Yep Milton Keynes mate.
Ess...what do you think about the initial query... 197 straight line speed(unsure if modified)... vs....mapped and non mapped S3.... wana kick this fella next time i see him bcos hes dented my ego lol.....just dont wana spend money if its gonna be a no go'er.
Thanks Sharpy.... i would but for the sake of £15, i was going to buy one and keep as a spare if that wasnt at fault.... What map have you got on yours?
I so want there to be a difference though
Oh there will be...
But the trouble with cars like the S3, is that people think they have to rev them out to get the best out of them...if you have an aggressive re-map, it's faster short-shifting and letting the torque work for you.
With a re-mapped S3...it's even more fun playing off roundabouts / out of tight corners...
Fall for the 'rev limiter in every gear' method and you'll find the S3 not a lot faster than standard as you are changing up well past the torque peak, and starting to heatsoak everything nicely...playing into the hands of a light, NA high revving car's hands.
Play to your cars strengths...
I have a Custom Code map, installed at JBS in November of last year, wish I'd had it done sooner. You're still welcome to a blast in it if it'll help you decide to get it done.
Ess, i struggled when i first got this car, coming from my 150brake A3... i noticed that you have to have confidence in the gearing a changes to get the most out of it... i think this is what your emphasising will be needed 'more so' when remapped.....
Sharp..... will PM you in the next couple of weeks if you dont mind me nipping round/meeting up..... i think this will be the best course of action to make my mind up.... would you mind a quick head to head aswell to get an idea of the difference?..... where abouts are you in Sheff?
ESS Three,
Why is it Imprza seem to have good stats when really the power loss shouldnt do it any favours, from memory am i not correct in saying the Impreza has a torrsion system which has even more loss at the wheels than a Haldex.
My S3 was making around 275BHP/330lb-ft and was quickest changing up at around 5000-5200RPM...
That dropped you back onto the torque. It was fast road and track. You just had to let go of the notion that revving out was fastest...and let the torque do the work. It worked well...but was quite alien after an Integra Type-R!
Roundabouts were fastest if you came off in 3rd...etc.
I'm in Dore, don't mind you coming up, but it might be better if I met you down at JBS. We could have a blast up the Unstone by-pass if its back to two lanes...
Glen....will the uprated Haldex make a great deal of difference?
Its an 03 S3 unmodified
would turning the traction control off made much difference in my little clio contest?
To my mind, you need to pick your battles carefully...wet day, off a roundabout. Job done. It's not about being fair...it's about using the strengths...and minimising the weaknesses!
I very rarely used to turn my ESP off...
If I wanted to get sidewards out of a junction, or do a really quick take off, I'd turn it off...but other than that, I'd leave it on, and it was fine.
It always amazes me how people can push their own limits so far without knowing how their car will react.
I can see it now, he turned in, understeered - lifted off, **** himself when the car started going sideways.
Wont be long till he planks it in a bush by the sounds of it. Haldex quattro and ESP are very good elerctronic devices but even they wont protect a complete numpty.
Had someone do something similar at a roundabout with an odd camber behind me not so long ago, silly boy lol
At times I have turned mine off to stop the bogging down effect but am now questioning whether you are quicker as the wheels spin?
performance car magazine has a few articles on the new clio cup and a match against the williams version which makes for good reading
totally agree mate..... ive never lost control of a car yet...never had the need to push the car that hard....if i need to then thats the time to back off IMO on standard roads..... this was just stupidity on his part......
Renaults will always be Renaults, **** ugly (although the clio isnt that bad) and built from recycled nappies
Did you see 5th Gear last night?
That Clio Cup looks mental...white with black wheels. Some chassis...the Mini is good...but it made that look ordinary.
The thing is...how do you find out where the limit is, if you never get close to it?
I'm not suggesting everyone try, and crash...but if you don't push the envelope, how do you know what the car is capable of?
I've spun a few fars...usually on the track...and one on the road resulting in a write off. Not something I'm proud of...but it taught me a lesson.
The line between 'in control' and 'crash' can vary...
On a well sorted S3, it's neutral, predictable (ish) and it gives you a bit of warning when you are close to it letting go...
My Integra Type-R didn't...drive, reach limit, crash heavily. Game over. All in under 5 seconds...
The 911 I have no idea where the limit is...wherever it is, it's way higher than the man behind the wheel.
I can throw my Golf about in a manner that would frighten many people...but I know it's not close to the limit of the car, given the fact that the road conditions are not compromised by mud etc.
I suppose this is where trackdays teach you so much...you find the limit and learn to drive up to it...but not on, or beyond it.
Did you see 5th Gear last night?
That Clio Cup looks mental...white with black wheels. Some chassis...the Mini is good...but it made that look ordinary.
Yes it is heres a quote which speaks volumes "the williams floods you with feedback whilst the cup batters you with G-force"What's the verdict?
Bigger, faster, more power, better built...but still no better than the Williams?