goubo stroker gt35 build nears completion

[Goubo1]

That's it! I'm gonna try and run it in as much as possible since I Iive nearer to bill than you do. Try and get 1000 miles before mapping..

Sounds like a plan...I'd have had to took it home changed the oil and turned around and drove back lol

 

[Jenno007]

So can you do a power run on a car without running it in at all? I thought that you needed to do at least a few miles to bed the rings in.

So is it possible this beast is actually making more power now?

 

[Goubo1]

So can you do a power run on a car without running it in at all? I thought that you needed to do at least a few miles to bed the rings in.

So is it possible this beast is actually making more power now?

Bill did the initial bedding/breaking in on the dyno and some road miles before mapping..he had a few trips to get the wheels aligned because my rear tie bars were crap and broke lol.....he did say that the final peak figure of 596.5bhp was with the engine still being a bit tight....I don't know if I would make more power but a extra 3.5bhp would be nice not that it's really needed haha

 

[Jenno007]

Bill done miles on the car and did the initial bedding in on dyno before mapping.....he did say that the final peak figure of 596.5bhp was with the engine still being a bit tight....I don't know if I would make more power but a extra 3.5bhp would be nice not that it's really needed haha

Ah that explains it. Not sure it would be worth driving all the way back to get a new dyno printout hoping it says 600bhp haha.

 

[Goubo1]

Ah that explains it. Not sure it would be worth driving all the way back to get a new dyno printout hoping it says 600bhp haha.

Na it's not mate 596.5 is in my eyes 600bhp anyways and on the **** dyno it feels savage the few pulls I've gave the car

 

[daithi23]

Totally worth the drive!

 

[Jenno007]

I round up every day of the week, unless it's 1/4 or 0-60 times

 

[Goubo1]

Totally worth the drive!

For me it's not just to see if I have gained 0.58% of my power lol

 

[daithi23]

I know the power difference is negligible, but it would annoy me being so close to 600! Find a dyno close to home and see what it makes!

 

[Jenno007]

Apparently bills rollers read low? So I would imagine it will easily make 600hp on some closer to home

 

[Jenno007]

I know the power difference is negligible, but it would annoy me being so close to 600! Find a dyno close to home and see what it makes!

I have a car with 395rwkw (the commonly used way to measure power here in Australia) and it's a little sad that I'm not in the 400rwkw club

 

[Goubo1]

I know the power difference is negligible, but it would annoy me being so close to 600! Find a dyno close to home and see what it makes!

maybe sometime it will see a dyno but going things like dyno days ain't really my thing

 

[Goubo1]

I have a car with 395rwkw (the commonly used way to measure power here in Australia) and it's a little sad that I'm not in the 400rwkw club

It is what it is the haha the final figure is the final figure

 

[S3Alex]

maybe sometime it will see a dyno but going things like dyno days ain't really my thing

Personally,I hate the sound of the car on a dyno.....I just have visions of pistons and rods everywhere,but have had a few good meets along the way,even if the car sits it out.

I'm glad you're having fun with it....the sheer grunt is amazing isn't it.....the only car I've had that was significantly quicker point-to-point was an ex GpN Escort Cosworth with all the rally trimmings but it was a hard car to drive daily.

Also good to see another forum member knocking around at this ungodly hour....

 

[Goubo1]

Personally,I hate the sound of the car on a dyno.....I just have visions of pistons and rods everywhere,but have had a few good meets along the way,even if the car sits it out.

I'm glad you're having fun with it....the sheer grunt is amazing isn't it.....the only car I've had that wasificantly quicker point-to-point was an ex GpN Escort Cosworth with all the rally trimmings but it was a hard car to drive daily.

I know the visions your talking about haha....great fun mate the few times I've have gave it some I just start laughing after it as you say the sheer grunt is incredible..but it's way to easy to get to silly speeds so some self control is required isn't it

 

[Sandra]

It is what it is the haha the final figure is the final figure

Rob, wise words there. Now all you have to remember is to watch your speed. You know they constantly speed trapping around here, Your car has come a long way from the way it was, Just enjoy it. Hopefully get a chance to catch up soon. x

 

[snowy]

Your Police up in Scotland do seem very zero-tolerance & eager

 

[Goubo1]

Your Police up in Scotland do seem very zero-tolerance & eager

Yeah they are but imagine what it would be will if everyone just drove at what speed they wanted lol total chaos

 

[badger5]

So can you do a power run on a car without running it in at all? I thought that you needed to do at least a few miles to bed the rings in.

So is it possible this beast is actually making more power now?

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

 

[Jenno007]

I think Prawn linked this a while ago. Is this how you break in your engines and the majority of the engines you build? The tuning place I am taking my car to said I can run in my car however I want, however a lot of people want a run in tune with a rpm limit

 

[badger5]

More boosts........... 500+miles of running in under its belt.... 627bhp........... 451lbft badger torques
hell yea..

 

[Prawn]

Eek.

That's insane. Must be rather brisk on the road!

 

[Jenno007]

that is unreal, did you need to make many map adjustments? how much boost now?

 

[daithi23]

Holy sh1t!!! That's insane! I want that!

 

[S3Alex]

Now that's a great result.

You'll have one happy client there,Badger.
Well done.

One question and you know I'm not picking or having a dig at your work ... It's the torque peak or rather the rpm it's coming at.

Is that down to the mapping or the turbo/engine combination?

Mine uses a GTX3582 on a nominal 2L engine but the peak torque is at a lower rpm but also uses a very different ECU so I'm just interested in how this all works out.

Ahh. Edit.
Different cam specs also no doubt.
You're using a set of your special ones aren't you!

 

[superkarl]

What's the full spec?

 

[Andrew@A.L.D]

You need to work on getting that power down

 

[S3Alex]

You need to work on getting that power down

Getting it down,or down on the road?....LOL

How are you getting on with your Quaife?

 

[Goubo1]

You need to work on getting that power down

Blue controller has been fine for traction

 

[Goubo1]

Keep full spec secret

 

[S3Alex]

Blue controller has been fine for traction

With that and 450lbs,it no doubt should be fine....I never really noticed the controller working,which must be a good thing.

Bet you're looking forwards to 620+bhp on a nice dry road.

 

[S3Alex]

Keep full spec secret

Nitromethane....

Joking!

I honestly think what you guys have done is fantastic.......when I started with Cosworths 20yrs ago,this sort of power was the realm of grenade-spec rallycross engines.
Now,you can go down to the shops on it.....

 

[daithi23]

Keep full spec secret

Noooo, I must know!

 

[S3Alex]

Noooo, I must know!

Some like to keep their secret formulae,and some prefer open source if you like,but that's for each to decide I guess.

I hope Bill won't mind what I've asked as it doesn't compromise any of that,but the whole business of extracting 300+bhp/litre from these engines fascinates me.

There's something about a Ferrari-killing hatchback that's just so amusing.

 

[daithi23]

There's something about a Ferrari-killing hatchback that's just so amusing.

And that is why I would love to know. I'm a long way away yet, but this is my goal. Beat a Ferrari. I'm not demanding to know, simply stating my interest.

 

[Goubo1]

With that and 450lbs,it no doubt should be fine....I never really noticed the controller working,which must be a good thing.

Bet you're looking forwards to 620+bhp on a nice dry road.

it will be fun haha

 

[Goubo1]

Noooo, I must know!

Spec is s333cya badger edition haha

 

[S3Alex]

And that is why I would love to know. I'm a long way away yet, but this is my goal. Beat a Ferrari. I'm not demanding to know, simply stating my interest.

It's pretty much open source for the TFSi,because so many of us are using different routes to the same goal,and the builds have been posted up in full over several forums.
Even the "magical" bits like the ECU programming aren't too difficult to unravel,but when you come across someone who's doing something no-one else is with the 8L,I can understand.

 

[Goubo1]

Some like to keep their secret formulae,and some prefer open source if you like,but that's for each to decide I guess.

I hope Bill won't mind what I've asked as it doesn't compromise any of that,but the whole business of extracting 300+bhp/litre from these engines fascinates me.

There's something about a Ferrari-killing hatchback that's just so amusing.

300bhp+/ litre is really some achievemen...I don't really see many ferraris around my way but there is a white gtr that's on the hit list haha

 

[S3Alex]

Spec is s333cya badger edition haha

That definitely was a ROFL moment.

Wait till the first "big" car gets it's shock of the day.