Help Please Lack of power pre-"2000RPM - Strange issue

CraigRobbo

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Hey guys.

I have a very unusual problem with my power loss.

I will try and explain the issue and what I have tried.

My car is an Audi A4 2009 B8 Tdi (CAHA engine)

So I have power loss Pre-2000RPM, the strange this is, its always below 2000RPM regardless of gear, power level, incline, decend its almost "switch-like" (to put it simply)

Pre-2000RPM you really struggle to have any sort of power at all, but its still "smooth" no missing etc its just like you are reducing power!

After 2000RPM the power hits you pretty hard and after 2000RPM there is always an abundance of power, no flat spots no issues smooth and nice.

Now, I am pretty mechnically minded so i tried all the usual stuff first, but the strange thing is, is how its always perfectly at 2000RPM.

*So First port of call was turbo and actuator - Nope these all working great!
*Vaccum leaks? nope All good and sealed.
*Power/Throttle flap? Already replaced.
*VNT? All nice and free moving and hits both end points
*Swirl flaps seem to be actuating nicely with no slop or play.
*I also attempted to adjust the VNT (marking prior so as not to lose its setting) and if I adjust I get Overboost/Underboost errors so it is set right.
*DPF? Well i thought this so I had it removed...No avail here either
*Fuel Pressure logging is all normal with requested Vs Actual
*VNT Actuator position Actual vs requested is good!(which is odd for the next bit)
When Logging the Turbo, Pre 2k The requested boost is considerably higher than actual, talking to an Audi mapper he said this is normal due to lack of spool pre 2k.
*Now The current Map I have is what the mapper calls a "smoke map" so it smokes a little more than usual when under full power, (he said it helps spool the turbo?[I don't want to get into the debate of mapping really here]) Pre 2k No smoke at all almost like the system is holding back here (but again requested vs actual pressures are right) and after 2k when it hits, there is some smoke as to be expected....
*Now, stranger again - Prior to the car having this remap there was NO smoke before or after.. (so the map is doing as it should here) but the problem remains on stock map and post remap ( I have also had 2 different people look at the map and they are happy this is NOT a map issue)

*The car DID have its emissions fix - Initially I thought this was the problem with lag(as many otthers did too) so I had the firmware(not map) reverted by an Audi speciallist...the car became more responsive (after 2k) but the lag pre-2k remained identical.

The strange thing is the turbo, actuator and vanes all working properly!(and the actual vs requested on the vanes are correct!)

So VCDS, Seems No error codes(at least non relating to this or that would be rellevant)
The issue here is I do not currently have access to VCDS.

At first I thoguth this was "normal" when I first got the car but alas no - I went in for a remap and this really pushed the power up but it made the problem "appear" worse because the power loss remained the same but now the hit at 2000rpm is even harder for when the extra power comes in.

What ever the isssue is, It cannot be somthing as simple (eg bad fuel filter[which has been changed]) that would cause issues in other parts of the rev-range or power loss else where.

The issue is too perfectly isolated.

Please HELP!!!

Thank you greatly for reading and hopfully replying!
 
Are you sure there is actually an issue here? I have an A6 with the same CAHeA engine it weighs a tonne and was quite sluggish at low rpm, in fact quite dangerous at times.

I got a Bluefin remap and it did help a lot, the power you are getting at approx 2000 rpm is right about when the turbo spins up hence the surge.
 
My Brother has the same car (be it a saloon) same engine, if we both sit side by side (bear in mind mine is remapped) in 3rd gear and go he will leave me behind
 
That makes sense as he has more torque and bhp with the remap. It really does make quite a difference especially once your on boost as the map often increases boost pressure and fuelling
 
That makes sense as he has more torque and bhp with the remap. It really does make quite a difference especially once your on boost as the map often increases boost pressure and fuelling
So from what you are saying the remapped one should be slower pre 2000 rpm?!

I thought mine being mapped would have more grunt lower end than his?!
 
Sorry I thought you said his was mapped.

That is strange then, you say you don't have access to vcds? There is a section on here to find someone near by that you can throw a few quid and get everything checked out like fuelling etc.
 
I had someone check it about 3 weeks ago and we was both scratching our heads as all readings coming back as normal, request vs actual on everything.

Only valid suggestion so far is the possibility of a broken gear int he EGR actuator
 
You could throw together a temporary egr block plate from an empty larger can and test the theory.
 
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Have you tried running with your MAF sensor unplugged? If it runs better without the MAF this is usually a sign that it's dead.
 
If you have a standard turbo charger there is zero excuse for any smoke on that car.
If a standard car is beating your mapped one obviously the map isn't doing its job.
This is all pointing to a cr@ppy map not so uncommon to be honest - flash and dash :)
Get a truly custom tune done.

You say Rail pressure and boost is good but you don't have access to vcds?
I would try many different things like loading a stock map (not for long as you have no dpf) and then capture some logs.
Adjusting the actuator on these is a bad move they are semi smart with a position sensor and if the voltage is not within range you get limp.

Are you any where near London (Heathrow) ?