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DSG Woes & Turning engine off

Sayam Oct 7, 2013

  1. Sayam

    Sayam Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    Hi all,

    Must say I'm loving being the proud owner of a black edition and thank you to everyone who posted advice in my thread before I bought one.

    I'm just a little concerned about my DSG gearbox. Now I've taken it for a motorway and A-road drive and around town too so have covered all types of driving in it.

    It changes up smooth, kicks down nicely, the tiptronic mode is good, everything works as it should bar 2 things. The clank when it down shifts from 3rd to 2nd gear and very rarely 4th to 3rd. Now here's something I've noticed...(relatively speaking) when I brake harder its almost as though the box chucks itself into 3rd from 4th or 2nd from 3rd and that helps slowing the car down (and making the clunk), whereas if I brake more gently then the down changes happen with no noises at all and very smoothly...the best way I can describe is if you were driving a manual car, and you down changed before your speed was appropriate for the gear you were down changing into, you'd feel the car decelerate quickly and sharply if you took your foot of the clutch...any ideas?

    Secondly, and this happens more around town cos I drive with the window down and can hear it, again the box works perfectly but makes all sorts of weird and wonderful clicks and clunks sometimes...I'm almost starting to think they are made like that because it changes up/down fine, just makes some noise about it lol...does anyone know what it could be?

    Looking at its history, the box has had the oil and filter changes down on time every time and it was just recently done as part of a service before I bought the car.

    Maybe I can describe it this way.is the DSG built for giving the fastest gear change rather than the smoothest drive, or should it be doing both?

    And lastly, when I turn the engine off there is a squeak like a belt or tensioner type squeak from the right hand side of the engine if you're facing out when sat in the driver seat, which is the left hand side of the engine if you had your head under the bonnet. Again, does anyone have any ideas?

    Please be considerate with your advice (not that you arent) because I'm considering taking out a 3rd party warranty just incase for the gear box...

    thanks in advance

    PS Next week I'll be home in Yorkshire, any chance someone local could take me out in their car so I can try compare? Amongst my own friends the closest I have access to is a 2005 BKD DSG 140 but I'm guessing the engine/gearbox are totally different?
     
  2. bomasspot

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    With regard to your jerky gear changes it could just need calibrating with VCDS 6-Speed Direct Shift Gearbox (DSG/02E) - Ross-Tech Wiki if you have a cable or another member near you could do it for you. As for the squeak it may be a belt or tensioner-again someone would need to check whilst you switch off the engine.
     
  3. Sayam

    Sayam Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    I don't have a cable or any software unfortunately. What does the procedure outlined in the link do, just recalibrate the engage/disengage points and stuff for the box?
     
  4. sliced

    sliced Drive safe, stay alive.

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    Were you driving it in S or D?
     
  5. fangio

    fangio Well-Known Member

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    Should be the same, both Dsg.
     
  6. H17YD L

    H17YD L Active Member

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    How many miles has the car done and has it had the DSG oil changed?
     
  7. monopole

    monopole Well-Known Member

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    He asked this because in S the down gear changes are more abrupt than in D, almost sedate
     
  8. H17YD L

    H17YD L Active Member

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    I think Fangio was replying to the other question about whether the gearbox is the same as his friends 2.0TDI
     
  9. monopole

    monopole Well-Known Member

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    Aaaah yes, re-read.
     
  10. Sayam

    Sayam Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    I only ever drive in D, I've stepped up from a 115bhp diesel to this 170 so never feel the need to go into S.

    Car has 100K and yes all the DSG oil changes have been done, maybe 1 extra because its had 3 in total.

    Do you think its worth booking into the dealer to do a fresh oil change now I've got the car? Or can the diesel run some sort of diagnostic on it?
     
  11. H17YD L

    H17YD L Active Member

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    If the DSG oil changes where done at Audi I'd double check with them if they where done correctly, they will be on their system no matter what dealership they were done at. Then maybe see if they will be willing to look at it.
    Might be a mechatronic failure which cost quite a bit to sort out, google it to see if the symptoms are similar to yours.
     
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  12. H17YD L

    H17YD L Active Member

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    And the dealership can scan the car with their equipment which will show up and fault codes in the DSG. That's if the problem is severe enough to cause a fault code.
     
  13. Sayam

    Sayam Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    Been doing some more digging and the way that the symptoms are described on other forums it may be the subframe bolt problem. Most of the posts around this relate to MK5/6 Golf rather than the A3. Can anyone confirm if the 8P suffers from the same problem?
     
  14. H17YD L

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  15. Sayam

    Sayam Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    Thank you

    Will this work as the listen engine says 2.0 tfsi but I have 2.0 tdi DSG

    Also I assume the golf mk5/6 and 8p a3 are same fitment?
     
  16. Taroni

    Taroni Member

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    mine was clonky I changed the dogmount now its fine
     
  17. H17YD L

    H17YD L Active Member

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    Yes it will, subframe is the same.
     
  18. Sayam

    Sayam Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    Cool, thank you.
     

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