1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

retrofit cruise control coding and activation issue

Discussion in 'Audi S4/A4/A4 Cab (B7 Chassis)' started by deian3387, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. deian3387
    Offline

    deian3387 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hi, im having trouble activating the cruise control on my a4. Does anyone have instructions for the coding and activation? I'm using VAS 5054 with my lappy..

    thanks
    #1
  2. jb0o
    Online

    jb0o North East Forum Moderator Site Sponsor

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2009
    Messages:
    2,615
    Likes Received:
    104
    No idea with VAS.


    VCDS / Vagcom is fairly simple:

    01 - Engine
    Coding
    '11463'

    &

    16 - Steering Wheel
    Coding
    Edit 2nd to last digit to support CC
    #2
    deian3387 likes this.
  3. deian3387
    Offline

    deian3387 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    0
    thanks for the quick reply! when you say edit 2nd to last digit to support cruise, what do you mean?
    #3
  4. jb0o
    Online

    jb0o North East Forum Moderator Site Sponsor

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2009
    Messages:
    2,615
    Likes Received:
    104
    When you login to the coding of 16-Steering Wheel you'll see a series of 5 digits, each representing whats installed into the car etc.

    The 2nd to last digit is dependant upon:

    0xx?x: Board Computer & Cruise Control
    • 0 = Board Computer & Cruise Control not installed
    • 1 = Board Computer installed
    • 2 = Cruise Control installed
    • 4 = Board Computer & Cruise Control installed

    So if you had a Trip Computer and Cruise Control the digit would need to be changed to '4', or if you didn't have a Trip Computer the digit would be changed to '2'.
    #4
  5. NHN
    Online

    NHN Modmetractor

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2008
    Messages:
    27,230
    Likes Received:
    1,220
    VAS doesnt allow security access on anything afaik, given my dealer is buying vcds of me now lmfao, it will be a guided function to enable this mate, vcds is simpler & allows more access to some systems than vas, but it should be a GFF option anyway to enable cruise.
    #5
    deian3387 likes this.
  6. deian3387
    Offline

    deian3387 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    0
    Iv'e gone through guided to code and enable cc but still no joy.. One thing that i wasn't sure of was when i installed the cc kit there was a wire in the box that i haven't installed because i was under the impression that this cable was only for the a6. Am i correct in saying this? BTW how mutch is the vcds?
    #6
  7. NHN
    Online

    NHN Modmetractor

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2008
    Messages:
    27,230
    Likes Received:
    1,220
    Check my sig for the GB I'm running for vcds atm :)
    #7
  8. deian3387
    Offline

    deian3387 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    0
    Do you know if the wire should be connected?
    #8
  9. NHN
    Online

    NHN Modmetractor

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2008
    Messages:
    27,230
    Likes Received:
    1,220
    As I'm not there to see for myself, I couldnt possibly say, you'd have to check your car wiring to see if it has the wire already in place.
    #9
  10. jb0o
    Online

    jb0o North East Forum Moderator Site Sponsor

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2009
    Messages:
    2,615
    Likes Received:
    104
    Haha, wondered how long it'd be before Audi dealers would be interested in the VCDS software.. seems so much more capable than VAS.


    You don't need the wire providing you have a Midline/Highline ECU and/or a Multi Function Steering Wheel.

    If the above checks out and still a no-go, most possibly the Clutch switch... check the Measuring Blocks of the clutch switch in Engine-01 to see when you press the clutch the values change.. if they don't then you need to replace the clutch switch.
    #10
  11. deian3387
    Offline

    deian3387 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yes thought so.. i have a multifunction steering wheel

    will have a look at the clutch switch later, thanks
    #11
  12. NHN
    Online

    NHN Modmetractor

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2008
    Messages:
    27,230
    Likes Received:
    1,220
    Thats what allot of people dont realise, the amount of R&D that goes into vcds so we can utlise the security access & code up things like cruise etc, for us specifically we'd be goosed without it huh fella, vas is good, all the time its updated & used via the online system, at a huge cost though, but for me its just a ball breaker most the time, dealers have to enter so much **** before even getting to coding, eg. passwords, job no, reg etc etc just so audi can keep its nose in your business of whats happened to your car, its a form of control over an item you've bought from them, which is for me ridiculous, as 99.9999% of owners dont play with there cars anyway.

    If vag think about how much time is wasted on pointless tasks, just so they can know you've stuck an aftermarket cd player in the car, they'd see its costing them & dealers millions, if not billions around the world, time is money no matter which way you cut it.
    #12
  13. jb0o
    Online

    jb0o North East Forum Moderator Site Sponsor

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2009
    Messages:
    2,615
    Likes Received:
    104
    Definitely agree mate. Everything gets logged and recorded and always at an expense.
    #13
  14. deian3387
    Offline

    deian3387 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    0
    clutch switch ok, checked values of cc switch and all functions ok but when i check for cc value under engine man it says cc not enabled so i think that's where its gone wrong. So i take it the cc isn't enabled on engine man
    #14
  15. kostaspa
    Offline

    kostaspa New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2012
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    I get this when I retrofitet cc:
    18106 - Please Check DTC Memory of Steering Wheel Electronics
    P1698 - 008 - - Intermittent
    Please help.

    A4 b7
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2012
    #15
  16. NHN
    Online

    NHN Modmetractor

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2008
    Messages:
    27,230
    Likes Received:
    1,220
    Do what it tells you to do.
    #16
  17. kostaspa
    Offline

    kostaspa New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2012
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    I cleared errors on SWCM but nothing

    Here 18106/P1698/005784 - Ross-Tech Wiki indicated:

    When found after a Cruise Control Retrofit verify the 16-Steering Wheel electronics to 01-Engine control module CCS (GRA) wiring is installed and connected to the proper terminal at the Engine side.

    What does mean? I need a wire? More info?
    #17
  18. NHN
    Online

    NHN Modmetractor

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2008
    Messages:
    27,230
    Likes Received:
    1,220
    What do you mean, but nothing, do you mean cruise isnt working?
    #18
  19. kostaspa
    Offline

    kostaspa New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2012
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yes, mate.Never it worked, Just fitted with MFSW ,slip ring, control module. Everything works fine, no errors except this.
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2012
    #19
  20. NHN
    Online

    NHN Modmetractor

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2008
    Messages:
    27,230
    Likes Received:
    1,220
    Ok, so what coding have you done thus far?
    #20
  21. kostaspa
    Offline

    kostaspa New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2012
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Engine 01
    Coding-II 11
    Enter 11463
    The code accepted but then:

    Address 01: Engine Labels: REDIR FAIL!
    Control Module Part Number: 8E0 906 018 AM
    Component and/or Version: 1,6l R4/2VSIM3 G 0030
    Software Coding: 0006271
    Work Shop Code: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 73EFAE6811AE376
    1 Fault Found:
    18106 - Please Check DTC Memory of Steering Wheel Electronics
    P1698 - 008 - - Intermittent
    Readiness: 0010 1001

    The SWCM gave this but it was cleared:

    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q
    Component: Lenksαulenmodul 0801
    Coding: 02041
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 418334A04B92D56
    1 Fault Found:
    00895 - Cruise Control Switch (E45)
    04-00 - Mechanical Malfunction
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2012
    #21
  22. NHN
    Online

    NHN Modmetractor

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2008
    Messages:
    27,230
    Likes Received:
    1,220
    Have you checked the wire is present from one end to the other, normally is tbh on a B7.

    Have you checked the mesuring blocks to test the cruise switch to see if the steering cu is getting signals properly.
    #22
  23. kostaspa
    Offline

    kostaspa New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2012
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks NHN for your help, is very appreciated. Please tell me how I could check these,
    Especially the wire.
    #23
  24. NHN
    Online

    NHN Modmetractor

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2008
    Messages:
    27,230
    Likes Received:
    1,220
    Unfortunately you're using a clone vcds cable, so until you get a genuine cable I cant help you further.
    #24
  25. kostaspa
    Offline

    kostaspa New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2012
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    I asked for help from an audi mate,not from a cable seller.
    It is sadly.
    #25
  26. NHN
    Online

    NHN Modmetractor

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2008
    Messages:
    27,230
    Likes Received:
    1,220
    You got help which tbh is more than I normally would have given to fake users, but if you can afford to do the mods & run that car, you can afford to buy the correct genuine tools for the work, I cant be seeing to support people with fake illegal cables, personally I think its wrong anyway, regardless if I sell the cables or not.

    Ross-tech give there free time to help people like yourselves on forums who dont even own any cables, which I respect, you obviously dont, otherwise you would of bought the real product or at least licensed the software.

    Once you have the genuine product, I will happily help when I'm available.
    #26
  27. madstaff
    Offline

    madstaff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2012
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    2
    I have been thinking of installing cruise control on my 2.0 TDi B7 and have been reading all sorts on how to code it in once the hardware is fitted.

    Although i dont have VCDS, what i do have is a Snap-On Solus Ultra which has a mode on it called 'Expert Mode' which does the same functions as VCDS.

    I have read a guide which says to recode the ABS module too?? Which no one else seems to mention, and also maybe recalibrate G85 steering sensor?

    I have already scanned my ECU and the steering ECU is part number 8E0953549Q.

    Is it really as simple as fitting the switch then -

    [01] Engine / Coding / 11463 (to enable cruise)

    [16] Steering wheel / Coding / change my original code 04012 to new code 04042


    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2012
    #27
  28. stu_m
    Offline

    stu_m Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2009
    Messages:
    1,442
    Likes Received:
    36
    You only have to do the ABS and steering sensor if you change the steering module
    #28
  29. PetrolDave
    Offline

    PetrolDave Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2003
    Messages:
    1,559
    Likes Received:
    82
    Close but not quite right.

    The change to the engine ECU [01] isn't a coding change [07] it's a login [11].

    I found that the steering wheel coding change wouldn't be accepted if the cruise control switch was in the ON position.
    #29
  30. madstaff
    Offline

    madstaff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2012
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    2
    So is it then -

    [01] Engine / [11] Login / 11463 (to enable cruise)

    [16] Steering wheel / [07] Coding / change my original code 04012 to new code 04042


    Some descriptions mention [11] as either Login and/or coding II, the software i'm using refers to [11] as
    11-Login Request (Except KW2000)
    or
    11-ECU Coding 2 (KW2000 Only)

    My menu looks like this

    01-Read ECU Identification
    02-Check DTC Memory
    03-Actuator Tests
    04-Basic settings
    05-Clear DTC Memory
    06-Stop Communication
    07-ECU Coding
    08-Read Measuring Value Block
    09-Read ADC Channel
    10-Adaptation
    11-Login Request
    15-Check readiness Code Setting​
    16-Security Access

    Last edited: Aug 1, 2012
    #30
  31. PetrolDave
    Offline

    PetrolDave Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2003
    Messages:
    1,559
    Likes Received:
    82
    Since the engine ECU doesn't use the KW2000 protocol, 11 means Login Request.
    #31

Share This Page