Best Brakes for A3 S3 guide

Well, your 1100kg 306 experience is about as relevant as a medal in pickled onion monster munch eating isnt it.

How is the brake bias setup, what distance are the pads and what what angle are they located from the inner disc face?

They are totally incomparable.
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1200kg thank you, surprised you could not find that on Google.

Again come back once you have tried Carbotechs.

my information is based on what is available NOW
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So is RBF660 Dot 4 or not???

3 pound a bottle as i have found it for 14 pound with out trying......by a long way.....your having a laugh??

Or you could use Carbotech XP8's or 10's which are far better than Ferodo DS pads along with Motul RBF660 Fluid.
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So what happened to the friction co-efficient of the Xp10's??? Ah you kept that quite.

Cheers Mike
 
wehn the toal price of something is £14, then something else being £9 is actually a significant price difference.

No-one, not even Carbotech actually state the friction co-efficient of the XP-10s. All they say is 'over 0.6'

So are Ferodo DS3000s. However, they show actual figures, graphs, temperature ranges and technical specifications.

Again, what have you brought to this discussion that is useful, or are you now arguing because you dont feel you can back now you're so far in?
 
Dave_Bayern said:
Again, what have you brought to this discussion that is useful, or are you now arguing because you dont feel you can back now you're so far in?
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Said by the man who arguing about a product that he has not tried!

Who thinks RBF660 is Dot 5.1!

Who thinks £3 a bottle is a lot every year!

Who up until today said the Brembo GT kit with 2 piece discs where available for £800. Now £1500!!

Who is telling you what the best set up for a S3 is based on his A3 experiences!

And now all of a sudden he does not know the friction co-efficient of the XP10's but has been telling us that the DS3000 are higher!

:applaus:

Cheers Mike
 
How childish has this got?

Said the man who compared products using a TOTALLY different chassis and brake setup.

Said the man who obviously cant read as the 800 brembos and 1500 brembos were toally different setups and clearly so.

You go find the friction co-efficient, in fact, you should perhaps learn what that means before spouting off about things you know nothing about.
 
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Dave_Bayern said:
Said the man who compared products using a TOTALLY different chassis and brake setup.
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So now you think a S3 with Brembo's has a TOTALLY different chassis and brake set up compared to a A3. There was me thinking you recommending the best road set up for the S3. I am confused

Said the man who obviously cant read as the 800 brembos and 1500 brembos were toally different setups and clearly so.
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Read the link and make your own mind up people;

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?t=54980

You go find the friction co-efficient, in fact, you should perhaps learn what that means before spouting off about things you know nothing about.
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There lies the problem stop looking up Google. I am going on real life findings.

Cheers Mike

Ps, you looked up Google yet to find out what Dot RBF660 is?:laugh:
 
No, I mean you saying you have tested both Ferodo DS3000 and Carbotech on a Peugeot 306 gives you experience of it on an A3/S3.

Re-Read the post, I said STANDARD Brembos are 800, or with cheap two pieces, then this thread i said using the very BEST components, such as race pads and proper good two pieces will cost you 1500.

I am going on real life findings that so far, seem a lot more valid than yours.
 
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No, I mean you saying you have tested both Ferodo DS3000 and Carbotech on a Peugeot 306 gives you experience of it on an A3/S3.
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I have also tested them on the S3 as said!

I am going on real life findings that so far, seem a lot more valid than yours.
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:wtf:YOU HAVE NOT TRIED CARBOTECH'S

Have you Googled RBF660 yet:laugh:
 
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After reading the above, I'm happy that my car stops when I stamp on the middle peddle!
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lol!
.. off topic.. but been interesting reading through this thread. Dave **** hot info.. scib, just found something small funny how every time you come back with an aggressive argument, you both seem frustrated at each other.. love the way Scib ends every post with

Cheers Mike
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.. kinda chills it all back down at the end lol.

i could just settle this all and say ive tryed both and there both crap. But i'd be chattin a load of *****. both good pads, lets leave it at that:friends:
 
I must admit, I went to the motul website, looked at the specs and saw the wet and dry boiling point and assumed DOT5.1

scib4 - not only do you have no idea how much Brembos are worth, you appear to have very little knowledge of braking systems, so why do you insist on arguing? From this point on I'm going to ignore you via the ignore list in control panel so I wont even see your drivel posts.
 
lol @ dave. good posts mate. lots of GOOD info! nice one!:applaus:
 
Bored now - please stop so I don't have to read anymore unresolvable arguments. Good thread to start with though.
 
Dave_Bayern said:
I must admit, I went to the motul website, looked at the specs and saw the wet and dry boiling point and assumed DOT5.1

scib4 - not only do you have no idea how much Brembos are worth, you appear to have very little knowledge of braking systems, so why do you insist on arguing? From this point on I'm going to ignore you via the ignore list in control panel so I wont even see your drivel posts.
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Well since Dave has decided to throw his toys out his pram and won't be reading any of this i will ask anyone else left reading;

How can someone make the comment "mine is better than yours" when they have not tried or even know any specs about the other product?

Maybe he is ASSUMEING that Ferodo's are better just as he ASSUMED RBF660 was DOT 5.1.

Now i have no idea how much Brembo's are worth having bought and sold a set.

What use is the knowledge, i know what works on road and track not what works on paper.

For Dave if he reads this found via Google:readit:;

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/brake.htm

Cheers Mike:)

Ps, i have not chose to ignore Dave as he certainly knows his stuff about products that he has tried and tested:racer:
 
I think this is a good thread too! But I'm still undecided on something will these look good on my S3??

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Was thinking about putting a set of these on too, think they might set the discs of nicely...

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What do you guys think!!:lmfao:




Sorry just trying to lighten it up a bit in here!!
 
I like them wheels !! got low profiles too !!
I think if you are going to buy them Budgy,
yourv'e got to get em sprayed Gold....:puke2:
 
Best pads i've used so far have been yellow stuff. Great from cold, and even when braking from the wrong side of 150, there was NO fade and even with much braking immediately after they just worked and worked...no fuss. This is with Porsche calipers an not single piston sliding calipers, but still. Very good pads compared to a few i've tried.
 
biggest thread dig known to mankind but having read this i was going to pull the trigger on the ds3000s as i'm planning a couple of track days in the near future in my [essentially] stock S3, but then read they weren't recommended for the road? I am also moving to germany in June and will at some point have the car with me, as well as living close to the Hockenheimring and the Nurburgring - so the car is going to do some time on track.
Doing the rears as the rotors are scored, got EBC premiums for the rear (mixed reviews but for £17 i didn't think i could go wrong), and i want to stick something better up front as these (OE equivalent Mintex) are cack once they've got some heat in them.

The car is still predominantly a road car, but a little brake squeal at low speeds i can definitely handle.. not at the sort of age when the stiff suspension bothers me so neither should the brake squeal in the name of performance :)
What would I be better off with?
Cheers and apologies in advance for awakening the thread, figured Dave and a few of you guys who've had experience of them were the best to ask :)

Sam
 
If you're going to be using the car on track at all, i'd definitely recommend the DS3000's Sam.

Anything less in an S3 with stock brakes just will not be enough for track use.

Ideally, it's preferable to change the stock 312mm brakes altogether, but if that's not an option right now then ds3000 for sure!
 
Cheers Prawn :salute:
Have ordered the DS3000s off ebay, £185 inc. postage, seem ok? I did look and couldn't find them any cheaper elsewhere. Pretty excited to get these on though, i know i won't regret it!

Upgrading the calipers/rotors is off the cards atm, (I'm a student after all :p ), but will see how these perform! Once i start looking more seriously at a tune, and a sports cat is on the cards for the future, bigger brakes will probably be needed! I know the Brembo gt juniors are a popular choice, but have heard that they only offer a bit of an advantage over stock?

I think if i were to upgrade I'd want to get something i wouldn't feel the need to have to upgrade from again if you know what i mean.

Cheers again

Sam
 
The 323mm brembo 4 pots are an absolutely fantastic upgrade, and with ds3000 pads they'll be perfect for 99% of people for any kind of a use.

If you want to go beyond that, then there really is no middle ground worth bothering with. You'd be looking at ~£2k for an AP setup to see any appreciable gain over an Lcr setup.
 
Reading through this thread and hearing the Brembo kit is considerably heavier due to the standard 323mm discs. Seems the Brembo calipers (LCR?) are approximately not far off the weight of the standard calipers. So how about using the Porsche Boxster calipers on standard 312mm discs?
 
vala said:
Reading through this thread and hearing the Brembo kit is considerably heavier due to the standard 323mm discs. Seems the Brembo calipers (LCR?) are approximately not far off the weight of the standard calipers. So how about using the Porsche Boxster calipers on standard 312mm discs?
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I disagree, the Brembo/LCR calipers with carriers attached are much lighter than the standard caliper and carriers, but I don't have proof of this, it could be a placebo effect. The 323mm discs are heavy though, around 20lb's for just one slightly used disc. The Badger5 330mm 2 piece upgrade is around 15lb's each, so 5lb's or 2kg lighter per side over the solid 323s.
 
jojo - cheers for the reply. I'll have a search around and see if I can bring up some weights for various items and hopefully add them to this thread. Would be handy to have this info to accompany what has already previously been said.
 
Not sure on the weights. But the 323mm Lcr fronts are really great.

Porsche boxster fronts on 312's are a bit the worst 4 pot option available apart from Porsche rears.
 
Well, I just got a LUK Schaffer Black XD Brake Kit from crossdrilledrotors.ca for my S5 2011. The brakes are pretty good, got them with Carbon Metallic pads, the brakes make no dust, brake very easily, and give a really cool look. Call them up they'll give you a nice discount if you get a full kit ;)
 
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