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Anyone else got rust forming along the bottom of their doors?

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    As subject has anyone else got rust forming along the bottom of their doors, above the bump strips?

    As I have on both doors /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Looks like it must be where water gathers inside the door.


    Am I the only one or have others got this as well?


    Mark /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beerchug.gif
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    If you do a search there has been a thread on this subject in the last week. Basically i had this problem, took it to Audi, got a new door skin put on and trim under warranty (they do hold water around the fasteners)This was last year and mines a 99 import which i'd only owned for a month or so, so don't take any sh*t from them. If they did my import that wasn't even on the UK register at the time they should do anybodies.
    I would add that if they do agree to it, ask them to renew the bump strip on the entire side of the car not just the door as they do discolour and do look different from a distance.
    Good luck mate
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    Cool I remember you posting before about this, but I was just wondering whether anyone else had the same problem.

    So since you have had the door replaced has it started to do the same again? As surely it will do the same again if it's the same setup?

    Took it to Audi yesterday just waiting for the go ahead.
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    You got a pic mark. I'd like to check mine out. Is the rust on the inside, outside under or over the trim?

    Ta.
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    I have it too - look like it is bubbling from inside too - it hasnt burst through.
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    Mine was on the outside about 2 or 3 inch in from the edge of the door (handle side) above the bump strip, about the size of a top half of a 10p if you get my drift. It was just bubbling no rust showing.

    I now seem to have spots of rust forming on the back arches where there seems to be pin prick holes. Its just before the arch where i flares out if you know what i mean.
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    You got a pic mark. I'd like to check mine out. Is the rust on the inside, outside under or over the trim?

    Ta.

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    I'll get a pic matey when the rain stops /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burningmad.gif

    Hard to say whether it's coming from the inside or the outside as there are bubbles all the way along on the bottom of the door.
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    Mine was on the outside about 2 or 3 inch in from the edge of the door (handle side) above the bump strip, about the size of a top half of a 10p if you get my drift. It was just bubbling no rust showing.

    I now seem to have spots of rust forming on the back arches where there seems to be pin prick holes. Its just before the arch where i flares out if you know what i mean.

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    So no probs since you had a new door? Just can't see how it's not going to do the same again? If it's the same as before?
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    You got a pic mark. I'd like to check mine out. Is the rust on the inside, outside under or over the trim?

    Ta.

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    I'll get a pic matey when the rain stops /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burningmad.gif

    Hard to say whether it's coming from the inside or the outside as there are bubbles all the way along on the bottom of the door.

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    Okay thanks man.

    I thought you'd be able to see as you've got ya door panels off at the mo.
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    Here are the pics to help show the problem /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burningmad.gif


    Drivers Door:

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    Passenger Door:

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    As you can see the drivers door is quite bad and the passenger door is going to do the same.
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    I thought you'd be able to see as you've got ya door panels off at the mo.

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    Yeah I have, but I can't see where it's coming from.
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    its from window water no real cure
    try sealing the bottom from inside with silicon
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    its from window water no real cure
    try sealing the bottom from inside with silicon

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    you cant seal the door bottoms because they have drain holes in them, seal them and youll be swimming in it soon enough
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    I've had the same problem on both doors and got Audi to pay for the repairs both times (although second time was a fight).

    I thought it was coming from the bolt which holds the door trim on, but looking at these pictures that doesn't seem to be the case.....

    Another suggestion is that water sits in the holes of the bottom trim, in to which stubs on the door-bottom lock in to - the result being that the stubs rust and then it spreads to the door.
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    So by the looks of it I'll probably end up having two new doors that will rust again? Great stuff! Not
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    Blimey, thats nasty!

    I would deffo get audi to pay for this type of damage!

    I'm gonna go check mine.......now where'd I put me torch?
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    Blimey, thats nasty!

    I would deffo get audi to pay for this type of damage!

    I'm gonna go check mine.......now where'd I put me torch?

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    Tell me about it!

    Yeah check yours and see if you have got any.
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    Just checked mine, no rust thankfully!

    I have some cross section pics of how the moulding fits to the car and I can't quite see why it would rust where it has. That area isn't the lowest part of the door (almost but not quite). Also as far as I can tell the clips are plastic. There is only one metal screw right at the front of the door, which seems fine on mine.

    I'm wondering perhaps if the guys who sprayed your trims were a little heavy handed with them on your car and scratched the paint a bit?? Or if they are a bit loose and have been rubbing at the paintwork?

    I'm sure you would have noticed this when you bought the car. Seem strange that it has suddenly appeared since.

    Just thinking around the subject of course. I could be wrong.
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    Just checked mine, no rust thankfully!

    I have some cross section pics of how the moulding fits to the car and I can't quite see why it would rust where it has. That area isn't the lowest part of the door (almost but not quite). Also as far as I can tell the clips are plastic. There is only one metal screw right at the front of the door, which seems fine on mine.

    I'm wondering perhaps if the guys who sprayed your trims were a little heavy handed with them on your car and scratched the paint a bit?? Or if they are a bit loose and have been rubbing at the paintwork?

    I'm sure you would have noticed this when you bought the car. Seem strange that it has suddenly appeared since.

    Just thinking around the subject of course. I could be wrong.

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    Drivers door had bubbles forming before I bought it, but though nothing of it.

    Passengers has started recently.

    So I don't think it's the sprayers fault. Also if other people are saying the same about theirs? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/noidea.gif
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    Ahhh, if it been there all along, then appologies.

    Must just be a water trap after all. Surprising the amount of rust bearing in mine these cars are galvanised. I have a chip on my wind thats been there all through the winter and its not even turned borwn yet (I will fix it when it get warmer honest!).

    Anyways, get yourself down to audi and demand a fix.
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    Ahhh, if it been there all along, then appologies.

    Must just be a water trap after all. Surprising the amount of rust bearing in mine these cars are galvanised. I have a chip on my wind thats been there all through the winter and its not even turned borwn yet (I will fix it when it get warmer honest!).

    Anyways, get yourself down to audi and demand a fix.

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    Been to an Audi Approved garage just waiting for the go ahead /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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    had mine on the ramp at work to do oil and filter so thought id have a good look about, i noticed my bottom edges are starting to blister so you no were im goin satday
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    had mine on the ramp at work to do oil and filter so thought id have a good look about, i noticed my bottom edges are starting to blister so you no were im goin satday

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    Sounds like a bit of a theme occuring here.

    Let me know how you get on finding an Audi Approved garage as I am having a nigtmare with it /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burningmad.gif

    Stafford haven't, Stoke haven't, Derby haven't, Crewe haven't.

    Where next LOL
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    well im still goin stoke audi on satday and i will get summet done, the warranty book states a 12year anti corrosion warranty from date of 1st registration so they aint gettin away with it.
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    well im still goin stoke audi on satday and i will get summet done, the warranty book states a 12year anti corrosion warranty from date of 1st registration so they aint gettin away with it.

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    No you won't get something done and will be wasting your time as you need an Audi Approved garage to look at it.

    I know I've already spoken to Dave their service manager.
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    But surely Audi can point you in the direction of their bodyshop?
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    But surely Audi can point you in the direction of their bodyshop?

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    Apparently not as I've found out.

    Spoke to Audi UK and they were supposed to be ringing me back, but didn't /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/swear.gif How hard can it be to tell me where a F*cking garage is?
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    well been in the motor trade hopefully i may be able get more info out of them. ill let u no either way
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    Damn, thats useless!

    My local Audi dealer (Brighton) has a large bodyshop attached to it. I would assume that they would be "approved"!!

    Also there is an approved audi garage in Worthing. Its VW, but they do audi as well as I had my front wing sprayed there.

    So thats two within 10 miles near me. I would have thought that the same would be the case for your area. Ring around some of the VW bodyshops to check them.
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    well been in the motor trade hopefully i may be able get more info out of them. ill let u no either way

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    Maybe worth you ringing them instead of having a wasted trip then?

    Let me know how you get on.


    So is it both doors?
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    Damn, thats useless!

    My local Audi dealer (Brighton) has a large bodyshop attached to it. I would assume that they would be "approved"!!

    Also there is an approved audi garage in Worthing. Its VW, but they do audi as well as I had my front wing sprayed there.

    So thats two within 10 miles near me. I would have thought that the same would be the case for your area. Ring around some of the VW bodyshops to check them.

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    Tell me about it.

    I've tried a 50 mile radius and no joy.

    Audi are going to get an ear full tomorrow about not getting back to me and about the state of the bodyshops in the Midlands.
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    Just looking and it looks like Smith Knight Fay Audi - Stockport is the only one in the area. Only a F*cking 48 mile trip one way.

    Nice one Audi.
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    to all those at who are going to try and get the doors repaired under warranty, here's a probable response you'll get from Audi UK:

    If your car is under 3 years old, hence covered under the paint warranty, you stand a good chance of getting it done

    If it it out of the 3 year warranty, Audi will argue it is a paint issue and will refuse warranty. They're official line is that water gets in behind the trim and then eventually rust forms because the paint can't withstand the constant presence of water.....

    They will argue it is not covered under the 12 year anti corrosion warranty as this only covers inside-to-out corrosion i.e. corrosion due to metal impurities.

    You will get a load of b*llocks from Audi UK - they don't care about this issue and won't admit the problem (unless their attitude has changed since december).

    You will have to fight! Send a letter to Kevin Rose - head of Audi UK stating your case.

    They will try and wriggle out of it anyway they can so be prepared....

    Alternatively email Audi Germany direct at:

    service@audi.de

    I spoke to them and they were very interested in my rust problems but they didn't get involved further as Audi UK coughed up on the repair jod. You can email them in English as there is a guy in technical who speaks excellent English!

    It depends how far you want to go with this but it seems like more and more people are having this problem and it just isn't good enough......
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    Very good points VAGMAN. Its interesting how Audi class the different types of corrosion.

    I also agree that it often helps to go straight to the "top" to get heard. This tactic has worked for me in the past.

    Good luck guys. (I think I'll be removing my trim this weekend and giving it a coating of waxoyl behind them!)
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    just had a quick look at the audi sites local
    charles audi in crewe
    links audi in macclesfield
    smith knight audi in stockport

    and they all have accident repair centre's so they should be able to carry out the work. the 1 that dosent have this is stock audi. something needs to be done as for a £20000 car wen new this just aint good enough, specially when my k-reg corsa sri on had a small patch of rust on the o/s sill and it was all original paintwork
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    just had a quick look at the audi sites local
    charles audi in crewe
    links audi in macclesfield
    smith knight audi in stockport

    and they all have accident repair centre's so they should be able to carry out the work. the 1 that dosent have this is stock audi. something needs to be done as for a £20000 car wen new this just aint good enough, specially when my k-reg corsa sri on had a small patch of rust on the o/s sill and it was all original paintwork

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    Just to add to that LC Charles in Crewe is no longer Audi approved as it was taken over recently, and links Audi Approved garage is in Buxton. So it looks like Stockport it is.

    Tell me about it is ****.
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    Cheers for that VAGMAN1. I will do what it takes to get it sorted as it's not good enough.
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    Good luck guys. (I think I'll be removing my trim this weekend and giving it a coating of waxoyl behind them!)

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    I will do the same once mine has been sorted!
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    Good luck guys. (I think I'll be removing my trim this weekend and giving it a coating of waxoyl behind them!)

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    I will do the same once mine has been sorted!

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    yeah me too. i think a group buy on wax oil may be needed wot do you think?
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    Good luck guys. (I think I'll be removing my trim this weekend and giving it a coating of waxoyl behind them!)

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    I will do the same once mine has been sorted!

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    yeah me too. i think a group buy on wax oil may be needed wot do you think?

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    Defo /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif
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