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Prawn and BigAls A3 Track Car

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by Prawn, Dec 29, 2010.

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    what you dont seem to realise is the extra weight, from entry to mid corner is also trying to slide off the heavier car from its momentum.. The additional weight carries its own inertia, and for the same contact patch from tyres, the lighter car will have a higher corner speed and be able to brake later, exit faster... Only thing 4wd has is more traction.
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    Fcn Jardo....

    Why are facts based on this forum and an odd "fun day" ?

    This forum is not the bench mark for the rest of the world is it??

    Prawn does well on track because he is a bloody good driver and the car isnt bad too...:)

    Who said anybody was racing? most peoples cars are there daily and cannot afford to bin it at combe, and prawns is actually set up for the track and not a compromise like most cars on here..


    You need to get out just a little more ....:beerchug:
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    you are wrong dave. if jardo says it, its true, there can be NO compromise. dont you get it. jeeeez
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    Westy ffs hurry up and get a derv so you can strip the sh!t out of the S3 and stand up for our corner lol.
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    best not mention the lupo incident then :undwech:
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    plate diff on mine has'nt felt anything other than smooth... but just grips
    I was expecting it to be snatchy etc but it never has.. but has superb traction when its locked under power out of corners.. The atb diffs on mine would struggle and continually vector torque to one side than another, which made it snake under power... Thats with too much power.
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    thats because the atb will never lock.. it cant. it transfers the torque to the slower speed output.. continually.. Never locks.
    stick one tyre on grass and one on tarmac and it will spin.. Plate diffs wont. It needs "some" traction to be able to bias the torque.
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    This would be lots of fun :)

    Fear not chaps, the banter about my lack of grip will soon end, BigAl will go and buy more tyres we don't need on ebay, and it'll all get back on topic.

    I'm stuck at work until tomorrow night, then this weekend I already have my next improvement project to start, using bits of 3mm steel plate, a drill, some orange paint, a few shiney bits, some random parts from a volvo, and a massey Ferguson tractor brake pedal return spring!


    What this space :)
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    lol. that couldnt be more random
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    Dave and SK, my post is in reply to all the numptys below saying the car needs Haldex and that the wheels don't spin in their TQS/S3/ whatever.

    -

    This next mod is going to be awesome, I am actually finding it hard to contain how utterly stupid and pointless it is. Niki and I had a good laugh about your rage the other day, stupid fatboy lol
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    You're just jealous.

    I'm not surprised you had a good laugh about it, seeing as you told him I paid 3x what I did for it! If anyone actually paid that much for them, then I'd be laughing too!

    Anyway, that is not for discussion here. All will be revealed, if, and when it works :)
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    Mentioning ADI...
    A few years back there was a black mk1 TT blasting around at a fair rate of Knots, That was AWD , i think it was matt black , Stripped out. Went well, Does anybody remember it?
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    JBS modifiedSaid to be around 500 bhp Was in Redline some years ago
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    If it don't work, will you reveal it?

    Or just tell me when you whisper sweet nothings in my ear.
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    That sounds cool, I love the idea of a TT track car, it looks so much more racey than my timid little hatch back!

    I'm really looking forward to ADI next year, with more and more forum members getting track tyres/ building track orientated cars, and swinging towards the trackday side of things, I reckon we could have some great events in the future :)

    So wish I could go home and drive the beast now though!
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    Ah... No match for King Prawn though.:undwech:
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    MIGGZ nanananananananan BATMAN

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    lol paul you very bitter today
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    Fact. The driver of that TT was a total cock, I had a chat with him and he was such a bellend. The lads with the ex WTCC Toledo that were competing in Britcar were a much hetter bunch. I loved that Toledo.
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    From about 99% of what you post i would say the same about you.
    Get to know somebody first maybe?
    If you didnt like him... Then his car was shat?
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    Not at all.
    People read me all wrong.
    Yes i think the new King of the hill status is a bit OTT but... the lad drives a track car... and drives it well.
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    I love this thread. Great car Prawn!
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    Best start cracking out the ply and replicating nige`s mk2 for that aggressive race look lol.
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    maybe im just reading it wrong sorry dude did not mean to be blunt, it just seemed like the last 3 pages you were very off.
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    I spent about half an hour talking to him, he was a cock. His car went out for two or three laps then went back in for one issue or another, I remember the car well and it was by no means a refined track monster. On the day Prawn was lapping roughly 1:18 which is ****ing quick. For me the suprise of the day was the 205 GTI, I would have loved to have seen Prawn and the Pug on track together.

    Judging by your posts in this thread do you not think you are throwing a stone in a glass house? Just chill out, nobody has said anything about you or to you, so stop with the unneeded aggression and defense and lets all get back to being men :)
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    Why are you bringing my Dad into this Paul :laugh:
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    1:20's consistently, with the ko3s at 200bhp J-rod. Chill out though man, Paul isn't coming over aggressive, everyone has an opinion, and it's all a good debate :)

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    Its coz i'm the man
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    :iagree: :iagree: :iagree:
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    I've found the replies, since the power was revealed VERY interesting. A smattering of sour grapes, envy (nothing wrong with envy) jealousy, lack of knowledge, no or little experience, keyboard warriors, (they've all done the Ring in 5 mins) and those who are clearly motorway drivers, who considerer cornering and braking second.

    This car was built as a track car and was also an engineering exercise in what can be achieved. No compromise is the PRAWN motto and it has been successful.
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    :iagree: this, although I'd really rather let the argument lie now Big Bad, you shouldn't have stayed out all night partying and slept all day and joined in last night instead when the debate was in full swing :laugh:

    Anyone can have no imagination and build a technically brilliant M3, this is just a good bit of father and son fun and an experiment in seeing what can be achieved :)

    Long may it continue :racer:
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    Having thrown my twopence in the ring it has to be said that the majority of the responses have been great. Its all l about pushing the boundaries and not being complacent.
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    Yeah i dont think any of us would ever seriously slate Prawn or the car for any reason. Its all a bit of banter which has been mentioned preiovusly.

    Deep down we`re all nearly as chuffed as Prawn is at the outcome of the build and without people like him doing these projects and pushing the boundaries then passing on the knowledge to others so that we can follow on this forum would just be people reporting issues and problems with the cars and the place would be dull as hell. People like Welly years ago and still doing it now then Prawn following on from that. Westy for pushing the limits of the standard turbo and proving everyone wrong. Obviously all with the help of decicated people like Bill and Niki.

    Just a few names as im sure theres many more that contribute and comments will be made about all those builds/people that may seem like digs or unwelcome opionions but at the end of the day we`re all greatful these people have the time and put the effort into making these great builds that benefit us all in the end.

    We all love eachother really :kiss: (Apart from Jardo maybe haha)
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    Yay, everyone loves each other again :wub:

    Dead excited about going home and starting on my next adventure. Tori picked up the last remaining package from the post office last night which has come all the way from Slovenia :laugh:
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    Bloody hell what happened to this thread?? Prawn, whatever makes you happy. Good effort job done! Everyone go have some fun now.
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    Don't worry, we're back on track now :)

    This weekend will see me combining this:

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    With some of these:

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    And one of these:

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    Along with something like this:

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    to create something cool :racer:
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    I've not had to read that much text since I was at school 100 years ago :w00t:

    Loving the route the track slag has taken over the last few months.
    And to think I said you should re-shell it and start again.

    The car truly is the pride of the Terrorist Squad. Big respect to Prawny and big Al
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    Denied, a 261bhp K03s is the pride of the terrorist squad. Prawns car was always going to be epic and is much less of a surprise. I was 73% certain your car was going to be ****.

    :p
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    hahahahaha.

    we're all one big happy family :D
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    I don't care what anyone else thinks you car is fantastic. A true cutting edge car that has pushed the boundrys further on. You should be proud of what you have achieved and all the hard work you've put into it. I'm a little surprised at some of the reaction you recived but hay ho. What's next on the to do list? A bit of aero?
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    I've got to fit all of the above along with the main addition I've not yet got pics of.
    Once that's done, Ive got brake cooling ducts to fit, and new pads all round.

    Then, maybe then, ill get myself some plywood and start experimenting!

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