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Lower tie arm snapped whilst driving

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by kelk11, Dec 2, 2012.

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    Driving home earlier, drove around a corner and over a grate to hear a ding followed by a massive drift. Thought it must be ice on the road. Carried on driving but the car started to snake so stopped pulled over.
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    so will these do?

    Audi A3/S3 Quattro MK1 S/S TIE ARMS (PAIR) | eBay

    Do I also need separate bushes? Thanks.
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    They will be fine mate, you also need to look at changing the bushs in the hub, they seize up and thats what causes the tie arm to snap, audi have done a revised part that stops this from happeneing, have a search on here for rear hub bushes, if you cant rind it ill post the part number when im back home tomorrow.
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    1J0505203 from searching this seems to be the one I need?
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    Is everything else ok? No bent shocks or anything?
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    Don't think so as once its jacked up, everything seems to line up as it falls back into place. Watching it get dragged onto an aa recovery truck with the wheel like that made me massively cringe and feel slightly sick ha. If the suspension is damaged and now the fact ill get adjustable tie bars, what an excuse to upgrade the springs and shocks anyhow
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    Oh, that's good then. I'd be worried everything would be buggered but like you say, a good excuse to upgrade.
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    Ill check tomorrow.

    You need to be getting the rear diff checked after that mate, something like that can cause serious issues, make sure you or a garage give it a proper looking over and make sure nothing else has been affected.
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    I need to hurry up and get my bushes fitted, dont fancy snapping your tie arms dave, seeming their now like rocking horse ****e lol.
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    I have these mate brilliant set
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    Cheers Dan but i honestly think they would not snap them buggers....the sussy would just go rock hard..
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    If your in standard suspension you don't really need adjustable tie arms . I got a full set (4 arms) including bushes, nuts and bolts etc for around £90. Although its a good investment if your considering going lower in the future.
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    Massive thanks to s3dave, should be all sorted tomorrow!
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    What have you gone for ?
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    Gone with a used oem tie bar just to get the car back on the road for now. Will upgrade when or if I sort the suspension out and of cause save some money.
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    I had spare ones what they set u back ?
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    What are those ebay tie arms like on the first post ? might get them not a bad price. I need to sort my rear end ASAP my creaking of the seized rose joints has got worse with all this bad weather, and my car is lowered so I need them really
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    The blokes who make them no they stuff you do get bait of road noise but doesn't bother me
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    Mine did this on the revised part aswell, was totall shocked years back when I was driving 5mph over a hump in road & it went, problem was the bearing cage cracked on that side, so as said check the rear drive to be sure no other damage.
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    Those compbrake ebay tie arms are a good price , Online shops have them priced at £240.
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    so the car has been repaired today, mechanic said the rose joint hadn't seized and was fine but the other end was a nightmare to remove. new tie arm seems to have sorted the camber from -2 to 0 from looking at it.
    no damage to report other the than the arb had popped off somewhere but is fine now.
    taken it out for a spin tonight just to check everything and i now have fwd :-( what should i be checking?
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    Check the earth strap to the haldex.. if no joy come up on saturday for a scan...(assuming you have not got VCDS?)
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    Needa scanning mate but from something like that it could have damaged the diff, haldex unit etc.
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    thanks Dave, ill pm you nearer the weekend in the mean time ill get my head under and look to see if the earth strap is intact.
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    Do people put the adjustable arms on the top or bottom?
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    Any is ok, bottom ones are easier to replace than top, I would say bottom is the more popular position, since it's easier access, and usually the ones to snap off!
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    Or do what ive done and buy 2 sets so you can have them on the top and bottom lol.
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    Yeah and avoid having to bugger around with changing bushes etc
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    so a bit of an update, Dave scanned the car for me and it came back with the following code

    01155 - Clutch

    04-10 Mechanical Malfunction - Intermittent.

    had a search around various forums with out a conclusive diagnosis. some people have changed the precharge pump to fix this issue, I don't think its that. Others have had to replace the haldex and diff, this seems more plausible due to the strain the tie bar snapping will have placed on the diff.

    anybody have any experience with this fault code and what did you do to fix it?
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    my stepdad is a recovery driver and I remember when the 8l was not far off new I was with him picking 1 up with a broken tie bar, as he pulled it on to the back of the wagon, the other side snapped as well. I don't fancy 1 braking on me thanks.
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    I would start a new thread About "Haldex issues" mate..
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    Same thing happened to me late Friday on the M54, luckily I was only doing 60mph when it gave way! Bloody exciting couple of seconds holding on to the steering wheel!
    Have had to have it recovered to my in laws house 120 miles away in North Wales, but they have no local garage in their village.

    I have ordered a pair of KW adjustable replacements as the car is lowered 30mm and will have to install them with the car on axle stands, but as I didn't have any tools with me I could check what size tools I would need, so does anyone know what size sockets and spanners I will need? Also as I can't get it aligned straight away should I temporarly set them up to the same measurement as the opposite side. (Using a tape measure)
    Thanks guys
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    Just a quick update to this thread, having come to the conclusion the diff was damaged, i've had it looked at on a ramp today and the driveshaft was damaged at the cv end causing the shaft to spin freely as it had worn smooth. 1 new driveshaft later i now have power to all 4 wheels again. :)
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