how much movement on dealer 2nd hand price ,please read .

If you are unsure, pull out of this 'deal', as there are plenty of other 2nd hand A3 1.4 tfsi's for sale.

Impossible to say whether that price is reasonable without all the details of the car. Hold old? How many miles? What spec? Also the 1.4TFSI could be one of three different engines. As the RRP on the 1.4TFSI 150PS S-Tronic is only £1k more than you were quoted for a used one, it must have a seriously good spec to be worth what they're asking.

i would try CAP online valuation as they let you add spec so the quote reflects options etc. This will give an idea for the margin the dealer is making. It sounds like it's not exactly what you are looking for so I would play on that when you see the car as that could be a bargaining chip. At the end of the day you have to be happy with the deal.

Regardless of spec £200 isn't much.

Have you looked on broker websites such as car wow and orange wheels at brand new? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/advice/new-vs-used/

Drive the deal showing a price of £24094.51 assuming "free" paint. For a new one.

Doesnt look a great price for a used model. Then again people will always pay more to have it now rather than wait.

I'm not surprised they steamrollered the figures and paperwork through. That's their ideal way of operating - them in control. Just make sure you take things at your pace; it's your money you're spending and nobody can force you to agree to anything! I spent a whole day negotiating my first A3 in 2010 and by the end of that day they knew I wasn't going to sign anything until the deal was right. When I bought my next A3 this year the stage was set for the negotiations and so they didn't try to hurry me into anything. You have to let them see that you are quite prepared to walk away if you are not getting what you want. I hope you'll get a good deal.

I'm paying 24k for a brand new one with S Tronic and the newer 150PS engine and a few extras, the list price was over 28k.

I looked at used before placing my order and after looking at the discounts on carwow I realised I could get a better specced new car for nearly the same price as used.

You could still part-ex it, even when taking a deal from Carwow.

Can you not sell your current car back to the dealer you bought it from?

Sounds like a very poor deal to me. I'd look at the car and walk away. No way would I have paid them a deposit just to look at it. There are plenty of dealers about visit another few.
The spec is ok but hardly has many options on it, be careful I think they are doing a number on you and taking advantage.

If your not too switched on when negotiating then take some one with you that can provide a steadying influence and advise.

Probably consider a new one, there are stock A3's at some dealers. You could probably get a new one for the same price.

I agree about considering new. When I looked earlier this year it seemed to me that you pay more or less the same for a used car with a couple of thousand miles, that has been driven rather hard as a demo and is not EXACTLY what you want.
Particularly as you have a almost new car, I would take some time to decide exactly what you would like and accept that you have to wait for it.
And I can't believe they asked you for £500 just to view it. I would be tempted to walk away from there anyway.

Newcastle Audi offered me a brand new 1.4 tfsi cod s line for £22998 with metallic paint in March this year. The demonstrator I drove had 5000 miles on it and was up for £25500, and someone bought it two days later Definitely worthwhile enquiring on a new one. Not to mention the finance on new was 6% compared to over 11% on used. No brainer.....

Always be prepared to walk if you're not happy. When I purchased my A3 saloon it was on at X amount and they wouldn't move hardly any on it. So I just waited, quite happy to let it go if that so happened, and within a week they'd knocked £500 off the list price. Then another week and another couple of hundred. When I went in I got a few bits thrown in (free first service is always a good one because it doesn't cost them a great deal but it saves you a fair bit, especially on variable service), plus haggled it down a few hundred quid more. The key is to not let them know you want the car - at the end of the day the salesman is not there to "find the right car for you" - he's there to make as much profit as he can from you, and in turn for himself by virtue of commission on that profit (most salesmen get a %'age of the profit the dealership makes on a car.). If they know you're likely to buy it anyway and are just haggling to get it as cheap as possible then why would they lose money out of their own pocket? Make it clear that you are not happy with the price and that you're willing to look elsewhere. Most importantly, do your homework - find out what you can get it for on drivethedeal if new, look at (and print off) similar spec vehicles from other dealerships (and even things like autotrader) - and go prepared. Know how much you can get GAP insurance for elsewhere. Know how much that "paint protection" is really worth. Check what finance deals you can get elsewhere (they wanted 12% APR on mine until I got offered 9% from my bank, in which case they said they would match it). Don't be fooled by the "I'll show you my spreadsheet so you can see I've no profit left in it" or "I shouldn't tell you this but..." - that's absolute and complete utter rubbish.

My fiance is looking to get a new car and yesterday we went into a dealership (not Audi but a main dealership) and were asking about a new car. I let her do the talking initially, and just stood hanging around. Sensing an easy/weak target (woman who doesn't know much bout cars), the salesperson said "we have the XXX contribution to the price of the new car which is only valid this month so you have to purchase within a few days if you want to get that" and "if you don't order it now the prices are going to go up" etc etc... Sensing some bullying goines on, I told him that I expected reasonable negotiation on the price regardless of whether that deal was on or not, to which he (quite aggressively) said there is no discount on their new cars whatsoever other than that (although it took me asking the same thing three times for him to say that outright, rather than trying to avoid my question with some squirmy answer) and got quite arrogant about it. So I politely said thank-you and walked out. I'll spend our 20 grand elsewhere.

If only i'd known, you could've had mine Audi made a few quid off me on that one.

Glacier A3 hatch 1.4 COD with sd nav and comfort bought new for £25500 last November. Sold back to Audi in August for £19000 when i ordered my S3 saloon. They put it up for £23000 and it was gone in a few days. I queried this with my sales guy, he said that by the time they do prep and checks etc they add about £2000 plus deposit contribution on used meant they were making very little on the sale.

Defo best looking at new when the deals are so much better.

wooder said:

Hi
im looking at buying an A3 1.4 tfsi s line . I went to my local audi dealer yesterday to look for a white a3 unfortunately they did not have what I wanted in stock so they showed me a black one that had the spec I was after .The problem is it was not there at that time and they said they would have it this week but would require a £500 subject to view deposit (so no one else could buy) that was refundable if I didn't like it .Does this sound the normal procedure ??
Anyway we sorted out figures / px etc if the car was to my liking . But now ive had time to think about it im wondering if I should of pushed harder on getting more off the screen price . The A3 was up for £24,230 and they knocked off £200 and said they could not take off anymore due to upgrades on the car and there was nothing left to barter with . Im starting to think they have been a bit stingy .What do you guys think ??
I did pay the refundable £500 and im viewing later in the week . Would it be to late to quibble the price as we have agreed figures on the deal and they printed out all the papers ? ....................everything just steam rolled when I was there .

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I would use Carfile.net or Drivethedeal to see what kind of offer you would get on a new one. I found it cheaper to buy new then used.

So did you end up leaving this one alone, and finding something bettter?