I just got a DVD from www.play.com called 'Tiff Needell - Burning Rubber'. Sounds incredibly cheesy I know but it's actually quite good. Basically shows Needell doing all his usual antics but he tells you how he does it. He starts of in FWD cars (a Puma) then moves onto RWD (BMW M Coupe) then 4wd (Skyline, Impreza, EVO VI). Finally he takes his Lister Storm race car for a blast. Theres some good outtakes at the end that show how even he fecks it up sometimes, very amusing. Best bit is it costs £4.49 including P&P /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. Christian PS If you don't believe me, ask Al B. He's got a copy /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif.