD (sometimes lol) it makes for a pretty poor excuse at an S model. Don't get me wrong I love my car (hate the squeaks) but it will never be an Impreza or as fast as one in standard form.

    The car (Impreza) is for want of a better word "Raw", where as the S3 is refined. Less Weight + more power equate to the Impreza winning hands down. I loved my Impreza, didn't love the fact it blew 3 engines, 2 gearboxes and had a replacement ECU. The way it drove and the balance of the car through the corners, exiting roundabouts etc was phenomenal. Getting the car sideways and controlling it was easy as abc. Try doing that in an S3.

    I know the debate is "straightline" speed but even then the S3 would always be the car behind. Impreza engines are not refined and need rebuilding often to get the best from them.

    Above are my views....not necessarily right or wrong, just my views based on experience.

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    comes down to driving skill and general condition of the motor. If both are in prime condition with the stig driving both then the scooby would win
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    ok, I can comment on this.

    Just traded in my re-mapped 2000 S3, my fiance has an impreza STI. We have had the side by side and there is a big difference. She was driving the STI and she still hammered me. :bye:

    My missus is a good driver tho and is pretty quick on the twisties too so I take no shame!
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    it wont help that the audi has such a pony gay little turbo
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    Hit the nail on the head.

    Anyone who says the S3 is quick and handles well simply hasn't had experiance of cars that do do both.

    S3 is too FWD orientated which to an inexperianced driver gives more confidence and allows you to get to the limits of its handling, however an inexperianced driver in a fulltime 4wd def won't be able to push it to its limits. There is no way in this world a std S3 would come close to an STi and even a modded S3 would get its arse handed to it on a plate
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