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Hey all,

I'll start a thread soon detailing the progress of my car when I get some pics taken but for the time being I have a question about wheel arches.

I've put my 2006 sportback on 18's with 225/40/18 tyres, and lowered the whole car 40mm allround on FK Street coilovers. The rears look's absolutely mint, and sit quite low. But on the rears, I do get the tyres rubbing when going over speed humps, or if I have a full loaded boot any largish dips in the road it'll scuff for a breif second.

I think it's hitting the inner arch lining, is there much that can be done to help get around this? Without spending a fortune.


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Ben
 
i would try removing both sides, it may help. I've just been told i could try smaller tyres i was thinking 215/35x18 to try on mine or you could try raising its slightly.

you have pics?
 
Jambo26 said:
i would try removing both sides, it may help. I've just been told i could try smaller tyres i was thinking 215/35x18 to try on mine or you could try raising its slightly.

you have pics?
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Sure, here's a pic, as it normally is without anyone/thing in the car. It looks like the side of the tyres also rub against the screw thats attached the rear bumper slightly.

I would rather not change the tyres as these are brand new.

Perhaps I could get the arches rolled? And the lining cut out/removed? Or raised?

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Normally on my own in the car general driving is ok, gotta be careful over speed humps however.

Can you get inserts that go inbetween the springs to help stiffing them on compression? Like progression springs?
 
im in the same boat as you, mines sitting around the same height but i usually have me, partner and 18 week old baby boy, only catch when i go to fast over a speed bump or bump in the road. i would like it lower when you seen most peoples when there just about sitting on the tyres. but i still need to keep it practical for a daily swell.

Not sure if it will fit your car but you could try the RS3 rear bumper hanger brackets. basically removes the screw and mounting to further up into the wheel arch.
 
Scarily its the same here, me, wife and 11month old! It's pretty much the same scenario too, most everyday driving is ok but bumps/dips can cause it to scrape slightly. If the boot is loaded up or a 4th person is in the rear then its much more noticeable. The rear bumper brackets sound like a good idea though.

I need to take the car to my local garage to get it re-tracked and the fronts lowered slightly (as they're adjustable coilovers) so will see what they think.

I would think others who have their cars slammed etc are either running a much shallower offset (mine's ET45 which is the standard fitting) and probably have their arches internals modded.
 
An alternative for the rear is running a little more negative camber.
 
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Jambo26 said:
silly question but how?
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If you have someone with a decent laser tracking and alignment rig they can easily do this for you.

Not extreme but enough to help the wheel clear the arches.
I run a near track setup on mine with 3 degrees of negative and it enabled 245x40x18 tyres to clear the rears.

That's probably a bit much for most as it will feel a bit fidgety.
 
ok cool. i need to get it 4 wheel aligned was going to go to awesome gti.

can they set this up? rather than buying new tyres just yet

thanks Alex
 
Jambo26 said:
ok cool. i need to get it 4 wheel aligned was going to go to awesome gti.

can they set this up? rather than buying new tyres just yet

thanks Alex
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Assuming they have 4 wheel alignment,then they should be able to.

Be aware though that this is more aimed at handling and traction than getting a set of wheels to fit without too much rubbing,so it may not feel as planted to you if you do this.
 
Hmmm that might be an option, certainly agree It's not a fix to shoehorn wheels to fit but it might be enough to stop the wheels rubbing the bumper screws, then I can look at options with altering the inner lining. Cheers Alex. I gotta get mine aligned anyway so will ask them about this.
 
i have standard wheels with 12mm spacers, it should be very slight i would say
 
Mines lower than this with 225 tyres et45 alloys. I had the same issue even with the screws out, all i did was cut abit of the plastic liner out where it sticks out from the body. Spot on now!
 
benjibarnicals said:
Hmmm that might be an option, certainly agree It's not a fix to shoehorn wheels to fit but it might be enough to stop the wheels rubbing the bumper screws, then I can look at options with altering the inner lining. Cheers Alex. I gotta get mine aligned anyway so will ask them about this.
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The simplest solution without changing geometry is to remove the arch liner screws.
 
jaye2992 said:
Mines lower than this with 225 tyres et45 alloys. I had the same issue even with the screws out, all i did was cut abit of the plastic liner out where it sticks out from the body. Spot on now!
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Probably hard to see now lol but what bits did you remove? Did you find the tyre edge rubbing on the bumper joiner screws. I think if I could get a little neg camber, and remove some of the lining it'll be ok, well, enough to live with.

The suspension has only just been put on so it'll drop a little more as it settles in.
 
remove the screws and it'll be fine, my arch is all but sat on the tyre and it only rubs slightly on bumps.

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its not practical for having people in the back but its more of an excuse not to have them there :idea::thumbs up:
 
smurfworth said:
remove the screws and it'll be fine, my arch is all but sat on the tyre and it only rubs slightly on bumps.

its not practical for having people in the back but its more of an excuse not to have them there :idea::thumbs up:
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Rear seats are coming out of mine,which will solve that issue! :rock:
 
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benjibarnicals said:
Haha tell that to the wife! lol
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not having one simplifies that haha

i have seen someone take a cutting disk on a grinder to the bit where the screw is on the rear bumper to cut off where the screw sits. it sticks out a few mm and causes rubbing.

mine was fine when i also had negative camber too, but since putting the tracking and camber back to where it should be its introduced rubbing.
 
benjibarnicals said:
How much neg camber did you have on it?
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Mine runs -3degrees on the rear and -2.5degrees at the front which is probably a degree or so too much for most purposes but everything fits and the cornering is improved.
 
Just gave the garage a ring and they said it\s possible my car doesn't have Camber adjustment built into the rear? Is anyone able to confirm that? I thought it was fairly standard for all suspensions etc...
 
I know for a fact that it does have camber adjustment as I have had 2.5 degrees -VE put on mine. Removing the arch liner screw as mentioned before will make a big difference, the next step would then be smaller tyres. I'm running 225/40r18 on a 9.5j et42 on mine with it lowered 75mm on coilovers, doesn't even rub with 3 people in the back. It's all about offset and tyre dimensions to get things to fit.
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I'm loving the brown two tone paint there!

Thanks for the heads up, I'll pass this info on to the garage. I'm running 225/40/18 tyres on 8j at the mo so hopefully these will be ok, and the small little fixes as mentioned above will help. Will keep you guys updated.
 
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