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Brake upgrade ?

snowfree52 Jan 10, 2014

  1. snowfree52

    snowfree52 Full LED baby !

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    Has anyone been looking or have informations about brake upgrades for the A3 8V ?

    What can we mount from other cars, any brake kit available ?

    Are brakes from Golf golf 5 R32, S3 8P etc possible to mount ?
     
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2014
  2. Silky-S3

    Silky-S3 Is loving his new 8V S3!

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    I think the 8V S3 brakes are different from the 8P S3 brakes, well they feel different when using them hard.
     
  3. snowfree52

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    I've read somewhere new S3 are 340 and old S3 345
     
  4. geefunk1978

    geefunk1978 Well-Known Member

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    Currently working with Shark Performance to develop a brake upgrade kit with Brembo 4 Pot Calipers and AP Racing Discs. Watch this space will update with details when it's prototyped!
     
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  5. snowfree52

    snowfree52 Full LED baby !

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    nice !
     
  6. snowfree52

    snowfree52 Full LED baby !

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    Guys I found a nice pair of Golk R MK6 brakes, (calipers, pads, discs...) the guy is selling them for 410£

    Do you think they would fit ?

    what about the price ?

    Thanks !
     
  7. snowfree52

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    UP ?

    does someone who had/has an S3 /Golf R think the upgrade is worth it ?
     
  8. s3_trev

    s3_trev Northern Ireland Gold Supporter Audi S3 Team Brill Red

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    Im running approx 330 bhp and I have never felt the need to upgrade brakes. A friend running approx 360 feels the same. Others on here think its a worthwhile upgrade. I think you just need to ask yourself why you feel you need to upgrade? Have you been in a situation where you thought, God I need better brakes?
     
  9. snowfree52

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    Well clearly there were no situation when I felt I just almost died because the brakes were ****. mind you they are already 312 x 25 (as you know S3 8P brakes are 345 x 30.) and I didn't have the occasions to push them really hard.

    Still when I had my S3 8L wich had almost the same setup : (discs were 312 x 25 and maybe even the calipers are the same) Car was about the same weight, had a bit more power, so I think it's a good point of comparison
    I warped the discs without any trackday on a simple mountain road with the S3
    then I went bigger and loved it !

    [​IMG]

    I also have at the moment a Lotus Elise 111R which I actually don't use much but the brakes are nice !


    Then, do I really need S3 brakes ? Not really
    maybe until I go to some trackdays wich I will probably will but not before I swap my winter tires.

    I was interested in big brake kit but it may be a bit overkill, and I don't want to spend 1500£ on this car for the brakes.

    Then again, bigger brakes look nice on 18" wheels
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2014
  10. snowfree52

    snowfree52 Full LED baby !

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    well to keep this post up to date I searched a lot about brake weight and those are my discoveries :

    S3 345 brakes : calipers : 8,5kg discs : 12 total 20,5
    A3 312 : calipers : 6kg discs : 8,6kg total 14,6
    TTRS : total 17Kg
    S3 340 : total : 20
    VW racing 352*32 : 12

    A3 312 + Boxter calipers : calipers : 3,6kg discs : 8,6 total : 12,2


    At first I was interested by S3 345 brakes because of the OEM look, but they are way too heavy and I'm not sure it represents a huge improvement.

    Then TTRS brakes because they are cheap to buy but it seems they are a pain in the a*s to fit: need spacer, won't fit every 18" rims etc and parts are hugely expensive !! (500£ for 2 discs and 300£ for pads)

    Now I am looking at the porsche boxter (non S) front calipers conversion.

    Good things are :
    - WEIGHT !! calipers are 2,4kg lighter than the A3 calipers and 5Kg ligher than S3 calipers PER SIDE !!
    - COST : boxter calipers are really cheap, I found 2 with pads (used) for around 300£ with shipping.
    - COST again : no need to change the discs, they are just plug and play. and therefore, discs will still be cheap when you need to change them !

    All you need is :

    boxter non-S FRONT calipers (parts : 986.351.421, 986.351.422)
    Brackets to fit the calipers
    hoses with the correct end for porsche calipers

    then you have this :

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    picture taken here : porsche calipers - VW GTI Forum / VW Rabbit Forum / VW R32 Forum / VW Golf Forum - Golfmkv.com
     
  11. Arcam

    Arcam Active Member VCDS Map User

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    Did you end up doing this conversion?
     
  12. snowfree52

    snowfree52 Full LED baby !

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    no because :

    1. I am in conflict with Audi about warranty work and I guess it's not the right time to mount Porsche brakes
    2. I still haven't found the right brackets (related to 1)
     

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