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Cruise Control retrofit

Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by pns2007, Jun 1, 2009.

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    [Jun 1, 2009]
    Just ordered my stalk and lower cowl (8PO 953 513 F 9B9 and 8PO 953 512 A 6PS) as I have mfsw I believe that my 58 plate A3 will not need a new slip ring or steering wheel control module (swcm)?

    The parts were £65 + vat with a bit of discount. Dealer qoted £379 for supply and fit. Doesn't look too bad and it will definately help pay back the cost of the VDS cable

    I have looked at several posts on here and believe that I am now ready to go!

    A few quick questions really which I'm unsure of:-

    1) So long as I disconnect the battery and turn the ignition to the on position and press the brake pedal, is there any thing else I should be warey of.

    2) I'm not too sure about the slip ring, having looked at Nigels comments below

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    Presumably, when the steering wheel has been removed it will show the slip ring. Where should the tape go to stop the slip ring moving and will the slip ring then just pull off the column. Is there a particular way for it to go back on. Any further detailed help would be great just so I know what I'm letting myself into.

    3) I know you have to take the steering wheel control module off, I've had a read through elsawin and understand about putting the 2.3 mm drill in the hole and unclipping the clip at the back, but does this then remove the whole of the swcm or does this allow for just the circuit board to be released. Will the security seal be broken this way and should I worry about this.

    I have VDS to re code and think I'm happy with this.

    Any other info that others may have would be great.

    Thanks



    2008 A3 cabriolet TDI S-Line
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    [Jun 2, 2009]
    Could you link to where you got the Stalk from?

    or was it a shop?

    Cheers and good luck
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    [Jun 2, 2009]
    The whole unit will come off when released properly with the 2.3mm tool, those that remove the cct board are those that don't know how to properly remove the controller. No worries with the seal, if you you have one. I don't think they are fitted anymore.

    I normally just use a perm marker to mark up the steering wheel position, also there is no great need to tape the slip ring just don't rotate it, if you do want to tape it then it will be obvious when you have the cowling off. The slip ring only fits one way and it's doweled to the steering column so you can't really get it wrong. I normally remove them and then place it carefully on top of the dashboard out of the way so as not to disturb it.

    You'll proably have some warnings on the dash insert when you first power up the car, once you've done the coding then drive it for a few yards in a straight line and this should clear them.
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    You use your finger for the rear release clip for the steering ecu & the drill bit for the front narrow hole to release this clip, I personally would never recommend removing the plastic housing trim of the ecu to get the unit of given the very fragile pin connections that arent exactly solid on the pcb anyway, but each to there own.

    Steering wheel & the spline are usually marked with a line anyway for centering, its indented into the metal, but I always work of center anyway, but yes you dont have to tape it but if you are not aware of the slip ring functionality & start playing with turning this then you'll end up in **** from the get go as it cant be turned even once, so I personally advise to tape the inner & outer of the slip ring in place, this will be obvious when you see the part what I mean.

    Seal is irrelevant tbh & I dont tend to disconnect battery myself but hey if it makes you feel better the go for it mate & as per Stu, the errors should clear upon short drive, only stay if new ecu detected & requires calibrating for steering angle, assist etc etc
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    [Jun 2, 2009]
    Thanks Guy's. I hope to do it this weekend if the parts come (there on back order at Audi).

    Hopefully you'll all be about at the weekend as if I get into difficulty (and I'm sure/hope I won't) I can post some comments. Might even do a full 'how to' guide for others.

    Got the stalk from my localk Audi dealer. Phoned Stoke Audi first but with postage it was a little dearer. I was checky and asked for some discount at my local dealership.

    Had difficulty getting a 12mm spline tool, but have managed to borrow one now.
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    [Jun 11, 2009]
    Well the cruise control has now been fitted and works fine. :)

    Not too bad took me about 3 and half hours most of which was trying to get the steering control module off (what a Barstool!).

    Connected everything back up and got steering angle, steering assist and ESP errors but managed to clear all fault codes.

    THE ISSUE - my main beam now wont work, well it only flashes and doesn't click in the forward position and stay on. There's no way I have broken it as there are no external parts on the stalk which could be damaged. I think its faulty.

    How do you guys think I should go about this, phone Audi and tell them their part is faulty and ask for a replacement? Take the car in and ask them to replace it or take the stalk off and return it as faulty.

    I can see them saying that as it wasn't professionally fitted I have to take responsibility. However, as I have mentioned there is nothing externally that I could have broken and it hasn't been forced or anything.

    Cheers

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