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Clutch/Flywheel options for BAM motor

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by aragorn, Mar 30, 2011.

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    [Mar 30, 2011]
    Yet another question about this BAM rebuild.

    The guy asked me to see what the options are with the clutch.

    Given its all out its probably a good idea to change the clutch at this point however when i inspected the flywheel it seems to "wobble". IE if you grab one edge of the friction surface, you can pull/push it away from and towards the crankshaft and it sort of rocks from side to side.

    I've had a look around and there appears to be a chassis revision on the flywheel assy around 2002, with this car being a 2004 model it has the newer version of the flywheel which costs a whopping 450quid. A Sachs clutch kit comes in around £160, meaning its nearly 600quid on a new flywheel and clutch.

    Are there any other viable options?

    Can i use the cheaper earlier flywheel, and what are the differences between the two?

    Is this "wobbly" flywheel normal, meaning i can refit it as is and just throw a new clutch and slave cylinder in?
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    A3's and S3's finished at 2003 so more than likely missed the revision... the TT section or even the TTOC forum may be a better shout for that info... where did you get the prices from?

    VAG have a habit of doing silly things with DMF's and clutches... Colin's (CMD) A4 was a funny one too with a clutch and DMF that appeared to be limited to his model on that particular year!!

    I can't imagine there would be much difference using an older version assuming the gearbox didn't change (the only reason I can think of as to why the clutch etc would be different)...

    The DMF and clutch for my S3 came to around the £350 from GSF and are LuK parts...

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    Prices came from euro car parts.

    The S3 did seem to get the later flywheel, according to ETKA Chassis number 3-050001> had the later flywheel.

    TT's seemed to get it a bit earlier.

    Afaik they all have the same 02M gearbox, so no idea what changed.

    Also the actual clutch itself didnt change, only the flywheel...
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    If its just the DMF thats changed then I can't see why the earlier one wouldn't work...

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    Any gen on wether this "wobble" is normal?

    I know they're supposed to rotate with relation to the crank, and this feels pretty tight and happy in that direction.

    My A4 one doesnt wobble however.
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    [Apr 1, 2011]
    bump?
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    Bump again...

    No-ones ever felt a S3 DMF and noticed any play?
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    change it just for peace of mind. I know its expensive but if it goes will be even more expensive. When i had my clutch changed they said there was a little play which was ok but i said change it anyway POM!
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    I just changed mine tbh mate... doubt there are many people that have changed their own clutch here and if they have I would imagine that they went single mass...

    I would imagine the wobble you describe is not a good thing and would cause a similar imbalance effect to a warped disc... I would suggest trying to find a motor factor close to you where you can have a look at a new one and compare else just bite the bullet and change it... they say the DMF should be changed on every second clutch change and I did buy mine for just over £200 from GSF...

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