Here http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/audi/1...ssue-voluntary-retrofit-for-v6-and-v8-diesels is some information on a possible software 'fix' for the 3.0l V6 diesel engine...
V6 Diesel Software Fix....
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Interesting that Audi, VW, Porsche and Mercedes have announced these fixes, the cynics will say it may be connected with the following,
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/german-car-industry-under-eu-cartel-investigation
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/german-car-industry-under-eu-cartel-investigation
From what I understand it is to beat the up and coming emissions ban on certain diesels in german cities http://www.autoblog.com/2017/07/21/automakers-agree-to-clean-up-diesels-to-avoid-ban-in-german-citi/
RaZ A4
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What you need is a big sound system not emission kit on you new car sir....
http://www.greencarreports.com/news...ion-gear-or-profitable-high-end-audio-systems
http://www.greencarreports.com/news...ion-gear-or-profitable-high-end-audio-systems
Well owners can only hope, however I think that this update is different from the VAG one as it applies to the v6 and v8, not the 1.6 that the may have had issues with that particular fix https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...skoda-seat-emissions-fix-left-car-undriveable 0.02% were affected after the fix was applied...
Hope so, although the problems have manifested in more than just 1.6 TDI's. Some sites have advised not to take fix offer until more is known of the issues.
I guess any sort of software fix at the moment may give cause for concern, warranted or not.
I guess any sort of software fix at the moment may give cause for concern, warranted or not.
Everyone's on the bandwagon everytime vag and emissions are mentioned, to me it was no big deal in the first place anyway as all manufacturers 'fix' their mpg and emission figures in some way...
As far as I understand it the engine in your car meets the emissions targets for the UK and for europe, the software 'fix' is to take it further...
If this isn't going to save me any money and the car already drives fine, then why would I go to the hassle of having it done? I.e. it's not going to drop me down a tax band or anything like that, so apart from feeling good that I'd done a tiny bit for the environment (which will probably be offset by the fuel used to get to the dealership and back) it seems utterly pointless.
I'm with you on this, in at the dealer today, they didn't know a lot about it so told them not to bother until they know the full facts, service is due in 4k miles so will probably wait until then. I did though say I didn't want anything done that could impact the performance and mpg I currently get as it's actually pretty darn good, so not happy if Audi go and ruin it by doing this!
The thing also is how will they know your car has had the fix or not when you drive into a restricted city area?
I'd suggest with the existing ANPR technology they already use for charging they could do this if they wanted to, but perhaps unlikely unless VAG are mandated by EU/UK to fix all the cars (or even buy them back as in the US). That seems unlikely and we will probably just get a voluntary recall system.
I found one article (https://www.carthrottle.com/post/audi-has-recalled-850000-v6-and-v8-diesels-over-dubious-emissions/) that stateded it was a recall to reduce NOx emissions in heavy traffic conditions and low engine speed. If that is the case then it could be relevant to upcoming London ULEZ (which requires EU6). Also it appeared to be a fix for both EU6 ands EU5 engines which was I think different to the original 2.0 TDI recall (EU5 only?).
But if your car has had the fix they will not know this from the number plate unless they have access to what servicing/ repair work has been carried out on the vehicle, which is very unlikely. Thus they will not know anything about your car when entering a area that has lower emission standards.
Unless, as it is mandatory of course which the article you've linked too does suggest this but goes further that the other reports we've seen as they all state voluntary..
Unless, as it is mandatory of course which the article you've linked too does suggest this but goes further that the other reports we've seen as they all state voluntary..
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VAG could be requested to supply DVLA with VIN numbers of cars that had not been fixed. Reg number to VIN would be possible using access to the DVLA records which is probably already in the congestion charge type systems.
Hypothetical and unlikely as I expect it will just be voluntary, but technically possible.
In passing I'll mention the DVSA recall site - https://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/default.asp?tx - probably not relevant to emissions recalls but a useful site (and shows the tie in between manufacturers and government).
Hypothetical and unlikely as I expect it will just be voluntary, but technically possible.
In passing I'll mention the DVSA recall site - https://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/default.asp?tx - probably not relevant to emissions recalls but a useful site (and shows the tie in between manufacturers and government).
I think the sharing of vin numbers to car registrations to a private company adminstering this is definately a thing that could be open to abuse and I hope that never happens. I would have thought that all they do is currently is to relate the registration number to the official vehicle's emissions, not the actual vin because that would then require other countries to also release the vin, a minefield and I can't see that happening. However, whatever happens, until Audi officially confirm this all the media reports appear to be speculative..
